Simple Test Dummy: Sans Routh, which suit is "stronger"?

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  1. Spider-jedi Registered

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    as much as i dont like the cape attachment i think he chose it becase after the manips i've seen with the lower neckline of routh it just does not fit him, and he doesn't have the neck for it
     
  2. gdw Registered

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    But he does have the neck for it. If you take a picture of Routh NOT wearing the suit, and make a manip with his neck from there, you'll see how it works.

    The reason you can't do it with the suit on him is because the collar changes the way his neck looks and the wayit goes into his traps.

    You also do not see where his traps actually are because of where the cape is.

    His neck is thicker the Reeves and Alyn, and I think even Cain, and they all worked well with the traditional Superman look.

    That's one of the other things about this, Singer seems to maintain that the suit has changed a LOT, and more or less every element of "his" design has been featured with Superman somewhere, EXCEPT the neck line and cape like it is.

    It has NEVER been depicted like this. NO cape on a hero figure has EVER been done like this, and clearly for a reason.
     
  3. Spider-jedi Registered

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    i see your point
     
  4. lujho Registered

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    Yeah. This design was still wrong, but wrong for different reasons. I think I (just barely) prefer the look we got, because this look is somewhat ugly... but it does drape over the shoulders in a more pleasing manner.

    Here's what that suit looked like in real life. It's not right, and God knows what they were thinking to think this looked good either, but align those straight pleats with a horizontal collar and you'd have something.

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    It's like they said "hey, we tried changing it from the traditional look and it looks silly. I'm not sure why, so let's just change it to something else that's different from the traditional look and see if it looks any better." It seems the only thing they didn't try was the traditional look, because for some arbitrary reason they ruled it out right off the bat.

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  5. gdw Registered

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    Yeah, i'm glad they didn't go with that either, but yes it did have the idea there.

    And that manip you have makes me so sad, it's like an inch difference and it looks so damn perfect AND it would have given Singer his dumb tighter collar.

    Basically, yeah, THAT is a CAPE!
     
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    great manip luhjo.. THAT is exactly what i was thinking. You have the higher tighter opening, but its still open and has the straight across neckline and it attaches the cape in a manner that's traditional. great job and it illustrates just how the superman costume could have been made to look more accurate that what we were given :up:

    The way luhjo has manipped it makes it look like the cape is integrated into the costume rather than just an afterthought as in the Singer costume.
     
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    ^ I admit that does look very good.
     
  8. lujho Registered

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    Of course, you know who has a cape that sits very close to how Superman's should be?

    Christian Bale's Batman. It's attached diffently (the "clasps"), but the overall shape is Far closer to Superman's traditional cape that Routh's, by far. I especially love how it's loose at the back.

    maybe Lindy Hemming should have designed the Super-Cape?

    http://www.batmanunmasked.com/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=236
    http://www.batmanunmasked.com/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=48
    http://www.batmanunmasked.com/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=64
     
  9. gdw Registered

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    So, anyone got a collection of cape pics yet? Come on now, just show me ONE single person wearing a cape like the SR suit that looks good.

    Anyone? Please?
     
  10. gdw Registered

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    So, anyone got a collection of cape pics yet? Come on now, just show me ONE single person wearing a cape like the SR suit that looks good.

    Anyone? Please?
     
  11. gdw Registered

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    What was that? My post multiplied like five times there for a second.
     
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    Well, here we go:

    Heroic
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    Heroic
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    Heroic
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    Heroic/impressive
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    Heroic
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    Heroic
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    Heroic
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    Heroic
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    Heroic
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    Heroic
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    Heroic
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    NOT heroic
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  14. gdw Registered

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    It just creates thatheroic broad shoulders thing. Like they can actually bare something.
     
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    good observations. they should use the 2nd photo there as the version of the suit for the sequel.

    general consensus from fans and non-fans i've gotten to speak with is that they find this suit rather "odd".
     
  16. Mr. Thing HAHAHAHA no.

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    Oh my god, that is perfect! That is what I want for the sequel.
     
  17. Spare-Flair Registered

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    At least we get some of the cape draping over in this picture
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    It reminds me of being a kid and tucking a red towel into my t-shirt to play Superman...
     
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    i still say the symbol on the belt should be gone... it draws too much attention the genital area of Superman, and that's the last place you wanna look on that suit...
     

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