Days of Future Past Simon Kinberg Penning First Class Sequel

[Downhere]

With The Wolverine seeming to be delayed yet again, maybe they will want the First Class sequel to come out before another Wolverine. That would be good I would think.

 

[Nerial]

That is beyond awesome! Yay--sequel!

 

[Angamb]

With The Wolverine seeming to be delayed yet again, maybe they will want the First Class sequel to come out before another Wolverine. That would be good I would think.

that would be PERFECT! Lol

t:

 

[xii22_loop]

honestly, if Tom Rothman is behind putting Simon Kinberg on as a writer i will *****ING PUKE.

can you believe TOM ROTHMAN is getting some sort of Industry Tribute award. unbelievable! he's been responsible with so many situations with studio interference that ends up degrading films quality.
http://www.ifp.org/press/tom-rothma...ent-to-receive-gotham-award-industry-tribute/

 

[Cherry]

honestly, if Tom Rothman is behind putting Simon Kinberg on as a writer i will *****ING PUKE.

can you believe TOM ROTHMAN is getting some sort of Industry Tribute award. unbelievable! he's been responsible with so many situations with studio interference that ends up degrading films quality.
http://www.ifp.org/press/tom-rothma...ent-to-receive-gotham-award-industry-tribute/

Yep, that's pretty disgusting. What's that about failing upwards in Hollywood? *cough, cough*

 

[mclay18]

Well, since Vaughn is directing again -- expect him and Jane Goldman to do rewrites before the movie gets greenlit.

 

[marvelrobbins]

He and jane Goldman will probally do rewrites but let's remember too Kinberg was key
member of first Class team as producer and did uncredited polishing of the script.

 

[BestGirl]

Kinberg wrote Sherlock Holmes which is one of my favorite movies so I'm hoping he'll bring some of that quality to XFC2.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Very true.I enjoyed his written mr and mrs smith as well.So he has done more than The Last Stand.Which blame has to be In large part of studio.

 

[psylockolussus]

I am not happy that Simon Kinberg is writing.

None of the films he wrote were great and he ruined X3.

The screenwriters of X-Men: First Class should rewrite his script after he's done with it.

 

[merbass]

Rewrite is gonna happen for sure.

X3 was doom from the start ! Any writer or director will fail that movie

 

[The Original Bamfer]

Kinberg may write his draft, but as was the case in First Class, several hands will probably leave their mark (and make drastic changes.) Vaughn and Singer know what they're doing; if they weren't involved, I'd be very concerned.

 

[josh8]

I'm thinking that they just needed to hire a WGA certified writer in order to get the ball rolling. I have no doubt that Kinberg is working off of ideas from Singer and Vaughn and eventually Vaughn will just re-write the whole thing like he usually does. He never directs a movie where he doesn't have a heavy hand in the screenplay.

 

[Loganbabe]

'X-Men: First Class' Sequel Will Be Magneto-Heavy, Screenwriter Says

Posted 3 hours ago by Kara Warner in Marvel, News


If I had my way, we "X-Men: First Class" fans would be getting a sequel this summer. Or this week, for that matter. Unfortunately I don't get my way and we're going to have to wait awhile for a few of the most in-demand actors in the business right now to get some free time to suit-up again. Also there is the matter of needing a script from which to work.
MTV News recently caught up with the sequel's screenwriter Simon Kinberg at the premiere of his latest film, "This Means War," where we discussed his plans for Magneto, Xavier and the rest.


"I don’t know what the title is going to be but certainly I’m working on the sequel to 'X-Men: First Class' right now," Kinberg said. "I’m going to be writing and producing it, I’m starting now, with Matthew Vaughn directing."
When asked about what he enjoys most about incorporating so many characters into the story, Kinberg first emphasized his fanboy-ness, along with excitement to further explore the many layers of Magneto and Charles Xavier.

"I’m a huge X-Men fan. I grew up loving the comic books and it was really exciting to be able to do the origin story of Xavier and Magneto, and getting those two actors, [James] McAvoy and [Michael] Fassbender, were really amazing," he said. "So being able to explore those characters with actors of that quality will be exciting a second time around, and doing some things unexpected with those characters, which is the plan."
Kinberg went on to say that while they're still in the early stages of story-planning, the second film will likely involve a lot more Magneto.
"That’s what was so cool about the first one and what we want to continue," Kinberg said of exploring the supervillain's tortured beginnings. "Magneto becomes the villain ultimately of the franchise but he’s a much more complicated character as a young man. He’s someone you sympathize with, you care about you root for even though might not necessarily agree with his methods, you understand his philosophy."
So with the sequel will Magneto still be bridging the gap between good and bad or will he be a full-on villain?
"We’re still figuring that out. I think the truth is ultimately that because Michael is such an interesting actor, he’ll never be full-on anything. He’ll have a villainous side and he’ll have a sympathetic human side you’ll be able to relate but you’ll also be afraid of him. He becomes Magneto, he says 'Call me Magneto' at the end of the first movie."

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2012/02/16/x-men-first-class-sequel-simon-kinberg-interview/

That's it, I officially hate the sequel right now.
I'm tired of Magneto. Tired. Tired. Tired. And it's all starting again - as with Vaughn, not even a mention of Charles or the story focusing on him. And people come here to say that Charles didn't get the shaft in First Class. Lol, yeah right. And it'll happen again in Second Class. I really didn't have much hope that they would give Charles' story more focus and development.

I don't sympathize with Magneto. I hate this assumption that every freaking X-Men fan must sympathize with him and understand his "philosophy". And how about Xavier's philosophy? When are we going to get some of this? And why everybody involved in this franchise keeps singling Fassbender out as if McAvoy isn't an "interesting" actor as well, as if he didn't bring anything new to FC?

I hate my life.

 

[josh8]

Like I said earlier, I'm not worried about Kinberg because Vaughn will just re-write the script, but I have a question.

I didn't listen to the X3 commentary, but was Kinberg the one that obviously knew nothing about the X-Men history (besides Ratner, of course) or was it the other writer?

 

[Electrix]

I don't blame Kinberg that much for X3. Fox basically gave them a list of all the plot points, and they just had to write the script. X3 may have been better with different writers, but it would have had the same beats and story. Plus Ratner changed stuff around when he joined.

Kinberg wrote Sherlock Holmes, which was well received, and we'll have to wait to see how good his Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter is. Vaughn won't shoot a movie he isn't happy with, and so far he's had a good track record at making good movies.

 

[chamber-music]

I won't be surprised if Vaughn brings Jane Goldman back to rewrite Kinbergs draft.

I hope Havok and Banshee characters are expanded more in the sequal like Ice-Man was in the Singer X-Men movies.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Kinberg and Zack Penn grew up reading X-Men comics.It was Brett Ratner who knew nothing about the X-Men and claimed he was true to comics and both X-Men and X2.And once he even claimed he saved the franchise.

As I say to people Kinberg was a key part of first Class team with Bryan Singer,Matthew Vaughn,and Jane Goldman.He did uncredited polishing of First Class script.

I am sure he has talked to both SInger and Vaughn about the story and their ideas for sequel.After Kinberg Is done I am sure Vaughn and Goldman will rewrite the script.

A lot of problems with The Last Stand was Fox.Let's give the first Class team some faith for the sequel.

 

[BestGirl]

I didn't care much about Havok and Banshee in XFC so it means little to me if they're more developed in the sequel. The amount of screentime they got in XFC was fine, IMO.

I'm not thrilled about a Magneto-centric sequel, either, but as others have stated, Goldman and Vaughn will be rewriting the script and McAvoy will surely be consulted about his character. I'll worry later.

 

[blueserenity]

My stomach sank when I read the news. Magneto is absolutely my favorite character of the series, but I'd WAAAY rather see a Charles-centric sequel. Erik had his trials and tribulations in First Class. Charles' life was just destroyed in the most severe emotional and physical ways. To me the character to focus on is obvious, but action fanboys like Kinberg don't understand. I really don't see how they could have MORE Magneto in a sequel.

Ugh, I dunno. I can only hope that Vaughn doesn't have as much of a hardon for Magneto as Kinberg does, or that JM and MF actually do get in at the ground level and make some strong suggestions. Both actors have made clear that they believe the sequel should focus on Charles and I'd venture that most fans are on the same page.

 

[josh8]

Kinberg and Zack Penn grew up reading X-Men comics.It was Brett Ratner who knew nothing about the X-Men and claimed he was true to comics and both X-Men and X2.And once he even claimed he saved the franchise.

I'm sure that's true. It's just that I recalled reading that, based on the commentary, one of the writers was obviously lying in interviews about how much he knew about X-Men history.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Penn helped devolp the script for X2.And Kinberg did produce and do uncredited script work on First Class.So both have been Involved In decent X-Men films.But,If one of them were lying I suspect It was Penn.

 

[Loganbabe]

Ugh, I dunno. I can only hope that Vaughn doesn't have as much of a hardon for Magneto as Kinberg does, or that JM and MF actually do get in at the ground level and make some strong suggestions. Both actors have made clear that they believe the sequel should focus on Charles and I'd venture that most fans are on the same page.

Well, Vaughn only had eyes for Magneto in the first film and I don't think he'll change his views any time soon. Even though James said Vaughn had some great ideas for Charles...eh, ideas are just ideas. They had this great idea of giving Charles a big action scene with the telepathic battle, and then nothing.

And I don't think Fassbender will be all modest and say "oh no, please don't focus on Magneto, it's Charles story now!" He said that because he was on a publicity round and he would've sounded arrogant saying that he wanted the sequel to keep the focus on Magneto. He wants to be a star, so it won't worry him one bit a Magneto-centric sequel.

That leaves James to fight for Charles...but James didn't sound too optmist in some interviews. He knows how big studios work. He knows he plays a difficult character, one that's not suited for action/fantasy movies. I think that's he's hopeful that Charles will get an interesting arc in the sequel; but no matter what, he'll do his best.

I'll be completely heartbroken if they skip Charles' struggles and the consequences of his paralysis, but to be honest after this interview I'm really pessimist.

 

[blueserenity]

Well, Vaughn only had eyes for Magneto in the first film and I don't think he'll change his views any time soon. Even though James said Vaughn had some great ideas for Charles...eh, ideas are just ideas. They had this great idea of giving Charles a big action scene with the telepathic battle, and then nothing.

And I don't think Fassbender will be all modest and say "oh no, please don't focus on Magneto, it's Charles story now!" He said that because he was on a publicity round and he would've sounded arrogant saying that he wanted the sequel to keep the focus on Magneto. He wants to be a star, so it won't worry him one bit a Magneto-centric sequel.

That leaves James to fight for Charles...but James didn't sound too optmist in some interviews. He knows how big studios work. He knows he plays a difficult character, one that's not suited for action/fantasy movies. I think that's he's hopeful that Charles will get an interesting arc in the sequel; but no matter what, he'll do his best.

I'll be completely heartbroken if they skip Charles' struggles and the consequences of his paralysis, but to be honest after this interview I'm really pessimist.

First of all I don't think it's fair to go at that angle for Fassbender. He stands out as an actor because he's willing to take risks and stand back when he needs to. I really get the impression he wants what's best for the characters and story, not for his publicity. I really don't see him as fame-hungry. A family friend of mine actually grew up with him (and remains close with his family) and when I told him I was worried Fassbender's newfound rush to stardom going to his head he was adamant that Fassbender is absolutely "one of the most down-to-earth, humble people you'll ever meet". I think it's too cynical to assume he's going to suddenly change his tune about Charles. I'm sure he's going back to the movie for the fun and because of the contract. Despite what a brilliant actor he is I'm sure there are no grand illusions that his performance as Magneto will net him an Oscar.

Second of all, McAvoy sounded neither optimistic nor pessimistic about Charles' role in the sequel. All of his quotes on the character have been in text, not in video or sound bites, so they come off as pretty neutral. Any "I hope"s or "maybe"s he may have used (I don't remember any of his quotes verbatim) is less pessimistic and more him not wanting to step on any toes or make statements when nothing is clear. But I will say that some recent quote of his indicated he had really liked what Vaughn had pitched to FOX. I don't think he was lying, if he was it would have been easier to leave the comment out entirely.

The telepathic battle was cut because apparently it followed Inception's hotel fight too closely. Also it would have added a tidy sum to the film's already-way-over budget. In terms of the story, as muuuch as I would have loved to have seen it, it is really the only action event that doesn't move the plot forward. And I think they'll probably use it in a sequel.

Next, I wouldn't worry too much about how big studios work and worry more about how Vaughn works. It took months to announce a sequel officially, and it wasn't till something like 4 months later that Vaughn was announced to be attached to it. My guess is that they were in negotiations with him the whole darn time. FOX likes to keep fingers in all the pies but I imagine Vaughn wanted to bargain to keep them as far away from major story decisions as possible.

Aaaand finally. This goes against my previous post when I was worked up after just having red the news, but I don't think we should be pessimistic about this. It's still easily another year, maybe two, until filming. A quick look around tells me EVERYONE from fanboys to casual moviegoers think the sequel should be about Charles. And even if it remains largely about Magneto, there's no way they can just gloss over what happened to Charles. And I still wouldn't underestimate the power that James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender's suggestions could have. Charles was a pretty boring character until McAvoy stepped in with some suggestions, Vaughn has said this himself. If they want a character story, there is just no way that can ignore what's happened.

Remember when we all freaked out that Simon Kinberg was behind the script? That's like this. And now that we know Vaughn is directing and will probably rewrite the whole thing, there is still a healthy chance that the movie will be excellent.

So stop worrying, stop being pessimistic, and let's wait till Vaughn and Goldman rewrite the script and make announcements about the official final draft before we waste anymore energy.

 

[Loganbabe]

First of all I don't think it's fair to go at that angle for Fassbender. He stands out as an actor because he's willing to take risks and stand back when he needs to. I really get the impression he wants what's best for the characters and story, not for his publicity. I really don't see him as fame-hungry.

I won't change my opinion on Fassbender. I understand how others would see him as just a fantastic actor and not fame-hungry at all, but it's different for me. I saw three of his films before First Class and I never thought of him as brilliant, but suddenly everybody expects that we will find him the greatest actor to ever grace the Earth. So yeah, there's a whole lot of publicity involved in this, and I don't see him standing back anytime soon. He's going for it; if the director/writers/producers tell him that Magneto will be the focus once again, I don't think he'll be sad about it.
But like I said, it's my personal opinion. I respect your POV on Fassbender, just please respect mine.

Remember when we all freaked out that Simon Kinberg was behind the script? That's like this. And now that we know Vaughn is directing and will probably rewrite the whole thing, there is still a healthy chance that the movie will be excellent.

Yeah, there's a chance. I'm not denying it. But the interview left me more on the pessimistic side. It's funny because I was incredibly optimist for FC and I always believed that the movie would turn out great, despite of what the majority of fanboys said at the time. But FC turned more into a "Magneto show" than I expected, so I'll admit that after reading what Kinberg had to say, my optmistic level is incredibly low for Second Class.