Sequels Should they reboot the X-Men films?

[Lane & Kent]

I think they should do a Batman Begins-esque reboot. I know it won't be out in 2011, but a fanboy can dream, right?





THE UNCANNY X-MEN (2011)


Professor Xaiver- Ben Kingsley







Cyclops- Chace Crawford







Jean Grey- Eliza Dushku







Wolverine- Eric Bana







Storm- Zoe Saldana







Beast- Ewan McGregor







Angel- Ryan Gosling

Colossus- David Boreanaz

Iceman- Michael Angarano

Shadowcat- Autumn Reeser

Rogue- Summer Glau

Gambit- Steven Strait

Nightcrawler- Adam Brody

I LOVE your X-cast! All but your pick for Logan, IMO Robert Knepper should be Logan.
P.S: Who your pick for Magneto & the Brotherhood?

 

[TheVelvetOnion]

Why are people always so obsessed with recasting the roles... I think the actors chosen were good.

 

[zenith16]

it's simple really velvet, a lot of people ( me included but I'm not doing it every chance I can too often) aren't happy that the movies that was supposed to be about an organization of heroes and give the characters equal or enough screen time became the over shadowing of one character (wolverine) and the fact that he his his own movie that's pretty much the same in that it all revolves around him. those are 4 movies when the one that's supposed to about the organization isn't supposed to be about that. but that's what all those movies became. their wolverine movies with the title of X-Men on them .

add that to the fact that if people want a reboot fan wise it's very possible the all the original cast members may want to move on away from that unless it's their own spin off or sequel where they'll get their screen time as we and they possible want and not do a "do over "of what they already did. probablely in the right order and so on.

But a lot of people are hell bent on trilogy's only movie wise and their a lot to tell, so they should go on as long as the spider man movies or more so.

when it comes to movies like these and those cast members may not agree to doing the whole thing over again

so people that want this reboot are looking at other options cast wise if it does happen. hopefully away from fox.

project13 I like your casting but David Boreanaz may be too old for colossus

 

[TheVelvetOnion]

Hmmm its an interesting top... But the thing is with recasting and rebooting... The movie franchise loses its validaty... things become displacent and merging things that had already been established then changed dont work as well into the flow of the franchise...

With that said, Recasting is possible but only for minor characters or major characters being portrayed in a different age bracket...I.e Younger or Older than the original character. The Minor characters with minimal screen time are easyer to change because there appearance is so short that you could just miss took that part, your brain kind of excepts its better when they are recast and given a bigger role in the future... eg Shadow Cat, Pyro.

Personally as a Fan of the x-men world, i would rather have new x-men movies featuring maybe the younger cast, and maybe no appearance from the elders, like Professor X, Cyclops, Storm, Phoenix, Wolverine, Magneto, Mystique... there time has ended. however the characters may return either recast in prequel form... First Class. Saying that Patrick Stewart could probably continue his role...

 

[zenith16]

to your initial last comment hmmm tell that to the people that made the second dune movie and all those old versions of movies and classics like Hercules and so on. Hollywood is full of ether redone or same name title movies to a degree it doesn't really matter to them.

Though it's only the classics that shouldn't be touched. it's the if it ain't broke sort of a thing.

only the guys in the video game industry actually care that much for it to be done right almost from the jump. but it also depends on what studio your working for and who you have on working on it.


And It also depends on time between them and so on. with reboots. it just depends on a lot of things. but some of those movies are done to compare which was the better one in some case's or truer to the books in others, like in this ones case.

and no as long as they had said since the last x-men movie they said that those that didn't get enough screen they make it up to the fans i had a video clip a number of them of it once but the stupid new revamp of those sites misplaced them . they had a interview with cudmore aka colossus saying that those characters that didn't get enough screen time they make it up to us fan and yet..... he was asked to spoke speak and before the last movie end the entire cast wanted their own spinoff or to do more to even stuff out but fox ugh.


so no seeing that the likely hood of it and that cyclops didn't get enough or right portrayal screen time wise it's hard to agree that "his time is done now statement". and some might also say that to jean as well.

Seeing the actress that played didn't like the portrayal as well in the end . a lot went wrong. at least they didn't wreck proffessor X. I enjoyed those part's. if they manage to keep Patrick stewart that'll be sweet. if he wants to "do that" that is .

 

[Wade_Wilson]

No reboots people, the cast is awesome, the movie was just ruined when bratt ratner came in and started killing major characters that werent supposed to die, and the movie adaptation of the phoenix was lame. They just need to fix it with the 4th, simple. And as a sidenote, prof. X isnt dead look at the end of the movie after the credits and he lives I tell you!!!

 

[zenith16]

I want a reboot cause as a whole their not x-men movies but wolverine movies. withthe X-men title pasted on. it has nothing to do with it being about x3 there was too much of one character over all in each. not eough learned on the others. sorry.

 

[javi1024]

well that can still be fixed by just continuing with X4 and focusing on the kids you barely saw in X3 (Bobby, Kitty, Peter, Warren, Rogue) plus add in some new players (Havok and Polaris). Last Stand was the final movie of a trilogy- the conflict between man and mutant, the X-Men versus Magneto, the rise and fall of the Phoenix. those have been resolved and we can now move on to tell different stories without having to rely on the familiar face- Magneto, Storm, Wolverine, Jean, etc.

 

[zenith16]

That's not gonna help with what was done with the other movies on the first team in the trilogy. I want that fixed if they're(fox) not gonna bother that's all the more reason for a reboot.

the x universe doesn't revolve around wolverine and even that was said from people like Roeper. he wanted to learn about the other characters it was called X-men. it's about the organization. they became wolverine movies instead. and X-men placed on it in name only. this came from Roeper. bah from that show called Ebert's and Roeper. said during X2 when it came out he wanted to learn about those specific other's not the ones you just mentioned but they do need their time as well.

It's just all the more reason for a reboot now. I also remember covering some interviews on etalk and most of the other cast on x3 wanted more spot light and even said they wanted their characters to have spin off's as well. so many fans saw that and wanted that next to X 4 they wanted rogue one and so on and so on.

http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/ebertandroeper/index2.html?sec=6&subsec=x2
as to what richard Roper and Ebert's said they said they(fox )needs a mutant screen writer. that is true. ,more like someone that's able to handle large casts cause the guys doing movies only know how to do soloist heroes.

that's why I suggested the guys from the 4400 and J.M. Straczynsk of Babylon 5 fame they are able to write in that way.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=308566&page=31

also cause they did shows and more with the same themes as x-men and are able to do that style of writing where the cast gets equal enough screen time.


what i want is what was said in that freaking review and what I just mentioned and seen in that first link. I can't believe this is from guys like them who have never read the books, but they seem to know this better then the people making the damn movies at fox and I met plenty of people that find out later the the X universe was bigger then what those movies pushed and they asked me why that happened? in annoyed tones too.

then there's a problem. making it all revolve around wolverine ugh.

what they should fix is known and it seems fox doesn't care to do this so. that's why I don't want fox to do it any more.

There was always a problem of jumbled story telling line wise it was long before X3. they needed and still need a better screen writers to fix that and more spot light on characters like cyclops that was problem.

You know he wasn't what hes supposed to be. among other things and the other characters as well. there's so much off. any way i don't care to argue. I said my peace in other posts on complaints on this.

OK done with this rant.

please every one else that's just playing around with idea's, please continue.

 

[katie_girl09]

we're talking a good adaptation not just good movies. Singer's movies were terrible adaptations in which he based everything around wolverine which is actually supposed to be based on xavier. The team compliments him hence "the men of X"

Ooookay... So that's why the movies would need a reboot? Because of something as frivolous as "Wolverine got all the attention"? That's just something that you fix for the next movie. And what about all the great casting choices that they've made? Out the window?
And if you ask me, the first two movies ARE good adaptions of the comics. Adaptions are just that - adaptions! You can't expect an adaption to be exactly like the source material, otherwise it is pointless doing it in the first place.

 

[Wade_Wilson]

I totally agree with Katie_girl09, Wooo!!! X1 and 2 were good, and sure they gave a lot of the screen time to Wolverine, but hey they are making a movie for the public not just the fans.

 

[bullets]

Great casting choices is definately the way to put it. Also it's too soon for a reboot and there is alot of possibility for fox to make spinoffs from the established characters.

 

[CB Fan]

If they did a reboot I would want them to do something that doesn't seem to be so popular on this board and that's stick to the 'real situations in a fantasy world' theme. That means introducing the Shi'ar, going to the savageland and just really exploring the stuff that was way too out there for the first 4 wolverine movies.
One of the things singer and fox did wrong was they allowed alot of character's personalities to be changed (like iceman, mystique, & rogue). I want to see the characters from the books cause I know that the public wouldve loved them a lot more.
But yeah it is definately too soon for a reboot, wait five to ten years after the last spin off whatever that may be.

 

[zenith16]

Ooookay... So that's why the movies would need a reboot? Because of something as frivolous as "Wolverine got all the attention"? That's just something that you fix for the next movie. And what about all the great casting choices that they've made? Out the window?
And if you ask me, the first two movies ARE good adaptions of the comics. Adaptions are just that - adaptions! You can't expect an adaption to be exactly like the source material, otherwise it is pointless doing it in the first place.

looking at sin city, ( even though miller betrayed him self on the spirit by going with what others are saying here now and people gave him hell for doing that after he wanted his own to be what I'm sorta asking for here)


watchmen, and the fact that they redid dune with another movie cause the creator of the book hated that latter movies ending cause it conflicted with the planet nature for the series and fans hated the first movies ending as well. and lets not for get the lord of the rings was redone thing as well. among others.

I want ether for this to be a complete translation of the books minus some bad ideas from the comics. More of adapting the movies to the comics instead of the other usual away around or as close as they can possibly get by doing that . so far it hasn't been cause it's an "i don't want to" thing from them (fox).

and seeing from how the movie going public treated those movies and those movies are hits it doesn't really matter to them. a lot of those I mentioned with movie public lost it's value to me. a lot of changes formerly claimed "it's cause of the movie public" have been shown to be false. the will get it.

things have gone either way as those other films i just mentioned proved. so I know doing these movies the way I'm thinking is very possible. with right directing as I said and execution. it's very possible indeed.


. any way I didn't say an immediate reboot. but I do still think there should be one.

casting was fine. every thing else I stand by what I said in other posts prior before this thread.

i want marvel to get the rights back. if they still have the same actors and actress's an all, it's all good. But I doubt that'll be likely.

before more warped confusion of things happens from fox. bah

 

[Cyclonus]

Yes a reboot is in order. Marvel needs to get the rights back and reboot the series like what's been done with Batman. The original 5 X-MEN need to be in it - NO WOLVERINE. He is overused, I love him but c'mon, there was a X-MEN team before Wolverine showed up. I agree with having the team being around the age of being in college or senior year of highschool. See if you put the oringinal 5 in there is so much story to build on and characters to add in the sequels. Now maybe have Wolverine in a sequal but not the first movie. Have the team in there actual real X-MEN suits, not that black leather. As for a villain, maybe Juggernaut or Mr. Sinister, or the sentinels. Uncanny X-MEN First Class, I'm all for it.

 

[TEDDY]

I don't think a reboot is necessary. We had 2 awesome X-Men films. And Wolverine is decent enough.


True, despite it's good traits, X3 wasn't that great. But after watching the movie a couple of times, I noticed it set up some great possibilities for a future film. And surprisingly enough, their 2 of the biggest complaints I have about the movie when I heard it would be the final film. Allow me to explain:


- Cyclops' death: Sure, it seems Summers is dead. But the Phoenix is a mysterious force to deal with. Besides, it's a comic book movie: no body, no death. We just have Cyclops wandering arround with amnesia, not sure who he is or what happened until the newly resurrected Xavier and his X-Men find him. And of course his survival would be a crucial plot point for the sequel.

- The Cure: As Magneto proves at the end of the film, no mater how big a dosage you receive, the mutation cure is not permanent. The way I envision it, those who took the cure find their mutations comeback with a vengence! This would not only give certain characters back powers they had in the comics(Magneto's forcefield, Rogue's flight/super strength) but would also make the mutants seem more dangerous with the sudden explosion of power. From their, the movie can go just about anywhere you want: the mutant registration act, REAL sentinels, Genosha, etc.


I know that talk of X-Men: First Class has come up, but why bother? Sure, X3 was bad, but X1 and X2 were awesome. And Wolverine Orgins was decent. Besides, X3 was at least a commercial success

Instead of rebooting an already awesome franchise, why not pull a TERMINATOR* and make an awesome movie that expands on what was setup in the last horrendous film. Plus, how many Punisher films or Fantastic Four movies must you watch before you realize that reboots don't work for Marvel movies?









(*: Yes, I know Terminator Salvation isn't out yet, so there's no way I can know for sure this movie will be awesome. But come on! Have you seen the footage? Have you taken a look at the cast? Do you know who wrote this thing? HOW CAN IT NOT BE AWESOME?!? Definitley better than that turd known as TERMINATOR 3)

 

[zenith16]

I have link's and reports that shows other wise to the first sentence in your post. as for jean it's simple she has a spilt personality she struggled with her self to save scott a she threw him in the lake he's floats down stream out cold and jean is out cold from her mental power struggle with the phoenix.


Anyway from those interviews they said they left it open enough for X4 and I have put those links on this site. they said if we wanted more we'd get it. the cast was stating x4.

but fox went with the spin off stuff. and so far from what I've seen it does needs a reboot. those are four wolverine movies. nothing more. and the formula of lack of script writing by unbalance stories they put out and and being unable to hand large characters cast wise which other writers have been able to do in certain tv shows in just one episode is starting show a lot now to others. finally.



not to mentin the screwing origins of ever character they touch as they go on. it's a bit too much now. No a reboots an order now. I wanted an X4 and I was willing for first class but now ..... ohhhhhhhhhh hoho now no. it's getting worse. I want this a way from fox.

And unlike terminator which a completely different mdeium and didn't have much of story prior that wasn't screwed up on purpose by some studio ether that wanted to make money off the name only. while screwing every thing esle too. I gave it "it's chance." RRRRRebooot.

 

[CB Fan]

^ I like the Cyclops idea very nice, but wouldn't Jean know that she didn't kill cyke?
I also agree with what you said about the series those movies are nothing but wolverine movies with cameos by other x-men/villians.
The series needs a reboot but I wanna see first class first, who knows it might just surprise us all and be good.

 

[Godman]

Ooookay... So that's why the movies would need a reboot? Because of something as frivolous as "Wolverine got all the attention"? That's just something that you fix for the next movie. And what about all the great casting choices that they've made? Out the window?
And if you ask me, the first two movies ARE good adaptions of the comics. Adaptions are just that - adaptions! You can't expect an adaption to be exactly like the source material, otherwise it is pointless doing it in the first place.

No they did that for 3 movies and now four with the wolverine thing. That series is very bad. Very inconsistent.

 

[zenith16]

^ I like the Cyclops idea very nice, but wouldn't Jean know that she didn't kill cyke?
I also agree with what you said about the series those movies are nothing but wolverine movies with cameos by other x-men/villians.
The series needs a reboot but I wanna see first class first, who knows it might just surprise us all and be good.

lol I've been saying that idea For a while though, your the first one on the forum that responded. yeah I'm sure jean would know or hope in her case.

but as we all know the person that woke up back in the med room at the mansion wasn't her, but phoenix. jean went droment and from what we saw that version of phoenix didn't care for much. it's most likely didn't care for past events, but cared for who it wanted to mess with at the moment right in front of her.

so it's doable. as I said i wanted first class but i don't trust fox any more. man they went astray. whoa.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Here's something that probably won't be considered. I'll be honest however, I think it'll be better for X-men.

They should make a live-action X-men tv series. That would be an excellent way to reboot.

The X-men universe is too large to cram so many characters in films and when someone's favorite hero or villain doesn't get properly developed (such as Colossus, psylockeror poorly executed (juggernaut, Storm), or not even in the films (Omega Red, Havok) people riot in the streets.

Personally, I would have a tv show that would start without Wolverine that builds that relationships of the original 5 (plus maybe a few other x-men maybe Storm and nightcrawler). Then I would introduce Wolverine at the end of the season.

I think it would be awesome.

 

[javi1024]

after watching Wolverine, yes. i no longer have faith in Fox, Laura Donner, and anyone else handling this franchise. i want Marvel to do whatever they need to get these characters and bring them back properly after people have forgotten this series.

 

[zenith16]

Here's something that probably won't be considered. I'll be honest however, I think it'll be better for X-men.

They should make a live-action X-men tv series. That would be an excellent way to reboot.

The X-men universe is too large to cram so many characters in films and when someone's favorite hero or villain doesn't get properly developed (such as Colossus, psylockeror poorly executed (juggernaut, Storm), or not even in the films (Omega Red, Havok) people riot in the streets.

Personally, I would have a tv show that would start without Wolverine that builds that relationships of the original 5 (plus maybe a few other x-men maybe Storm and nightcrawler). Then I would introduce Wolverine at the end of the season.

I think it would be awesome.

some one mentioned that before( he was joking though he didn't like fox doing it ether) and i said no for obvious reasons, some how I think we'll get more of the same, it'll be come the wolverine show some how. As soon as it starts especially under fox's TV channels. until I hear it's under marvel's control and both JMS of Babylon 5 fame and the guy that made the 4400's control I don't want this happening. And I rather those guys do the reboot of movies as well.

Hell you know what there are alot of web si-fi series now thanks to the show santuary that the people of SG1 started


for example

Condition: Human which is being talked about alot
http://www.elecplay.com/

They can do it that way. so they don't get side lined by people like fox or have executives screw every thing with their changes to every thing that didn't need changes.

They should really do it that way.

 

[Immortalfire]

Should they reboot the X-Men films?

:facepalm

My god

 

[FVD]

I'm all for a reboot of the X-Men films also.

Actually if they want to continue X4 why don't they focus a movie fully on one of the actual saga. Apocalypse Saga? Muir Island Saga? As long as the movie doesn't focus heavily on one character (cough Wolverine) we could get a good X-Men film.

And I don't want Bryan Singer back either. Hated the costumes, hated a young Iceman, hated no Russian Colossus, hated Halle Storm F**k you Fox and your manatees.

Personally the sooner Marvel gets the rights back take some time to develop the franchise the way us fans want it to be. First Class? Make it so. I'd allow Patrick Stewart to come back and get the Original 5 in there. I think the College route would be better than teen angst too actually. Time to read the next issue. Haven't finished them yet.