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I just watched the first movie again for the first time in a while and there are a few scenes that are sort of repeated in the second movie. For example the Peter and MJ scene in the back yard, or when Peter tries climbing a very similar alley wall again, or the running and jumping on the roof tops. Or Uncle Ben in the car again.

From the trailer it looks like we will get another on the web scene. Any others you guys think would be cool. I thought the way they made the two backyard scenes sort of fit together was cool. It was a great way of reminding you of the first film but also making you realize that things were now different.
 
fallenAngel said:
I just watched the first movie again for the first time in a while and there are a few scenes that are sort of repeated in the second movie. For example the Peter and MJ scene in the back yard, or when Peter tries climbing a very similar alley wall again, or the running and jumping on the roof tops. Or Uncle Ben in the car again.

From the trailer it looks like we will get another on the web scene. Any others you guys think would be cool. I thought the way they made the two backyard scenes sort of fit together was cool. It was a great way of reminding you of the first film but also making you realize that things were now different.

Every comic book movie is repeated somewhere or another.

In the "Superman" films it's everytime he flies or uses his powers.

"Batman"- When he uses his gadgets, Batmobile or other vehicles, and reliving the night his parents were murdered.

"Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles"- Eating pizza, kicking butt, etc.

The list goes on really...
 
There should be a burning building scene that shows the suits weakness to fire.
 
You want a repeater?!!!! Here's a repeater for ya. In both Spidey 1 and 2, MJ was kidnapped by the villain, in order to bring out spider-man. Well it looks like the same God damn thing will happen in spidey 3 as well!!! Can you say: LAME!!! The poster from comic-con showed MJ in a huge black web. Spidey's? NOPE! It's VENOM's! You can tell by the thickness and structure of one single spin! And we already know that MJ will get in a cab with a surden Eddie Brock!

I so freaken H-A-T-E the fact that poor little MJ must always be kidnapped by the villain (a total damsel in distress). AND NOW IT'LL HAPPEN IN SPIDEY 3 AS WELL! This really sucks. It's such an obvious repeater! Why must it always be MJ? Couldn't it have been Gwen this time around?
 
SuperFerret said:
There should be a burning building scene that shows the suits weakness to fire.
Does the alien symbiote have a weakness for fire?? I thought its only weakness was high pitched sounds.. like the sound of a surden clock-tower-bell!
 
Naite22 said:
Does the alien symbiote have a weakness for fire?? I thought its only weakness was high pitched sounds.. like the sound of a surden clock-tower-bell!

Yep, it has a weakness to fire, which is why in the comics, when Spidey went to the FF to borrow the sonic gun, he'd also sometimes take the Human Torch with him.
 
Not at all. I'd back it up with pages from the comics but I don't have a scanner. But all you really have to do is look up any bio on Venom, it's always listed as a weakness.
 
The symbiote can't stand fire and high pitched sounds, those are it's weaknesses.
 
Well I actually would like a scene that shows the symbiote's weakness to fire but please not in a burning building, it has been done to death, maybe a gas pipe breaks during a fight and a sparkle causes and explosion and the symbiote starts to sorta scream and contort revealing peter's flesh underneath like it happened to eddie in the comics.
 
SuperFerret said:
Yep, it has a weakness to fire, which is why in the comics, when Spidey went to the FF to borrow the sonic gun, he'd also sometimes take the Human Torch with him.

OMG! I have that issue in mint condition! Its the one where Spiderman and the Human Torch are on an island fighting Venom, right? Then later Spiderman and Venom have to team up against Carnage.
 
Naite22 said:
You want a repeater?!!!! Here's a repeater for ya. In both Spidey 1 and 2, MJ was kidnapped by the villain, in order to bring out spider-man. Well it looks like the same God damn thing will happen in spidey 3 as well!!! Can you say: LAME!!! The poster from comic-con showed MJ in a huge black web. Spidey's? NOPE! It's VENOM's! You can tell by the thickness and structure of one single spin! And we already know that MJ will get in a cab with a surden Eddie Brock!

I so freaken H-A-T-E the fact that poor little MJ must always be kidnapped by the villain (a total damsel in distress). AND NOW IT'LL HAPPEN IN SPIDEY 3 AS WELL! This really sucks. It's such an obvious repeater! Why must it always be MJ? Couldn't it have been Gwen this time around?

While a bit repetative we've bared witness to this same formula for years in the comics. Just like Superman always having to save Lois, Spider-Man will always save M.J.

I do think though in movie 4 it's time for Black Cat.
 
Dark Phantom said:
OMG! I have that issue in mint condition! Its the one where Spiderman and the Human Torch are on an island fighting Venom, right? Then later Spiderman and Venom have to team up against Carnage.

Yeah, that's the one.
 
Naite22 said:
You want a repeater?!!!! Here's a repeater for ya. In both Spidey 1 and 2, MJ was kidnapped by the villain, in order to bring out spider-man. Well it looks like the same God damn thing will happen in spidey 3 as well!!! Can you say: LAME!!! The poster from comic-con showed MJ in a huge black web. Spidey's? NOPE! It's VENOM's! You can tell by the thickness and structure of one single spin! And we already know that MJ will get in a cab with a surden Eddie Brock!

I so freaken H-A-T-E the fact that poor little MJ must always be kidnapped by the villain (a total damsel in distress). AND NOW IT'LL HAPPEN IN SPIDEY 3 AS WELL! This really sucks. It's such an obvious repeater! Why must it always be MJ? Couldn't it have been Gwen this time around?

I enjoy damsel in distress. Need something to piss of the hero.
 
they repeated the burning building in spidey2 that happened in spidey1, i think its like trade mark.
 
Sometimes, althought I haven't really seen it yet in this thread, people have been annoyed at the repeated scenes in spidey1 and 2. Of course, this has been discussed at length in really old forums, but I'll get my input out there again because I think it is important.

The "repeat" scenes in Spidey 1 and 2 like the backyard scene with MJ and the burning building scene were to show the growth of these characters, IMO. In the first movie, the backyard scene is all about Pete and MJ talking about what they think their lives will be like in the near future. By spidey2, we actually get to see their lives at this time, and Peter's prediction about MJ becoming famous is beginning to become true, but Peter is just struggling.
For the burning building scene, in the first movie Spidey easily swings in and saves a baby from a burning building like the typical hero he was. In movie 2, he didn't even have his powers, but was able to pull of the same feat. Hero? Not entirely, because someone according to the firefighters got trapped and burned alive that he didn't find on one of the higher floors. Peter wonders if he is even supposed to try anything heroic again at this point, or maybe if he was Spider-man that he may have been able to save everyone.

I think these two scenes worked well to show these characters' progressions in life for fans that followed the movies closely and recognize similar scenes. Maybe, especially the backyard scene, would have been really neat to see in movie 1 and 3 but not in 2. That would be nostalgic! But I don't think these scenes need to be "repeated" again (and the backyard can't because Aunt May got evicted!). I think the Uncle Ben scene would work well again because it would remind Peter and the audience why Spider-man became Spider-man, and it was only described and scene as a painting in the second movie, which kind of gave Uncle Ben's death a mythic quality because we didn't see video of it, but it kept on coming up in people's dialouge.

On a similar note, the "repeat" dream/spiritual sequence in Spidey2 with Peter and Uncle Ben in the car worked well because it showed how Peter was doing exactly what Uncle Ben warned in that speech in Spidey 1 - not living up to his responsibility.
 
Hate to go off topic but as its been mentioned to my understandings as a big fan of both venom and carnage. Venom is weakened by heat and loud noise, carnage on the other has a higher tolerance for sound but a greater weakness for heat. Just seeing if anyone can confirm that bout Carnage.
 
NinjaTurtleFan said:
While a bit repetative we've bared witness to this same formula for years in the comics. Just like Superman always having to save Lois, Spider-Man will always save M.J.

I do think though in movie 4 it's time for Black Cat.
I really hope that they dont use black cat! It might have worked in the comics, but surdently not cinematicly. We dont need no Joel Schumacher repeating in these glorious movie's! In Batman Forever and Batman & Robin EVERYBODY wanted to wear a costume and scream: look at me! I'm wearing spandex too, HOORAY!! That better NOT happen in the spider-man movie's:( It'll be so tottally lame. But that's just me.
 
I think the whole Spiderman 2 is a rehash of Spiderman 1. I loved 1, but 2 was meh. :o *prepares to be lynched*
 
^ You wont be lynched for telling your oppinion... But I of course dont agree, but that's just me. I wouldn't say that I love spider-man 2 more than spider-man 1 (well in some area's!).. Spider-man 2 just had a hell of a lot better effects.. and that whole clocktower/train battle is the baddest-coolest-breathtaking & most intense piece of cinematic action sequence ever caught on film. NO! Lord of the Rings doesn't stand a chance in that area, it's just more massive, but surdently not more intense NOR more beautifully looking. That's not ME, that's a FACT! I haven't seen anything in other films that takes my breath away nearly as much as that fight sequence on the train, in spidey 2.

I dont think that spider-man 2 was a repeater of spider-man 1, at all... It had some elements.. like a scientist getting all ****ed up by his own damn experiment. and things such as spidey saving MJ from the villain at the end (which will also happen in spidey 3).
But other then those two little things, spidey 2 is a totally different story.

-In spidey 2 he gives up his hero thing in order to be with MJ.
-He gets sick because nothing goes his way (psychological that it, which is brilliant!)
-Harry has gone vengeful and taken over his father's company.
-MJ "threatens" to get married, and has become quite a fine actress.
-Aunt May has fallen on hard times since the death of Uncle Ben.
-The film has some darker elements (look at that DocOc hospital scene!).
-It's DEFINITLY more stylish in look and story. it's a bit more mature.
-The action looks waaaaay better, and litteraly blows the first one away!
-MJ and Pete ends up together

honnestly, I can't see that spidey 1 & 2 are alike at all... other then they both happen to be about spider-man. And "SPIDER-MAN 3" will without doubt be the biggest of them all. I aint saying better, cause I need to see it first. But it'll be a whole lot different then the previous two films, that's for sure!
 
SuperFerret said:
There should be a burning building scene that shows the suits weakness to fire.

NOOOOOO!!! No more burning buildings! How many times does that dump have to burn down till they quit rebuilding the damn thing! :csad: :cmad:
 
NinjaTurtleFan said:
Every comic book movie is repeated somewhere or another.

In the "Superman" films it's everytime he flies or uses his powers.

"Batman"- When he uses his gadgets, Batmobile or other vehicles, and reliving the night his parents were murdered.

"Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles"- Eating pizza, kicking butt, etc.

The list goes on really...

Amen brother!!!
 
Menthol said:
NOOOOOO!!! No more burning buildings! How many times does that dump have to burn down till they quit rebuilding the damn thing! :csad: :cmad:
the burning buildings werent bad, they added cool affect in diffrent situations with peter.
 
SuperFerret said:
There should be a burning building scene that shows the suits weakness to fire.

As much as I hate the burning building scenes. This could be a cool twist on it.

and MJ getting captured is annoying sure, but I guess it's just really hard to keep her active in the third act. The comics seem to be having a really hard time knowing what to do with MJ also.But this one seemed to be the most positive expirience for Kirsten, so maybe she doesn't scream too much.

Also on IMDB they list Flash Thompson as being in this movie. That could give a bit of Nostalgia if its true. Now if only we had an actual goblin again.
 

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