Sin City: A Dame to Kill For

[jaymes_e06]

There were at least two other actresses in the movie who were nude, and one of them was Jaime King, who already established a name for herself in the Hollywood when she was in the first Sin City. To me, it seems like Alba was pulling a diva and made an excuse that her military dad won't approve of her so she couldn't do nude scenes, but in fact she probably felt like it was beneath her status to be naked on the screen. If she felt so strongly about it, why did she accept a stripper role in a R-rated movie based on a graphic novel where her character was nude in it?

This happens all the time Raiden. Why did they hire her when they knew she wouldn't do nudity. They both got something out of the deal. Movies constantly negotiate nudity clauses even if the script has nothing but it in it. It's the nature of the beast.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Agreed. She is still hot, but man in 2005, her role in Sin City she was stunning. She is a little skinnier then before.

Yeah she was at the peak of her powers for hotness in 2005, everything was just perfect. Shame she has gone the way of so many others and gone too skinny now though, I think thats why I dont find her anywere near as hot nowadays.

 

[Octoberist]

I think the allure of Alba was that she was so young when she found success. in some ways, it's very taboo because she was still very fresh-faced with the baby-fat. It's weird but it's no different why the Japanese sexualize teenage girls etc. Stuff like that. Wasn't she like 18-19 when she was in Dark Angel?

The reason why I say it's taboo because it's something that not a lot of people will admit. It's the same thing with pop stars, etc.

 

[def28]

Miller was overrated at his best and his decline proved this. Some interesting ideas, one note delivery.

Personally, I don't think he was ever overrated. Dude gets plenty of **** nowadays, but I think he deserves the credit where it's due. Year One, Dark Knight Returns, Sin City and his Daredevil remain some of my favorites through the years. He did some other fine work back in the day but that stuff stuck with me growing up and it's pretty much what got me into comics. We wouldn't have alot of awesome Batman and Daredevil material if it were not for the guy's excellent takes on them. Including film and animation . After all these years Sin City probably remains my favorite mature book out there, I can understand that it's not everyones style cause of the subject matter and attitude but I think it hits the mark for what it's going for. Also loved the work he did in Wolverine.

Not a fan of his later work, though it is always interesting to see what he comes up with.

 

[Octoberist]

I think the problem with Miller is his politics especially after 9/11. Dare I say he went even MORE insane. Insane is good but he got so extreme that whatever irony/satire he had in his writing was lost.

 

[def28]

Yeah, the political aspect of his books got out of hand.

 

[Octoberist]

So out of hand that his books now lacks focus, and instead of satirical, it just dives into bad taste.

 

[def28]

It's some pretty out there stuff. Was hoping he would release more Sin City Yarns.

 

[Naked Shia]

I don't see anything mature about Sin City. I like it, it's fun, it's dark, and it's not for kids. but it's far from mature.

 

[def28]

I don't see anything mature about Sin City. I like it, it's fun, it's dark, and it's not for kids. but it's far from mature.

Mature meaning it's a book intended for adults, not kids.

 

[Naked Shia]

in that regard, i can only agree of course.

 

[hammerhedd11]

To put this delicately: Frank Miller does not write women well. They are all caricatures of femme fatales and prostitutes with hearts of gold. Literally the only two professions he seems able to surmise are stripping and prostitution. The only two women who do not frequent either profession (or serve as waitresses at establishments that do) are either "hot lesbians" (Carl Gugino) are implied unattractive lesbians (how Marv characterizes the judge who sentences him to death). Yes, getting actresses of the caliber of Rosario Dawson or Eva Green are nice.

But with Miller, it is surely not a necessity.

To be fair, I think that mostly applies to Sin City, and besides Hartigan, I can't really say the men fare any better in being too honorable either.

As for the rest of his work, I think Elektra and his Martha Washington series are examples that he can write strong female characters without resorting to that archetype.

 

[Loki882]

I actually think that Miller's obsession with sex, hookers, crime, etc works for something like Sin City. The whole premise is that this is a city that's completely corrupt and full of crime, vice, violence, etc. Seriously, it makes Gotham look squeaky-clean by comparison. Plus, there are very few out and out good characters in these stories, they're mostly anti-heroes. It works for this series. Even the dialogue works because it's homaging noir, the art style to. The problem is that Miller then tries to use the same kind of style in OTHER books, and it doesn't really fit those stories.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I think the problem with Miller is his politics especially after 9/11. Dare I say he went even MORE insane. Insane is good but he got so extreme that whatever irony/satire he had in his writing was lost.

Yeah, that's my biggest problem with him these days. It's really hard to stomach.

 

[hammerhedd11]

Yeah, that's my biggest problem with him these days. It's really hard to stomach.

Besides Holy Terror, has his views really shown up in any of his other recent work? I feel like it's mostly coming straight from him in interviews and such.

 

[Loki882]

It kind of does in 300 with his "problematic" depiction of the Persians and his unapologetic "screw you all" attitude when people call him out on it.

 

[def28]

Haven't read it for awhile but remember not digging Dark Knight Strkes Again for the social/political satire, on top of some other insanity.

300 I didn't have many issues with, preferred it over the film.

 

[Loki882]

I'm the exact opposite. I much preferred the film. Miller, can you at least try to hide your racism next time? The movie was at least entertaining.

 

[def28]

Meh, the art is really what made 300 so good. Some of Millers best illustration work imo. Guess you could say that about the style of the film as well, I just thought it worked better as a Graphic Novel then film overall.

Think I'm in the minority on the film though. Audiences loved that one.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Butler > Miller's art. Man is a force of nature in 300.

 

[slumcat]

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1499344/jessica-alba-nudity-option-sin-city.jhtml


I don't think she was ever considering it tbh.

I don't think it was appropriate to cast Alba if she was not prepared to go topless. The role called for that and there are many actresses who would have done the role.

And its not like Alba is a great actress. So no point in casting her.

 

[Majik1387]

And again, it was something Rodriguez and those involved didn't mind; No big deal.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think the allure of Alba was that she was so young when she found success. in some ways, it's very taboo because she was still very fresh-faced with the baby-fat. It's weird but it's no different why the Japanese sexualize teenage girls etc. Stuff like that. Wasn't she like 18-19 when she was in Dark Angel?

The reason why I say it's taboo because it's something that not a lot of people will admit. It's the same thing with pop stars, etc.

Come 2005 she had grown into a woman though, and was at the peak of her powers looks-wise IMO, she has never been as good to look at since SC and FF1.

Like all or most actresses in Hollywood, she lost too much weight, for me anyway.

 

[Simo]

FYI according to the official FB page the trailer will be online tomorrow.
https://www.facebook.com/SinCityMov...1453246935509/607823799298449/?type=1&theater

 

[def28]

Awesome Hope it's as good as the first Sin City trailer. Great music choice in that one.