Actually, as I have pointed out, but you have apparently ignored, yes, he did heal that fast at points in previous films, and in X3. His hand scars, for instance, heal almost INSTANTLY in all four films.
But those are minor scars, there is a big difference between that and half the majority of the front portion of your body blow away, and I have watched all of these movies countless times and he never heals as fast as at the end of X3, never.
And watch how fast he heals after getting hit in the head in the Danger Room in X3.
The movie is on telly right now, and no, he doesnt heal instantly like at the end of X3, there is a small delay, which coincides with the previous movies.
I just went through X-MEN and X2 and watched his healing scenes yesterday. He heals slower when he's groggy or unconscious, but otherwise, his healing rate, while amped up a bit at the end of X3, is pretty consistent with previous films with a reasonable variance.
The fact that you admit it is 'amped up a bit' simply proves my point. The rest of X3 is pretty consistant with his healing factor, I will readily admit that, but the end scene, na, just isnt consistent at all.
Not going to go with this elementary school logic.
Their previous films and what they've done after X3 have no actual bearing on X3 as an individual work.
IMO it does, a poor writer is a poor writer, and nothing they have done, including, in fact i'd go so far as too say especially X3, proves this.
You're not judging what you've been presented on the screen at all, because you're clearly ignoring the sizeable difference in intensity between Dark Phoenix's attacks on Logan...and her attacks on everything else.
I've gone into detail about why I believe what I believe, while your arguments against my (and others now) reasoning for why Logan isn't just BLOWN AWAY in that scene amounts to something along the lines of "Nuh uh!"
Thats a bit of a childish statement IMO, I have explained why I believe she isnt holding back and said the same thing countless times, but every time, you have just tried to force me into thinking what YOU think. It ISNT going to happen get over it, you see one thing, I see something completely different.
Your excuse is that we arent judging the movie properly because we dislike it? Thats ridiculous and arrogant in and of itself, there are plenty of movies I dislike, but, like X3, I always point out what they did well in my reviews of them. But go ahead, believe we cant put logic together because we dislike a movie, I personally think thats absolutely ridiculous.
Fair enough. Don't look for it. Don't believe/buy it. Don't enjoy the element that is in the movie, and was clearly meant to be in the movie.
Obviously it wasnt clearly meant to be in the movie, as I pointed out but you chose to ignore again, I know people who liked the movie who see no conflict in Pheonix in this scene, but you'll probably ignore this again.
She asks because he's risking his life, period. Not because he's risking his life against all she has. She is not going at him with all she has. That is a silly statement on so many levels. We've SEEN what she's capable of, not only earlier in the film, but at the SAME TIME she's attacking Wolverine, and what she's throwing at him is barely a FRACTION of that power potential.
We have seen what she was capable of, and never in the movie was it shown, or even suggested, that she could wreak havoc on a whole area while not effecting one little tiny portion of it, look at the house scene, she is focused solely on Xavier in that scene, yet everything else in the immediate vicinity is effected, are you asking do believe she suddenly learned this a few days after the house scene?
EDIT: Just want to add after watching the scene again that you physically see power coming FROM HER in the scene as well and towards Logan, this is CLEARLY shown in the scene so I very much doubt she isnt going full tilt at Logan.
I mean, I get that you don't like it, and don't see conflict and whatnot, but I really don't see how you can be in denial about this very simple and rather clear visual element of the film (her power levels). I mean, you really think that despite the fact that she can blow buildings to pieces in seconds, that "trying her damdnest" is blowing a few inches of skin of Logan a couple of times?
And just because a lot of people didn't bother to assess the scene logically doesn't mean it doesn't have logical components. The "legions" of fans who hate X3 on principle don't impress me. People who discuss things in depth, with some semblance of logic impress me.
As if we havent gone into this in depth enough, I have explained to you what I see in the movie, the only evidence we have is what the moie presents us, and sorry, I see no conflict, I see a DP pissed off because she cant blow him away despite trying her hardest, and ill say it again for the 50th time, you see her visibly straining to blow him away at one point, funnily enough just before she comes closest to doing so, thats all the evidence I need to make my point, but again, you'll just ignore it.
I'm sorry (see, I can do that too, what are we apologizing for?), but my explanation of what a Deux Ex Machina is, and my assessment that his powers are not one since they've been there from the beginning and didn't just suddenly appear, and me saying what I think I see in her performance reeks of excuses?
What am I excusing, exactly?
How is me telling you what I think I see an "excuse" for anything in context?
How would an "excuse" even fit the context of the part you quoted me saying?
Do you know what an excuse is, and the context such a concept is used in?
Yes, throwing out childish insults like this is really going to help your argument, but keep it up, as you just seem more and more like a spoilt person who is upset because people dont like a movie you do.
