The Amazing Spider-Man Should Spidey-3 be retconned?

[SpeterMan3]

Every single Spider-Man(movies) fan.

Or at least every Spidey fan that has replied to any of my posts.

They think the movies are a Godsend and nothing is wrong with them.

If that's true...
:facepalm



If it's not...
facepalm
I'm pretty sure everybody can agree that SM3 was the most flawed of all of the 3. Hopefully...

 

[webhead731]

It's the most flawed but it's damn good. I'm watching it now.

 

[Papa Burgundy]

Every single Spider-Man(movies) fan.

Or at least every Spidey fan that has replied to any of my posts.

They think the movies are a Godsend and nothing is wrong with them.

people say theres nothing wrong with spider-man 3?!?!

i know people love spider-man 2. BUT YOU SAID 3

 

[Papa Burgundy]

If that's true...
:facepalm



If it's not...
facepalm
I'm pretty sure everybody can agree that SM3 was the most flawed of all of the 3. Hopefully...

yes it sucked badly. i went to a freakin midnight showing of that crap too...

 

[The Lizard]

Yes -- retcon that sucker.

Flint Marko did NOT kill Uncle Ben.

 

[LightningFlash]

It's the most flawed but it's damn good. I'm watching it now.

Maybe I'm just way too cynical, but I'm not a fan of anything that's flawed.

People should strive for perfection: movies(like Se7en), music(like Buck 65), and television(like Supernatural).

But, no, Spider-Man 3 should not be retconned; let's see if Sam Raimi can brush the dirt off his knees and make a much better Spider-Man 4.

And then in ten or so years, when Spider-Man gets rebooted, maybe Uncle Ben's murder will have its justice....and that sounds mean in a way, haha.

 

[The Joker]

Maybe I'm just way too cynical, but I'm not a fan of anything that's flawed.

LOL! Your movie viewing must be severely limited then!

 

[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

LOL! Your movie viewing must be severely limited then!

Indeed.

 

[webhead731]

Uncle Ben's murder was done justice. The message stayed.

Stop making it sound like they had Sandman throw the guy down and shoot him coldly.

Oh wait, you do fall asleep through the movie, you wouldn't know the truth that's told at the end.

 

[LightningFlash]

LOL! Your movie viewing must be severely limited then!

It is very limited. I only have a few DVDs, haha.

I just really, really, really hate rectons.

And I hated Indiana Jones IV...not because of continuity, just because they went from the Ark and the Holy Grail to aliens.

That's why Hollywood has been going to Hell for quite a bit time.

Oh wait, you do fall asleep through the movie, you wouldn't know the truth that's told at the end.

I went on wikipedia the day after to see what I missed

But I wish I didn't have fallen asleep, because I would've booed at the end and laughed my ass off when Sandy flew.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Yes -- retcon that sucker.

Flint Marko did NOT kill Uncle Ben.

You're right, it was the gun.

 

[SpeterMan3]

You're right, it was the gun.

Nah... it was the bullet.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Nah... it was the bullet.

Or the people who made the bullet.

 

[LightningFlash]

Or...

Citizen Cope.

Or Bliss N Eso.



I wonder if people would get it...

 

[chaseter]

Or the people who made the bullet.

The people who made the people who made the bullet


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[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

You're right, it was the gun.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people, with guns...

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

Guns don't kill people, people kill people, with guns...

sounds familiar...where have i heard that before? [seriously]

 

[webhead731]

Why isn't this thread closed yet?

I might as well make a thread about how to blink, and it will be just about as useless as this one.

 

[LightningFlash]

^^ See, about time you say something about this thread.

I knew ya would.

But, there def. needs to be a thread about "Spider-Man reboot" ideas instead of a retcon thread.

Can someone make that in the Spider-Man sequels forum?

 

[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

sounds familiar...where have i heard that before? [seriously]

jonlajoe?

 

[LightningFlash]

I'm just a regular everyday normal mother-****er.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

Ok, haven't seen a thread on this topic..at least not in the hype..did some searching as well..oh well, if i missed this topic before I'm sure the mods will have their way with me.

Anyways,

Thematically and in terms of cinematic merit, Spider-Man 1 and its immediate sequel seem to fall somewhere in the good to excellent range. The only person who seems to object to this notion is Sam Raimi who has admitted that he doesn't feel like he's made a truly great Spider-Man film yet. Despite how you feel about sir Raimi's claim, it's without a doubt that Spider-Man 3's quality is not in dispute. This movie is a dissapointment in a lot of ways (speaking of course from the general consensus).

Spder-Man 3 made some seriously misguided and franchise changing continuity decisions including, but not limited to:

Uncle Ben being killed by the Sandman.

Extreme surf board Harry.

Harry amnesia.

Harry's butler knowing the truth about Norman and not telling Harry for 2-3 years..instead watching him destroy himself...seriously "wut?"

Peter physically abusing M.J.

Peter becoming an over emotional scene kid.

Peter burning half of Harry's face for no real reason other then "girl problems" and a symbiote induced hormone rage.

Eddie Brock being introduced..and killed off..in a rather anticlimatic and poorly executed fashion.

You guys get my general drift. I know this sounds an awful lot like my own opinion, but I'm honestly just trying to stick to the general consesus here.

If Raimi wants to make a truly great Spider-Man film then it might be best to retcon some of the stuff in Spider-Man 3, would it not?

How close should Raimi stick to the events caused in Spider-Man 3?

I haven't included much of my own personal views here because I don't want to create any preconceived notions before we begin the debate. Destroy my post if you want, I simply want to know what you guys feel the best route would be.

I've attached a poll to keep a tabs on things if this topic takes off.

 

[SpeterMan3]

I think there is a thread about this... I think.

 

[Reikowolf]

well what really needs to be retconned?

the only changes I see are

- harry is dead
- MJ and Peter have grown apart.

 

[Symbiote666]

Extreme surf board Harry.

Harry is dead.

Harry amnesia.

Harry is dead.

Harry's butler knowing the truth about Norman and not telling Harry for 2-3 years..instead watching him destroy himself...seriously "wut?"

Harry is dead.

Peter physically abusing M.J.

Will probably come up/has already been forgotten.

Peter becoming an over emotional scene kid.

Symbiote is gone, he cried because his best friend was about to die or he was about to lose the girl he loved. Didn't need to see it but I wouldn't show up at Harry's funeral to laugh at Peter for being sad.

Peter burning half of Harry's face for no real reason other then "girl problems" and a symbiote induced hormone rage.

Harry is dead.

Eddie Brock being introduced..and killed off..in a rather anticlimatic and poorly executed fashion

Eddie is dead.

Obviously a few bad moves were made, but there really isn't a problem. The next movie will have no Sandman, no Eddie and no Harry (and by extension, no butler) so there isn't really any chance they need to be brought up and explained all over again, especially not when they're trying to get the franchise back on track.