The Dark Knight Rises Should the Nolanverse Continue After Batman III?

Where should the Batman movies go after Batman III?

  • Continue to the story in Batman 4 with or without Nolan

  • Reboot Batman again!


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Exactly!!!


If this man feels he told his story after 3 films then move on to something else. IN 71 years this character has had dozens of interpretations all with their own level of success. Matter of fact in the 22 years I've been reading the comics that's always been the greatest appeal to the comics to me. I get to read so many different versions of Batman that all keep the principle themes intact that it's a blast.

The movie series by WB has also been reflective of that with Burton, Schumacher and Nolan all bringing their own flavor and ideas with the same characters. Would be a shame to see that end just because they decide to stick with and possibly also hinder one specific vision. New director should bring his own flavor and ideas to the table not be restricted by the creations of the previous. Now if it's with subtle and vague references like what Batman Forever did with it's predecessors it's not too bad but I rather something completely fresh.

Nolan's story is the events of these 3 films, not the events after his 3 films. It wouldn't be that hard either. Have the new trilogy set after the events of Nolan's films, starting their own arc. Just don't contradict the events of Nolan's films (ex. resurrecting Two-Face), and you can have Gotham look different, the characters played different, etc. That way people can have both a continuation of Nolan's films if they please, or if they don't like that then they can just assume that the films are part of a different universe. It's a win-win and wouldn't be that hard to pull off.
 
Exactly!!!


If this man feels he told his story after 3 films then move on to something else. IN 71 years this character has had dozens of interpretations all with their own level of success. Matter of fact in the 22 years I've been reading the comics that's always been the greatest appeal to the comics to me. I get to read so many different versions of Batman that all keep the principle themes intact that it's a blast.

The movie series by WB has also been reflective of that with Burton, Schumacher and Nolan all bringing their own flavor and ideas with the same characters. Would be a shame to see that end just because they decide to stick with and possibly also hinder one specific vision. New director should bring his own flavor and ideas to the table not be restricted by the creations of the previous. Now if it's with subtle and vague references like what Batman Forever did with it's predecessors it's not too bad but I rather something completely fresh.

I believe this post helps explain what I'm going to say.

Nolan's story is the events of these 3 films, not the events after his 3 films. It wouldn't be that hard either. Have the new trilogy set after the events of Nolan's films, starting their own arc. Just don't contradict the events of Nolan's films (ex. resurrecting Two-Face), and you can have Gotham look different, the characters played different, etc. That way people can have both a continuation of Nolan's films if they please, or if they don't like that then they can just assume that the films are part of a different universe. It's a win-win and wouldn't be that hard to pull off.

Batman Forever was sequel with a similar continuity, but a different feel to it.

I think a new vision would be good. Barring that Nolan doesn't do anything that significant that would make it difficult to continue the Batman film series (In which I doubt WB would let him do. They want the cash cow to keep going after the next one), Nolan has set up a universe that can be blown up in scope if possible.

I believe that a new director should not destroy realism, but slowly expand audiences suspension of disbelief slowly. Nolan's "realism" is based on how the world would really feel about Batman, now the next the "arc" should be used to a world with Batman, which opens up to more great stories.

Personally, I always believe that the status quo should constantly change from film to film so I would love to see a villain that can simultaneously crossfade (if that makes sense) Nolan's vision into a new vision. I don't think it should abrupt like it was from Batman Returns to Batman Forever. The first two Batman films obviously show an inexperienced Batman (I still feel like Batman wasn't fully the Batman we know in TDK), so I hope by the end of Nolan's trilogy we see the Batman everyone knows and loves.

I like Nolan, but I know there are many things a new director can improve upon, like fighting, Batman's detective skills, and maybe using more of his skills that haven't been used yet, like his tracking skills, his disguise skills, or his escape artist skills.

At the same time, like Vulcun said, don't contradict the other Batman films. Don't create continuity nightmares and push the GA away. People aren't kind to reboots.

Keep in mind that the new director could possibly use Joker, and I will admit that would be a pretty ballsy move if they did use the Joker for the 4 or 5 Batman film.
 
Please no reboot, continue the series, but you can still shift the tone. The only letdown is that Two-Face's dead and it would be ******ed to bring him back.
 
Okay, if we talk about more Batman films but with different tone, different visual style and different actors, then what's the point in keeping the continuity of the Nolanverse? It would be pointless, really, plus that's exactly how the demise of the previous franchise started out.

I say, wait a few years after this third and final Nolanverse movie, and then just move on. With brand new continuity, brand new storylines, brand new actors etc. This way we can get that precious different tone and style, we can have back the Joker, Ra's and Two-Face, and with a little luck, we can also get the more fantastical elements of the mythos.

So, yeah, I think that the Nolanverse should end after Batman 3.
 
^I'd rather not start over and get the Joker and Two-Face back. One of the advantages of loosely continuing the Nolan series is that we could see villains who haven't already appeared in two movies.
 
I'd rather not reboot either.

If the studio were to reboot the franchise again, they would almost certainly lean toward including the Joker, and like RachelDawes above, I'd much rather they tried to include some other character whom we don't always, or never, get to see in the movies, as there are a wealth of characters and villains in the Batverse.

EDIT: Saying that though, I don't think I have much faith in another other director being able to keep up with the quality though.
 
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I'd rather not reboot either.

If the studio were to reboot the franchise again, they would almost certainly lean toward including the Joker, and like RachelDawes above, I'd much rather they tried to include some other character whom we don't always, or never, get to see in the movies, as there are a wealth of characters and villains in the Batverse.

EDIT: Saying that though, I don't think I have much faith in another other director being able to keep up with the quality though.


Once Nolan jumps ship after 3, and he will, the studio is going to want to get new batman movies out as soon as possible.

Which means that, a few years down the line, after B3, they're going to hire the first guy that comes along.

And more likely than not, after the quality of Nolan's movies, it's going to be not good.
 
Once Nolan jumps ship after 3, and he will, the studio is going to want to get new batman movies out as soon as possible.

Which means that, a few years down the line, after B3, they're going to hire the first guy that comes along.

And more likely than not, after the quality of Nolan's movies, it's going to be not good.

Exactly what I was thinking. :csad:

Hopefully, it can't be any worse than Brett Ratner...
 
Well it can't get worse than Joel Schumcher.
 
I think it should continue sort of in the way that Schumacher's continued from Burton's, just with more freakin' class this time, please.

Basically what I mean by that is: Have it seem like it could be taken as a continuation, but also make it it's own thing to a certain degree.
 
Honestly im not sure on this one. Depending on how the trilogy ends im not sure how it would continue afterwards. I think thats where the past batman movies have failed. Then on the other hand you wanna see this story continue because Nolan has really just created a comic book masterpiece with how hes handled Batman that if wb gets a director maybe Jon Nolan or someone that would stay true to how Chris Nolan has done it, then yes id love to see it continue, i dont think it could be done any other way. And bring back Bale and Caine, there match perfectly on and off screen its ridiculous.
 
Didn't Bale say he'd never do a Batman without Nolan?
 
The title should either The Dark Legend, The Batman, or The Caped Crusader. I strongly feel that Batman 3 should a two-part tale, having each 3 hours long.

Nolan could choose to show the movies back to back with a release date of 2013 or 2014.

Part I: The villains of Riddler and Black Mask. Giving Dick Grayson a small role if Nolan so chooses. I actually feel that the story deems too early for him.

Part II: Nightwing and his death. The villains of Talia Al Ghul and Selina Kyle (not catwoman), and of course, Bane, with his infamous Breaking of the Bat to end the story. Possibility of Batman faking his death?

:awesome:
 
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Which means that, a few years down the line, after B3, they're going to hire the first guy that comes along.

And more likely than not, after the quality of Nolan's movies, it's going to be not good.
I sincerely hope they don't throw the franchise so easily like that; I'd think after Nolan being such a success they would know better. But I have to say I feel a little sorry for anyone who does get the job down the line, because he is going to have a huge amount of living up to do.
 
I sincerely hope they don't throw the franchise so easily like that;I'd think after Nolan being such a success they would know better. But I have to say I feel a little sorry for anyone who does get the job down the line, because he is going to have a huge amount of living up to do.


Of course they will.

Movie studios are in the business of making money. Sadly, plain and simple.

If it works out that a property makes both money and fans and critics happy, than so be it. It worked out great.

But once Nolan is done, and no one comes to them with their good ideas, they'll give it to the first schmuck that comes along so he can crank out a movie or two for as little money as possible. They're pretty much all about "throwing **** on the wall and seeing what sticks." Only once in a blue moon does what they throw on the wall turn out to be really good and really profitable.

We REALLY lucked out with Nolan and company.

We won't get that lucky again, at least not for a LONG time.
 
I think it would be big mistake (and really boring) for whoever comes after Nolan to approach BM feeling like he can't contradict anything Nolan did. One thing I would want the next franchise to contradict Nolan on, is making BM not afraid to take life. Batman shouldn't be blood-thirsty executioner like the Punisher, but as he was in his first few appearances and in the Burton films, he shouldn't hesitate to kill in self-defence, and in defence of innocent life.
 
One thing I would want the next franchise to contradict Nolan on, is making BM not afraid to take life. Batman shouldn't be blood-thirsty executioner like the Punisher, but as he was in his first few appearances and in the Burton films, he shouldn't hesitate to kill in self-defence, and in defence of innocent life.
Logistically there's no way Batman could have a working relationship with Gordon (hence no bat-signal) if he killed people.
 
I should say that I love the Nolan films and I don't mind the no-killing BM, but the "absolutely-no-killing-ever" rule is a real stretch and, outside of cartoons, not really necessary.
 
Logistically there's no way Batman could have a working relationship with Gordon (hence no bat-signal) if he killed people.
Gordon aids BM in breaking the law in all incarnations, doesn't he? Whether it's letting Bats take crime scene evidence or interrogating prisoners.
 
We won't get that lucky again, at least not for a LONG time.

Agreed. Another note, since Christopher Nolan has decided to end the story-arc with this film, that does not necessarily mean that this ends the total of Batman's story from Nolan's perspective, that there could not be another trilogy a long while down the road. Maybe, even the keeping of Nolan as director of Batman after 3, letting him direct a new trilogy of Batman 4, 5, and 6 a decade later. A final including of Bale in a 4th flick, and, then, have an older Batman for 5 and 6, played by either Harrison Ford or Tom Berenger.
 
Gordon aids BM in breaking the law in all incarnations, doesn't he? Whether it's letting Bats take crime scene evidence or interrogating prisoners.
Letting Batman do that stuff is a far cry from letting him get away with multiple homicides. Besides, the whole reason why Gordon can include Batman in the way he does by giving him evidence, etc. is that he is not seen as such a negative threat, which he would be if he started murdering.
 
Okay, if we talk about more Batman films but with different tone, different visual style and different actors, then what's the point in keeping the continuity of the Nolanverse? It would be pointless, really, plus that's exactly how the demise of the previous franchise started out.

because we do not need 1000 Batman origin movies. The tone shifts in the comics all the times... and even in movies. no problem here at all.
 
Added, a straying from the Nolan-Verse Batman would a horrendous idea. The Nolan-Verse keeps realism and stays true to the comics. In short, Batman movies should be made as this. Now, a future director taking Batman will truly have their work demanded if not following Nolan's style. If Nolan stops after 3, he can pass to another talent, using Nolan's style, making the last three movies to end the story of Batman. The First three films establish that Batman excepts his destiny. He would be established in the last trilogy as knowing that he alone is Batman, whom has accepted the enduring destiny.

:awesome:
 
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