The Amazing Spider-Man Should They Use The 90's Spiderman TAS Cartoon As Source Material

[saiyanaida]

Any thoughts

 

[Reikowolf]

they won't

it sets him in post-highschool

thinking spectacular spider-man / Ultimate Spider-Man

 

[saiyanaida]

at least if they use ultimate, we'll have wolverine and peter parker switch bodies

 

[Young Superman]

thinking spectacular spider-man / Ultimate Spider-Man

Agreed

 

[spider-neil]

SSM > 90 animated


by a MILE

 

[KenK]

As fun as the show was to watch as a kid, all it did was make half-assed adaptations of popular storylines from the comics. It didn't really add anything to the comic that wasn't there already.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I have never seen SSM.I am weary on new animated shows on superheros.
Warner brothers killed the DCAU so they could have dumbed down
animated batman with first The batman and nor The brave and the Bold.
No X-Men aimated show has had the quality of the 90's show although
granted I wish it would have had Shadowcat Instead of Jubilee.So Is it a
worthy adaption of Spider-man?

 

[ModestMr.Green]

For the Venom storyline, maybe.

 

[Reikowolf]

SSM > 90 animated


by a MILE

both good in their own right

they used the comics available at the time to make a really great amalgamated mythos.

Remember, Ultimate Universe didn't exist in the 90's, but they kind of did the same concept by referencing everything to neogenetics (BS term)

SSM is basically a combination of Ultimate and Movie universe anyhoo.

 

[NinjaCarm]

They should reference Spectacular Spider-Man. Just don't mess this up Sony, just don't.

 

[david icke]

As fun as the show was to watch as a kid, all it did was make half-assed adaptations of popular storylines from the comics. It didn't really add anything to the comic that wasn't there already.

Yeah, it did. It introduced the concept of the symbiote's bonding causing Spidey to get more aggresive and go bad. In the comics the only detrimental effects was it would take him out sleepslinging when he was supposed to get getting rest, which made him tired and listless all the time, and tried to make the bonding permanent.

I thought it did pretty good adaptations of storylines. Of course it being a kid's cartoon they were not allowed to go all the way with some storylines. But the version they did of 'Turning Point' was great, one of the best superhero cartoon eps ever, combining two classic Osborne stories very very well.

edit: In fact I would say the confrontation at the Brooklyn Bridge with the GG in this ep was better than the one at the end of SM1.

Even though they were not allowed to use real guns, have spidey throw punches(he threw 1, against the spot), or kill off characters, they did not shy away from dealing with the emotional darkness that the books dealt with.


I can't really compare it to SSM asI've only seen 3 or 4 eps on youtube of that, but from that much watching I much prefer the 90s show.

But I don't think they will go to it for refernece so much, Raimi already did that, they'll look at the more modern cartoon if they're going to look at any toons.

If they did though, they would do well to, the character of Spidey was done very well.
One thing the films will probably always lack, which were always one of the great aspects of the books, that the 90s toon got down well, is Spidey's interior monlouges. Just the thoughts he has while he's swinging around, weighing up his problems etc.
Interior monloges can work in movies, they have mostly been avioded in superhero movies, but they worked well in that cartoon. I don't know if they could get that kind of thing to work in a Spidey movie, if they did it would be a great thing, and another thing to distinguish it from the Raimi series. The only interior monlouge I can think of that really worked in a comicbook movie is in Sin City and Rorschach's in WM, both of which were very film noir/detective type monologes, which are very traditional, so they did not step out of the box so much there.
edit: Interior monologes are a major part of superhero comics, but the reason they have been avoided is obvious, they can very easily come across as cheeseball on cheese with an extra serving of cheesey cheese dips, so I don't expect to hear any in a Spidey movie. We do lose a large part of the books there that is one of the best parts of reading them though, which is a shame.

 

[grand-I-am]

Any thoughts

YES! YES! AND YES!

I grew up watching that cartoon and imo it has the the most lasting representation of spiderman for me.

 

[grand-I-am]

SSM > 90 animated


by a MILE

You're outta your mind. SSM looks like it was made for 5 yr olds.

 

[SpeterMan3]

You're outta your mind. SSM looks like it was made for 5 yr olds.

Oh boy.

Saying that will induce a mob of hypesters to try to tell you that you need to get past that and maybe prove you wrong. Yes, I am one of them, but I'm tired.

 

[ModestMr.Green]

Spectacular Spider-Man is a great show, and I used to watch it regularly, but I still have difficulty getting over the hideous faces.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Yeah, I understand qualms about the designs, but it really doesn't matter to me (or a lot of people). I'd hate something so insignificant to the entire show get in the way of me enjoying what may be (one of) the greatest Spider-Man incarnations to date (January 14, 2010, by the way).

 

[QWoods]

Hell No Black Cat was a modern day Super Soldier......NONONONONONONO

Spectacular Spider-Man should most definetly be their source material

 

[I'm Venom]

I too prefer the 90's TAS over SSM. It's very difficult for me to grasp why so many on here are in love with SSM. I've seen it once or twice, but eh.

I believe the very first episode of the 90's TAS, "Night of the Lizard", would actually be a great idea for the first film of a rebooted franchise. I'm still not sure if I want to see Peter becoming Spider-Man again or already Spider-Man, but either way, they could use ideas from that episode and have stuff like J. Jonah Jameson offering a bonus to any photographer who can get a picture of Lizard and the character of Eddie Brock being introduced.

 

[SpeterMan3]

I too prefer the 90's TAS over SSM. It's very difficult for me to grasp why so many on here are in love with SSM. I've seen it once or twice, but eh.

I believe the very first episode of the 90's TAS, "Night of the Lizard", would actually be a great idea for the first film of a rebooted franchise. I'm still not sure if I want to see Peter becoming Spider-Man again or already Spider-Man, but either way, they could use ideas from that episode and have stuff like J. Jonah Jameson offering a bonus to any photographer who can get a picture of Lizard and the character of Eddie Brock being introduced.

That could be why...

But other than that, yeah I agree, and those are great ideas.

 

[KenK]

I have never seen SSM.I am weary on new animated shows on superheros.
Warner brothers killed the DCAU so they could have dumbed down
animated batman with first The batman and nor The brave and the Bold.
No X-Men aimated show has had the quality of the 90's show although
granted I wish it would have had Shadowcat Instead of Jubilee.So Is it a
worthy adaption of Spider-man?

That's another show that, in retrospect suffered from clumsily trying to do too much adapting from specific storylines, and cherry-picking bits of continuity for stories, only to contradict themselves in later episodes.

 

[Reikowolf]

I too prefer the 90's TAS over SSM. It's very difficult for me to grasp why so many on here are in love with SSM. I've seen it once or twice, but eh.

I believe the very first episode of the 90's TAS, "Night of the Lizard", would actually be a great idea for the first film of a rebooted franchise. I'm still not sure if I want to see Peter becoming Spider-Man again or already Spider-Man, but either way, they could use ideas from that episode and have stuff like J. Jonah Jameson offering a bonus to any photographer who can get a picture of Lizard and the character of Eddie Brock being introduced.

The story arcs build up throughout the season. The Goblin arc and Venom ones are well done because they took a lot of time in fleshing things out.

Same with Doc Ock for that matter.

The twist they did for the enforcers was really well done too

 

[marvelrobbins]

I guess I should try to watch SSM eather online or seeing If Netflix has any DVDS of It for rent.The fact i just read of Gwen Stacy being an ongoign character Is a plus for It.

 

[Mistah K88]

Not as SOURCE material (as it should ALWAYS be the comics), but maybe using bits and pieces from the 90's cartoon, SSM, and other Spidey media that works and throw out the bits that don't. For example, starting off with the Hobgoblin and making Kingpin the only REAL villian (as everyone and thier grandma in the world of crime worked for him) would not fly with me. Maybe they could use the Venom arc from 90's Spidey TAS (Eddie's string of Spidey related bad luck was done better here than in SSM), but even that would have to be altered of course. The main problem with the 90's series is that it was a product of its time...90's comics were bad (trying to be edgy), so it was forced to kinda adopt all of the stuff that was going on currently.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Most people today consider Kingpin a daredevil villian but forget he was originaly a Spider-Man villian so that never bothered me.I liked how later seasons would be more closly connected.They adapted a lot of things from the comics for the 65 episodes.

 

[saiyanaida]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4w3kgoE_Cc