Sequels Should there even be a Fourth movie?

[Frodo]

While I do think S3 used far too many storylines that could have used for future films, there are more stories to tell. As for villians you have the Lizard and the Vulture. For Love interests you have Gwen and Betty.

I think the issue is really one of imagination of the filmmakers . I think Raimi and Co are burnt out on the subject which is why you need a fresh pair of eyes on the francise.

That's why i'm glad they have Vanderbilt doing the writing. If a better film means a new cast and crew , so be it. If it means bringing back Raimi co then that's fine too, but there needs to be a shift IMO.

 

[Visionary]

Yes, finally, talk of THE LIZARD, because he's the next big classic villain whom should be in Spider-Man 4. And Sony needs to let WETA handle The Lizard/Spidey's visual effects this time.

I think Raimi and Co are burnt out on the subject which is why you need a fresh pair of eyes on the francise.

Every franchise goes through it, and I think Sony realizes it, and that's why Vanderbilt was called in.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Dude please, we've seen 3 movies that took the lives of father and son with the Goblin motif. There are other Spider-Man villains and stories to show and tell besides Goblins, man you people just don't like letting go. I don't want to see another pumpkin bomb for at least 10 years.

I'm not letting it go. It's my opinion. If you don't like, that's your problem. I personally want The Lizard and Kraven in the next film, then Scorpion and possibly Electro in SM5 and the HobGoblin and another villian(maybe Mysterio) in SM6. HobGoblin has always been a personal favorite villian of mine. It's not like I want him on screen tomorrow, but somewhere down the road I would.

 

[Mario_Galaxy]

No more Goblins
No more symbiotes

Use Lizard, Scorpion, or the Sinister Six. We don't need GG coming back or Carnage.

 

[Jick]

I really don't want Rhino in a movie unless he's a side villian. Mysterio wouldn't be able to hold up a movie by himself IMO. Kraven is most likely going to be in SM4 with the Lizard and Scorpion will possibly be in SM5 or SM6. Also, we actually only got 1 goblin because Harry had no Goblin features. He was basically a ninja surfboarder. So don't let his name in the credits fool you. I really wouldn't mind seeing HobGoblin in a future spidey flick.

this movies aren't just for the fans. it's for the general public, too. they're probably through with goblins. and so may be the producers. they have to change. just because Harry hadn't the name Goblin printing in the forehead doesn't mean he was less goblin. and we had enough for three movies, already.
there's a lot of other villains to be used and diversification is always good.
we could have Lizard and Kraven(ugh!) for SM4...Scorpion and Mysterio for SM5...
Electro and Vulture or Shocker and Rhino for SM6...

The Lizard is a must, we've heard Connors name in the first movie & we've gotten cameos in the second & third movie, it's time for him to become the Lizard.

that's what I used to think.
but after I thought a lot...we can't really know this...
it all depends on who Vanderbilt wants.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

this movies aren't just for the fans. it's for the general public, too. they're probably through with goblins. and so may be the producers. they have to change. just because Harry hadn't the name Goblin printing in the forehead doesn't mean he was less goblin. and we had enough for three movies, already.
there's a lot of other villains to be used and diversification is always good.
we could have Lizard and Kraven(ugh!) for SM4...Scorpion and Mysterio for SM5...
Electro and Vulture or Shocker and Rhino for SM6...

I understand that the movies aren't just for the fans, but do you know if the general public hated the Goblin strory? Maybe there are people out there that would like to see the goblin story continue or the symbiote story go on. I personally don't want Carnage in a movie, but if he is I have to deal with it. Same goes with Black Cat. I don't want her near a Spider-Man movie.

I really can't see Shocker and Rhino both in a movie IMO. I think those two villians could work as a side villians in the next three movies. Everyone has a different opinion on what they want to see or who they want in a film. The best thing everyone can do is wait for the announcement of cast/crew and villians to come.

 

[omid17]

As long as they don't bring in the Black Cat, than im cool with them making future spiey films

 

[Jick]

I understand that the movies aren't just for the fans, but do you know if the general public hated the Goblin strory? Maybe there are people out there that would like to see the goblin story continue or the symbiote story go on. I personally don't want Carnage in a movie, but if he is I have to deal with it. Same goes with Black Cat. I don't want her near a Spider-Man movie.

I really can't see Shocker and Rhino both in a movie IMO. I think those two villians could work as a side villians in the next three movies. Everyone has a different opinion on what they want to see or who they want in a film. The best thing everyone can do is wait for the announcement of cast/crew and villians to come.

man, I'm not talking about hatred. the public probably loved the goblin villains. and I did too. but we had it. it's done.
and I'd LOVE too see Carnage and Lizard for SM4...I think it's the best choice...but I probably won't get this.
and about Black Cat...I don't mind her. but they'll certainly consider her for later movies.

 

[bullets]

I would like the next film set up as part of a trilogy. hopefully with part five and six shot back to back.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

man, I'm not talking about hatred. the public probably loved the goblin villains. and I did too. but we had it. it's done.
and I'd LOVE too see Carnage and Lizard for SM4...I think it's the best choice...but I probably won't get this.
and about Black Cat...I don't mind her. but they'll certainly consider her for later movies.

We also had a symbiote story, but that's not stopping you from having Carnage in SM4.

 

[bullets]

I would like the next film set up as part of a trilogy. hopefully with part five and six shot back to back.



my hopes for villians would be
lizard and kraven in four and the sinister six in five and six.
electro, hobgoblin, vulture, mysterio , scorpion, and rhino.

im not sure what they should do with the symbiote storyline and sandman.

having Black cat would make everyone think of catwoman.

 

[MrSmith1114]

There should be a fourth Spider-Man film.

There are years and years of Spider-Man comic books to draw from.

Not to mention that the filmmakers could come up with an original story, too.

 

[The Joker_1000]

If there is a fourth movie they must start the Lizard trilogy. It's only fair, we've been waiting for the Lizard for years now.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

If there is a fourth movie they must start the Lizard trilogy. It's only fair, we've been waiting for the Lizard for years now.

The Lizard most likely will appear in Spidey4. I mean, even Sam Raimi himself said he thinks it's time to introduce him.

 

[MrSmith1114]

If there is a fourth movie they must start the Lizard trilogy. It's only fair, we've been waiting for the Lizard for years now.

If the filmmakers don't put The Lizard in the fourth Spider-Man film, I'll be greatly disappointed.

There is no reason why he shouldn't be the next villain.

Hell, he should have been the villain in the third film. What's done is done, though.

 

[The Joker_1000]

Spider-Man 4 would be the perfect start for the Lizard as he'd be able to appear in three movies with other villains on the side like Electro.

 

[UltimateJustin]

When villians that have no real connection to each other have to share the spotlight, you're never going to get a real movie out of them. GG and Doc Ock had their movies, building up Harry doesnt take away from the fact that SM2 was all Doctor Octopus. Let the Lizard have his own movie in four, there are other things you can do in a movie to make it good then have different boombastic action sequences. I know a raptor in a labcoat seems like he cant hold his own movie but thats where DRAMA comes in. I hate villian pair ups, especially if its always going to result in a brawl with both of them at the end. Maybe if it was like Begins and one is incapacitated before the finale.

 

[The Joker_1000]

I meant that for Spider-Man 4 it could be completely the Lizard's movie villain wise & for the other two movies other villains could be introduced, with the Lizard still being the main villain.

 

[Immortalfire]

I mean, the loose ends have been more or less tied up, Peter is an adult, the best villains have been used and killed, and there arent a lot of stories to tell because there arent a lot of stories about peter to tell.

I mean, look at the last 3 movies, they arent about the title character. They're about peter, and the spider-man issues are branched off that. You cant just have a movie about lizard being out on the loose, you have to have something about peter.

Spider-Man 1 wasnt about the Spidey vs. Green Goblin, it was about peters relationship with MJ developing and becoming something more, and about Peter deciding who he is going to be as an adult, and he choses a hero.

SPider-Man 2 was about Peter deciding if being Spider-man is worth it, and what his responsibility truly is.

Spider-Man 3 was about having the maturity to forgive somebody, to put the anger behind you for the good of your loved ones.

Peter's learned everything there is to be an adult, and no more connections to villains to be metaphors for that. You can't really do the lizard without copying his relationship with Norman in the first movie, Black cat is an unclever ripoff of Catwoman, Carnage is an uninteresting re-hash of Venom with no humanity or pathos, and for the last time, Doc Ock and Venom are DEAD. Also, sandman is a good guy. He's not becoming a villain again, he wasnt evil to begin with. So sinister six can't really work without doc ock or sandman or venom.

I grew up with these movies, so definitive spider-man movie to me has Tobey Maguire and Sam Raimi, so I dont know that it could work without them.

I feel like anything without them would just be a cheap knockoff.

Doc Ock ain't dead.

 

[Visionary]

That's right, I saw him in the mall yesterday.

 

[Visionary]

I meant that for Spider-Man 4 it could be completely the Lizard's movie villain wise & for the other two movies other villains could be introduced, with the Lizard still being the main villain.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. THE LIZARD as the main villain, and Kraven or Electro (I prefer Kraven) as a secondary villain. But then again, we don't know what villains Vanderbilt wants, he may not like or want The Lizard, Kraven or Electro. He may want SM4 less of a special effect blowout, and use a villain like The Chameleon. Unless Sony/Marvel has already demanded that the main villain be The Lizard, we just don't know. Which is why I want a nice long interview with Vanderbilt to get a hint of the direction he'll be taking.

 

[Jick]

We also had a symbiote story, but that's not stopping you from having Carnage in SM4.

but it's different. and a lot. the goblin saga had 3 movies. the symbiote barely had half movie. Peter only started to wear the Black Suit after 1 hour of screentime, and he almost didn't use it. Venom was in it for like...5 min. we blinked and he disappeared. there's room for more. they could finish the symbiote story in the 4th movie with Lizard too, before starting any other storylines.

 

[Venom 1988]

but it's different. and a lot. the goblin saga had 3 movies. the symbiote barely had half movie. Peter only started to wear the Black Suit after 1 hour of screentime, and he almost didn't use it. Venom was in it for like...5 min. we blinked and he disappeared. there's room for more. they could finish the symbiote story in the 4th movie with Lizard too, before starting any other storylines.

Yea it is different, the Goblins actually deserved more than one movie. Symbiotes? Not really, once you do Venom, you really only gonna go downhill from there.

 

[shop_S-mart]

why does there have to be more than one villian in the next one isnt that what whent wrong in the batman francise to many villians and joel shumacher. thats the reason i didnt like the third spidey too many villians! i mean they had three baddies and they still tried to cram the whole gwen stacey thing in there which resulted in venom (which is alot of of peoples fav villian which i think to be a little lame) to only get like ten minutes of screen time . for the fourth movie i say concentrate on one villian (THE LIZARD!!!!!) and build a story around that about peter becoming close to him in a mentor capasity by working as his assistant and trying to help him contain the lizard without doing to much harm to conners himself that added with the indrocution of conners family and thier emotional drama over curt would make a really good movie
there is no more need to cram it full of craptastic stuff

 

[UltimateJustin]

Theres just no need for several villians or even the traditional Batman two villians. Spiderman 2 was almost a terrible movie because it was cluttered with villians until some guy who wasn't an idiot said "this movie needs to focus on just Dr. Octopus", and they made a good movie from there.

But because Spiderman 3 covered so many possible story ideas, I can see how they are going to have trouble telling a story about this guy now with only one villian. They can either retell a trying to get with MJ story which will be played or maybe they can show Peter Parker growing up and deciding not to have that stupid bike anymore. Hopefully Vanderbilt has some clean ass ideas, though, featuring one villian.