Should they make another Punisher movie?

[Project862006]

never heard of explain

 

[Colonel Kurtz]

You must not read comics. Google FrankenCastle. But be warned, you may never look at Marvel the same ever again.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

never heard of explain

here is a review of the story. it is widely regarded as one of the best Punisher stories to date.

You can leave delusions of a warm fuzzy vigilante at the doorstep when you enter the bleak narrative of Garth Ennis' Punisher Max series. Though there was a time when this black sheep was regulated to be a second tier character and general whipping boy to the supposedly superior and popular stable of iconic Marvel heroes, Garth Ennis has successfully transformed the character and persona of Frank Castle into something far more compelling and relevant than any past iterations and in doing so has managed to make a profoundly chilling statement about the nature of vigilantism and the psychology that drives it. Despite the dark and sometimes depraved nature of his exposition however, Ennis carefully navigates this subject matter with a keen sense of character development and a healthy dose of noir thematic. The end result is a comic that is strictly for adult consumption on both a visual and textual level and yet is elevated by a brutal, unflinching portrayal of an anti-hero that propels his work far beyond the perceived limitations of the medium.

The Slavers is a recent six-issue series that illustrates just how well Ennis tackles disturbing subject matter and uses the profundity of such material as a backdrop for the equally brutal response of his protagonist. During a routine sweep and execution of several mobsters (the casual manner in which Castle dispatches most of his quarry is both chilling and somehow poetic) a desperate woman enters the fray and tries to take down these same men. After The Punisher dispatches the mobsters and saves her life, he learns that the woman is an escapee from a large slaving operation that forces women into prostitution. After hearing the lady's horrific tale of woe (which includes the death of her infant child) Castle decides to end the ring in typical Punisher fashion: kill everyone responsible.

While the plot is not overtly original, the manner that Ennis unfolds the exposition is nonetheless unique. Ennis includes several interesting subplots, all of them character driven, that eventually collide into a resolution that is both satisfying and completely honest. All of these subplots, including a feud between the brutal father and son running the organization and two police officers being used to spin negative PR against Castle, manage to convey different perspectives on Castle's violent solutions even as The Punisher himself wades through a veritable ocean of blood and viscera to accomplish his goal.

The true accomplishment in this work however is the almost giddy, vicarious thrill one gleams when experiencing truly despicable people meeting a grisly but ultimately just fate at the hands of a sociopath. Garth Ennis' Punisher is as inventive as he is brutal and the manner in which he interrogates and murders the members of the slaver organization makes the work of the criminals look mild in comparison. Ennis paints Castle as the definitive counterbalance to the criminals he hunts: an unrelenting anti-crime boogeyman willing to employ any means necessary when taking down his prey. In a present day society where the victimization of innocent people has seemingly reached a point of saturation, there is something undeniably attractive and compelling about seeing bad people come to equally bad endings. Ennis seems to understand this psychological component and taps this darker nature of the reader, drawing them into Frank Castle's dark world where the carnage and suffering of criminals becomes, for lack of a better term, entertaining.

The Slavers stands as yet another testament to the continued brilliance of Ennis and his darker, more realistic exploration of the Punisher mythos. Whether you are a long time fan of the series or a newcomer looking to find a point of entry, this collection is worth a serious look.

I would also be remiss not to mention the art of Leo Fernandez. He handles the subtle undertones of character interaction and the overt, extreme violence of the subject matter equally well. His artwork is some of the finest to grace the series thus far.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm so happy we're getting another punisher film. I thought he was going to be left out for years! I hope they get Thomas Jane to come back.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Born is an amazing story, one of my favorite for sure. Year One is great in that it shows how he becomes The Punisher. its a great story too, you should check it out.
you need to watch it, great series, its pretty much the biggest reason id want Dominic as Frank.
The Slavers.

Yeah, I don't "need" to watch Prison Break. As I said, it didn't interest me then and someone's recommendation now is not going to change that. I'm quite sure you enjoyed it but I'm not interested.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Do you guys think there is some way we can send a meesage that we want TOm Jane back? I know that's a stupid question, lol, but I am curious.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

Yeah, I don't "need" to watch Prison Break. As I said, it didn't interest me then and someone's recommendation now is not going to change that. I'm quite sure you enjoyed it but I'm not interested.

then dont question my choice for Frank unless youve watched a body of work that you can properly criticize him for.

Do you guys think there is some way we can send a meesage that we want TOm Jane back? I know that's a stupid question, lol, but I am curious.

im sure theres a way and someone on here knows how to

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

im sure theres a way and someone on here knows how to

I'd love to know how, so if anybody does, please tell us.

I honestly don't want another recast. I just really want Thomas Jane back in the role. I thought Thomas jane and Ray Steveson were aweosme equally, but I wouldl ike ot see TOm Jane back in the role.

 

[The Executioner]

I say go the slavers route....have the next film be based off that...Thomas Jane wanted a Punisher film like Taxi Driver and slavers story is similar to it with a man dealing with women prostitution/pimps. That way we can see a good Punisher film finally.

 

[Colonel Kurtz]

Frank Castle works better as a character when he's an old irate broken man.

 

[ChickenScratch]

then dont question my choice for Frank unless youve watched a body of work that you can properly criticize him for.
im sure theres a way and someone on here knows how to

I didn't think that the word "really" constitutes a criticism. I guess I should apologize to you and your sensitive constitution.

 

[Colonel Kurtz]

They should adapt Born and have Frank go up river to have Jim Morrison Vietnam crazy time. They were gonna make me a Major for this, and I wasn't even in their ****in' army anymore

 

[The Executioner]

They should adapt Born and have Frank go up river to have Jim Morrison Vietnam crazy time. They were gonna make me a Major for this, and I wasn't even in their ****in' army anymore

In the story he went to fight in Vietnam?....also like if Micheal Mann direct the film.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Executioner, you a Mack Bolan fan per chance? Just noticed the user name, I'm a huge Bolan fan myself, even subscribe and get them in the mail.

 

[Colonel Kurtz]

In the story he went to fight in Vietnam?....also like if Micheal Mann direct the film.

There would be too many blue tinted scenes of people waking up if Mann directed it.

 

[Son of Coul]

I'm pretty psyched about him being back under the Marvel Studios roof, gives me hope for the other properties.

 

[Colonel Kurtz]

When Marvel gets X-men and Spider-man back, then I'll be happy. Until then...

 

[Project862006]

cool description MAX but i think the major problem with punisher is he is a hard character for people to relate to.

 

[Project862006]

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[The Executioner]

Executioner, you a Mack Bolan fan per chance? Just noticed the user name, I'm a huge Bolan fan myself, even subscribe and get them in the mail.

Naw....just thought the user name sound cool.

 

[The Executioner]

There would be too many blue tinted scenes of people waking up if Mann directed it.

Why?...he one of the best in the buisness when it comes to doing these types of films...Punisher is a crime drama character and that is Mann's specialty...look at Heat and Public Enemies for example...he be perfect for Punisher. He have a good mix of violence and story which is what a Punisher film will need in order to be successful.

 

[Son of Coul]

Naw....just thought the user name sound cool.

Same way I picked mine.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

cool description MAX but i think the major problem with punisher is he is a hard character for people to relate to.

hmmm true but not true...anyone would love to be the punisher...but they cant do it. he is kind of the manifestation of everything we wish we could do. when we see the news and a criminal goes free or someone commits a horrible crime is doesnt get the proper sentence or gets released on bail we all wish we could just kill them all.

the perfect way to make us relate is to create a villain so disgusting, so terrible and evil that anything the Punisher does is justified and makes us feel good about him doing it.

 

[Project862006]

the movies just do a bad job of showing the humanity of frank imo all we see is some dude killing bad people imo

i connected with Rorschach from Watchmen more than Frank castle in all 3 incarnations

 

[Project862006]

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