Snikt! Wolverine's Box Office Predictions

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I thought the demographic data suggested that Wolverine has broader appeal than Star Trek.

Here's a different take on why Wolverine had a better opening that Star Trek:
http://blog.newsarama.com/2009/05/12/box-office-battle-wolverine-vs-star-trek/

That is why Wolverine opened bigger.

 

[Celestial]

Nope, Star Trek's 8.8 million topped Wolverine's 3.3 in the U.K., but WO did stay #1 in France with 3.25 to ST's 2.8. Some more stats from the Variety article:

- Trek launched in significantly less markets, only 54 compared to WO's 102.

I thought that smaller number of markets could be a factor until I realised that these additional 48 markets make up a very small part of the international box office. Trek launched in all the major markets except for Japan and Mexico. Wolverine hasn't launched in those two either.

 

[Project862006]

not to mention Hugh Jackman's Wolverine has a 3 movie head start of the new trek team

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, Star Trek made more on its first Monday than Wolverine did, and by a couple of million also.

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

There were Harry Potter fans threatening the same thing after WB pushed the new movie's release from November to July - they were going to skip opening weekend so it hurt the box office.

People really do find the most meaningless things to protest.

The same thing happened with X3. But then people went to see it opening weekend out of curiosity and with the hope that all the rumors and early reviews weren't true.

 

[X-Maniac]

I have the UK figures for all superhero opening weekends, I'm trying to write an analysis piece once i have made inflation adjustments.

 

[Theweepeople]

That's not correct. It's been seven years since a Trek movie, the Trekkie fanbase is massive,

Since when was the Trekkie fanbase ever massive. None of the previous Trek movies made over 100million domestically and never made good foreign money. Star Trek was always a struggling franchise that endured premature series cancelations(TOS, Enterprise), poorly reviewed series(STar Trek Voyager, Enterprise) and small movie budgets due to a support but, moderately sized fanbase.

levels of anticipation were massive,

That's simply not true. In the past few weeks I've seen articles, blogs, and video clips of Trekie's who wouldn't see this movie simply because of the way it looked. The levels of anticipation you're referring to was generated mostly by non trek and casual trek fans like myself who were excited for this film.

and on top of that the reviews were favourable. ,

That helps, but strong reviews don't guarantee a strong opening weekend. Serenity, Hellboy, and Hellboy 2 are the perfect examples of this.

A strong opening weekend was guaranteed whether the film was good or not, purely based on anticipation for this revival of the franchise.

That's not true. Some experts predicted Star Trek would make around 50million for the weekend. The extra 29million that was made didn't come from diehard Star Trek fan repeat viewership. The diehard fanbase was never large enough to accomplish something like this.

It's the general audience that had a major impact on Star Trek's weekend gross and the grosses of other blockbuster films and franchises. The only diehard fanbase that could successfully accomplish something like this without the help of the general audience would be Star Wars and even that idea is far-fetched.

Opening weekends do not necessarily mean the film is unanimously considered fabulous. Need I remind you of X3's huge debut weekend?

Of course. However, I find it interesting that so many blockbuster films with mixed and poor reviews had large second weekend dropoffs.

X3 huge opening. Mixed reviews. 66.9% dropoff.
Wolverine good opening. Bad reviews. 69.0% dropoff.
Watchmen decent opening. Mixed reviews. 67.7% dropoff.
Hulk decent opening. Mixed reviews. 69.7% dropoff.
Matrix Revolutions. good opening. Bad reviews. 66.1%
The Village decent opening. Bad Reviews. 67.5% dropoff.
Fantastic four 2 decent opening. Bad reviews. 65.5% dropoff.
2Fast 2Furious decent opening. Bad reviews. 63.0% dropoff.
Twilight good opening. Bad reviews. 62.2% dropoff.
Fast and Furious good opening. Bad reviews. 61.6% dropoff.
Pirates of the Caribbean 3 great opening. Bad reviews. 61.5% dropoff
Spider-man 3 great opening. Mixed reviews. 61.5% dropoff.
Quantum of Solace good opening. Mixed reviews. 60.4% dropoff.
Incredible Hulk decent opening. Mixed reviews. 60.1% dropoff.

Honerable mentions
Van Heling decent opening. Bad reviews. 59.9% dropoff.
Matrix Reloaded. great opening. Mixed reviews. 59.8% dropoff.

Well, in relative terms Wolverine's drop isn't too bad. Wolverine fell 69 per cent against Star Trek,

Wolverine fell 69percent to a dead franchise that had never made big money that had previously been forcasted to make 50million during it's opening weekend. The dropoff is bad.

X3 fell 67 per cent against a crappy comedy. So, you could argue that Wolverine is a stronger draw because it had a stronger film to compete against.

You can also, argue that a 67 and 69 percent dropoff are still significant since not all blockbuster films drop this much during the second weekend inspite of significant competition.

Blockbuster films released from 2000 to 2008 that didn't suffer a second weekend dropoff of 60% inspite of facing stiff competition

2000 X1(56.8%dopoff) blockbuster competition(what lies Beneath) The Perfect Storm(34.4%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Scary Movie)

2001 Rush Hour 2(50.8%dropoff) blockbuster competition(American Pie 2, The Others)

2002 Austin Powers 3(57.3%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Signs) The Bourne Identity(44.4% dropoff) blockbuster competition(Minority Report) Minority Report(39.4%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Mr. Deeds)

2003 Bruce Almighty(45%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Finding Nemo) Finding Nemo(33.6%dropoff) blockbuster competition(2Fast 2Furious) Terminator 3(55.7%dropoff) blocbuster competition(Pirates 1)

2004 I-Robot(58.3%) blockbuster competition(The Bourne Supremacy) The Bourne Supremacy(53.9%dropoff) blockbuster competition(The Village)

2005 Mr. and Mrs. Smith(48.2%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Batman Begins) Fantastic Four(59.3%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Wedding Crashers)

2006 Click(50.2%dropoff) blockbuster competition(The Devil Wears Prada) Over the Hedge(29.5%dropoff) and Davinci Code(55.8% dropoff) blockbuster competition(X-Men 3) Superman Returns(58.4%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Pirates2)

2007 Transformers(47.4%) blockbuster competition(Harry Potter 5) Shrek The Third(56.3%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Pirates 3) Die Hard 4(46.8%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Transformers)

2008 Chronciles of Narnia(58.5%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Indiana Jones) Wall-E(48.4%dropoff) blockbuster competition( Hancock) Journey to the Center(41.2%dropoff) blockbuster competition(The Dark Knight)

These statitistics prove that blockbuster films don't automatically suffer a huge dropoff if their second weekend competition is significant.

Remember, Hellboy 2 plummeted 71 per cent on its second weekend in the USA because The Dark Knight opened and blasted it to bits (note that Hellboy opened later in other territories).

This isn't a fair comparison. Since when did Hellboy have a significant audience? The first film grossed a whopping 59million domestically and didn't even make it's money back. The second film failed to do the same and was outgrossed by a mixed reviewed awful looking 3D crapfest film that didn't appear to have fanbase. Hellboy 2 killed itself during it's opening weekend after all of it's microsized fanbase were done watching it.

Hellboy was never going to make big money. Opening weekends of 21.7mil of 34.5mil for both films proves the general audience have little interest in this franchise. The only thing unusual about Hellboy 2's dropoff is what you're trying to compare it to.

Second weekend drop-offs are not purely down to audience reaction, they are also down to the competition faced by the film.

Sometimes they are and many times they aren't. However, after anaylzing all of the above films I'm convinced the general audience reaction plays a much bigger role in determining the dropoff percentage.

 

[neemer5]

Of course. However, I find it interesting that so many blockbuster films with mixed and poor reviews had large second weekend dropoffs.

X3 huge opening. Mixed reviews. 66.9% dropoff.
Wolverine good opening. Bad reviews. 69.0% dropoff.
Watchmen decent opening. Mixed reviews. 67.7% dropoff.
Hulk decent opening. Mixed reviews. 69.7% dropoff.
Matrix Revolutions. good opening. Bad reviews. 66.1%
The Village decent opening. Bad Reviews. 67.5% dropoff.
Fantastic four 2 decent opening. Bad reviews. 65.5% dropoff.
2Fast 2Furious decent opening. Bad reviews. 63.0% dropoff.
Twilight good opening. Bad reviews. 62.2% dropoff.
Fast and Furious good opening. Bad reviews. 61.6% dropoff.
Pirates of the Caribbean 3 great opening. Bad reviews. 61.5% dropoff
Spider-man 3 great opening. Mixed reviews. 61.5% dropoff.
Quantum of Solace good opening. Mixed reviews. 60.4% dropoff.
Incredible Hulk decent opening. Mixed reviews. 60.1% dropoff.

Honerable mentions
Van Heling decent opening. Bad reviews. 59.9% dropoff.
Matrix Reloaded. great opening. Mixed reviews. 59.8% dropoff.




Wolverine fell 69percent to a dead franchise that had never made big money that had previously been forcasted to make 50million during it's opening weekend. The dropoff is bad.



You can also, argue that a 67 and 69 percent dropoff are still significant since not all blockbuster films drop this much during the second weekend inspite of significant competition.

Blockbuster films released from 2000 to 2008 that didn't suffer a second weekend dropoff of 60% inspite of facing stiff competition

2000 X1(56.8%dopoff) blockbuster competition(what lies Beneath) The Perfect Storm(34.4%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Scary Movie)

2001 Rush Hour 2(50.8%dropoff) blockbuster competition(American Pie 2, The Others)

2002 Austin Powers 3(57.3%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Signs) The Bourne Identity(44.4% dropoff) blockbuster competition(Minority Report) Minority Report(39.4%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Mr. Deeds)

2003 Bruce Almighty(45%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Finding Nemo) Finding Nemo(33.6%dropoff) blockbuster competition(2Fast 2Furious) Terminator 3(55.7%dropoff) blocbuster competition(Pirates 1)

2004 I-Robot(58.3%) blockbuster competition(The Bourne Supremacy) The Bourne Supremacy(53.9%dropoff) blockbuster competition(The Village)

2005 Mr. and Mrs. Smith(48.2%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Batman Begins) Fantastic Four(59.3%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Wedding Crashers)

2006 Click(50.2%dropoff) blockbuster competition(The Devil Wears Prada) Over the Hedge(29.5%dropoff) and Davinci Code(55.8% dropoff) blockbuster competition(X-Men 3) Superman Returns(58.4%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Pirates2)

2007 Transformers(47.4%) blockbuster competition(Harry Potter 5) Shrek The Third(56.3%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Pirates 3) Die Hard 4(46.8%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Transformers)

2008 Chronciles of Narnia(58.5%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Indiana Jones) Wall-E(48.4%dropoff) blockbuster competition( Hancock) Journey to the Center(41.2%dropoff) blockbuster competition(The Dark Knight)

These statitistics prove that blockbuster films don't automatically suffer a huge dropoff if their second weekend competition is significant.



This isn't a fair comparison. Since when did Hellboy have a significant audience? The first film grossed a whopping 59million domestically and didn't even make it's money back. The second film failed to do the same and was outgrossed by a mixed reviewed awful looking 3D crapfest film that didn't appear to have fanbase. Hellboy 2 killed itself during it's opening weekend after all of it's microsized fanbase were done watching it.

Hellboy was never going to make big money. Opening weekends of 21.7mil of 34.5mil for both films proves the general audience have little interest in this franchise. The only thing unsual about Hellboy 2's dropoff is what you're trying to compare it to.



Sometimes they are and many times they aren't. However, after anaylzing all of the above films I'm convinced the general audience reaction plays a much bigger role in determining the dropoff percentage.

What upsets me is that people are saying the dropoff wasn't so bad. It was. It was the 60th worse dropoff of all time. Considering th competition... it was still the 60th worse dropoff of all time. It failed original expectations by both market analysts and the production company.

I understand people are complaining that haters are using these facts to build their point. Yes, good movies like Hellboy 2 had a bigger dropoff. It is only one of many factors that determine how successful and how good a movie is. But these people are likely the ones who also made statements previously (I know, I searched) that used good numbers to support their claim. Can't have it both ways, guys.

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

I thought that smaller number of markets could be a factor until I realised that these additional 48 markets make up a very small part of the international box office. Trek launched in all the major markets except for Japan and Mexico. Wolverine hasn't launched in those two either.

Saying 102 markets versus 54 isn't a factor seems a lil' bit of an exaggeration there, don't ya think? I mean come on, WO opened with 9,234 playdates and ST only 5,000, how can that NOT be a factor? And since when is China not a major market? It's the most populated country in the world for God's sake! The Variety article first you then I sited mentioned Trek opening in Japan next weekend, along with China, which WO has been in since its universal opening day. There was no mention of WO having to yet play in Japan. The Mexico thing was a given for both, considering the mass hysteria over the "swine" flu. Do you have any factual evidence to support your claim that Trek's remaining international markets are all minor, except the aforementioned Japan and Mexico, and thus inconsequential? If you can prove your point, I'll be more than happy to defer.

Regardless, Trek will win the battle domestically, internationally, and subsequently worldwide... sooner than you think. WO will settle in for maybe 300-320 (add 15-20 for Japan if it's actually not there yet) million WW and ST will do 400+. You can take that to the bank! After ST's domestic Monday haul of $7,502,026, only about 3 mill now separates it from WO for the first 4 days of their respective releases. Trek will close and pass that gap in the next few days, the buzz is HUGE and everybody's talkin 'bout it.

And I wanna make sure I'm gettin' this right. You're saying that the 54 countries ST opened in are the same ones that made up the lion's share of WO's debut? The other 48 didn't mean s**t to it's $79,708,549, and therefore Trek's weaker 35.5 million pales in comparison. Is that about right? To quote Spock, that sounds rather illogical.

 

[UltimateJustin]

Saying 102 markets versus 54 isn't a factor seems a lil' bit of an exaggeration there, don't ya think? I mean come on, WO opened with 9,234 playdates and ST only 5,000, how can that NOT be a factor?

Seriously. 9,234 to 5,000? That's a deal-breaker, ladies.

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

Just wanted to add as analogy, WO's a sprinter and ST's an endurance runner... capiche? The race is all but over, and as far as I'm concerned, it was over before it even started. I thought the trailers alone were a perfect and obvious indication of that.

 

[craigdbfan]

Just wanted to add as analogy, WO's a sprinter and ST's an endurance runner... capiche? The race is all but over, and as far as I'm concerned, it was over before it even started. I thought the trailers alone were a perfect and obvious indication of that.

Agreed.

 

[Celestial]

Saying 102 markets versus 54 isn't a factor seems a lil' bit of an exaggeration there, don't ya think? I mean come on, WO opened with 9,234 playdates and ST only 5,000, how can that NOT be a factor? And since when is China not a major market? It's the most populated country in the world for God's sake! The Variety article first you then I sited mentioned Trek opening in Japan next weekend, along with China, which WO has been in since its universal opening day. There was no mention of WO having to yet play in Japan. The Mexico thing was a given for both, considering the mass hysteria over the "swine" flu. Do you have any factual evidence to support your claim that Trek's remaining international markets are all minor, except the aforementioned Japan and Mexico, and thus inconsequential? If you can prove your point, I'll be more than happy to defer.

Regardless, Trek will win the battle domestically, internationally, and subsequently worldwide... sooner than you think. WO will settle in for maybe 300-320 (add 15-20 for Japan if it's actually not there yet) million WW and ST will do 400+. You can take that to the bank! After ST's domestic Monday haul of $7,502,026, only about 3 mill now separates it from WO for the first 4 days of their respective releases. Trek will close and pass that gap in the next few days, the buzz is HUGE and everybody's talkin 'bout it.

And I wanna make sure I'm gettin' this right. You're saying that the 54 countries ST opened in are the same ones that made up the lion's share of WO's debut? The other 48 didn't mean s**t to it's $79,708,549, and therefore Trek's weaker 35.5 million pales in comparison. Is that about right? To quote Spock, that sounds rather illogical.

The release date for Wolverine for Japan is 18th September.

Star Trek has been released already in the UK, Australia, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Brazil, Russia, The Netherlands, South Korea, Taiwan and so on. That's pretty much all the major markets except for Japan, Mexico and China. Remember that all markets are not equal and the top 10-15 markets provide nearly all the overseas revenue.

Just by looking through the release dates at boxofficemojo, I can see only a few markets where Wolverine has been released but not Star Trek. These are China, Hong Kong and Egypt. Only China has the potential to generate more than $1m.

Star Trek is a well known brand in some overseas countries, particularly the UK, and those are the countries where it's doing well. In others, it's close to unknown which will be why the distributors have been more cautious in the number of playdates and release to the smaller markets. If there's limited demand, there's no point in spending the money on extra prints and marketing.

 

[X-Maniac]

Since when was the Trekkie fanbase ever massive. None of the previous Trek movies made over 100million domestically and never made good foreign money. Star Trek was always a struggling franchise that endured premature series cancelations(TOS, Enterprise), poorly reviewed series(STar Trek Voyager, Enterprise) and small movie budgets due to a support but, moderately sized fanbase.

I'd always thought the fanbase to be massive, as Star Trek is an iconic sci-fi franchise, much like Star Wars, Doctor Who and Battlestar Galactica. There are specialist websites and forums, fan conventions, an array of collectables. But, like any fanboy obsession, translating that to wide-scale mainstream success is never guaranteed. Yes, the original series lasted just three seasons, but the cult following only came afterwards so the fanbase wasn't established at the time of that first series. The first movie is the most commercially successful (so far) of them all.

That's simply not true. In the past few weeks I've seen articles, blogs, and video clips of Trekie's who wouldn't see this movie simply because of the way it looked. The levels of anticipation you're referring to was generated mostly by non trek and casual trek fans like myself who were excited for this film.

I did see a news report on ONN where Trek fans were reviewing the film and calling it fun and watchable.

That helps, but strong reviews don't guarantee a strong opening weekend. Serenity, Hellboy, and Hellboy 2 are the perfect examples of this.

I agree. Hellboy has a very limited appeal.

That's not true. Some experts predicted Star Trek would make around 50million for the weekend. The extra 29million that was made didn't come from diehard Star Trek fan repeat viewership. The diehard fanbase was never large enough to accomplish something like this.

It's the general audience that had a major impact on Star Trek's weekend gross and the grosses of other blockbuster films and franchises. The only diehard fanbase that could successfully accomplish something like this without the help of the general audience would be Star Wars and even that idea is far-fetched.

Variety predicted $60million, if i recall correctly, while MovieTickets.com predicted $100m based on sell-out screenings and general pre-sales. As it turned out, the result was in the middle of both estimates.

Of course. However, I find it interesting that so many blockbuster films with mixed and poor reviews had large second weekend dropoffs.

X3 huge opening. Mixed reviews. 66.9% dropoff.
Wolverine good opening. Bad reviews. 69.0% dropoff.
Watchmen decent opening. Mixed reviews. 67.7% dropoff.
Hulk decent opening. Mixed reviews. 69.7% dropoff.
Matrix Revolutions. good opening. Bad reviews. 66.1%
The Village decent opening. Bad Reviews. 67.5% dropoff.
Fantastic four 2 decent opening. Bad reviews. 65.5% dropoff.
2Fast 2Furious decent opening. Bad reviews. 63.0% dropoff.
Twilight good opening. Bad reviews. 62.2% dropoff.
Fast and Furious good opening. Bad reviews. 61.6% dropoff.
Pirates of the Caribbean 3 great opening. Bad reviews. 61.5% dropoff
Spider-man 3 great opening. Mixed reviews. 61.5% dropoff.
Quantum of Solace good opening. Mixed reviews. 60.4% dropoff.
Incredible Hulk decent opening. Mixed reviews. 60.1% dropoff.

Honerable mentions
Van Heling decent opening. Bad reviews. 59.9% dropoff.
Matrix Reloaded. great opening. Mixed reviews. 59.8% dropoff.

Good list. I agree newspaper reviews make a difference, I know people (non-geeks) who wait for reviews before deciding whether to see a film. Matrix Reloaded was part of an innovative hit franchise, so no surprise that Reloaded still did well. God knows what got such a reasonable drop for Van Helsing.

You can also, argue that a 67 and 69 percent dropoff are still significant since not all blockbuster films drop this much during the second weekend inspite of significant competition.

Blockbuster films released from 2000 to 2008 that didn't suffer a second weekend dropoff of 60% inspite of facing stiff competition

2000 X1(56.8%dopoff) blockbuster competition(what lies Beneath) The Perfect Storm(34.4%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Scary Movie)

2001 Rush Hour 2(50.8%dropoff) blockbuster competition(American Pie 2, The Others)

2002 Austin Powers 3(57.3%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Signs) The Bourne Identity(44.4% dropoff) blockbuster competition(Minority Report) Minority Report(39.4%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Mr. Deeds)

2003 Bruce Almighty(45%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Finding Nemo) Finding Nemo(33.6%dropoff) blockbuster competition(2Fast 2Furious) Terminator 3(55.7%dropoff) blocbuster competition(Pirates 1)

2004 I-Robot(58.3%) blockbuster competition(The Bourne Supremacy) The Bourne Supremacy(53.9%dropoff) blockbuster competition(The Village)

2005 Mr. and Mrs. Smith(48.2%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Batman Begins) Fantastic Four(59.3%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Wedding Crashers)

2006 Click(50.2%dropoff) blockbuster competition(The Devil Wears Prada) Over the Hedge(29.5%dropoff) and Davinci Code(55.8% dropoff) blockbuster competition(X-Men 3) Superman Returns(58.4%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Pirates2)

2007 Transformers(47.4%) blockbuster competition(Harry Potter 5) Shrek The Third(56.3%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Pirates 3) Die Hard 4(46.8%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Transformers)

2008 Chronciles of Narnia(58.5%dropoff) blockbuster competition(Indiana Jones) Wall-E(48.4%dropoff) blockbuster competition( Hancock) Journey to the Center(41.2%dropoff) blockbuster competition(The Dark Knight)

These statitistics prove that blockbuster films don't automatically suffer a huge dropoff if their second weekend competition is significant.

That's too much for the eye and brain to take in, but the general point you make is true. There is no automatic huge drop-off, the marketplace is unpredictable - we can analyse in hindsight but rarely predict in foresight.

This isn't a fair comparison. Since when did Hellboy have a significant audience? The first film grossed a whopping 59million domestically and didn't even make it's money back. The second film failed to do the same and was outgrossed by a mixed reviewed awful looking 3D crapfest film that didn't appear to have fanbase. Hellboy 2 killed itself during it's opening weekend after all of it's microsized fanbase were done watching it.

Hellboy was never going to make big money. Opening weekends of 21.7mil of 34.5mil for both films proves the general audience have little interest in this franchise. The only thing unusual about Hellboy 2's dropoff is what you're trying to compare it to.

Perhaps so, it does have limited appeal, despite del Toro and Ron Perlman (and Luke Goss for the sequel).

Sometimes they are and many times they aren't. However, after anaylzing all of the above films I'm convinced the general audience reaction plays a much bigger role in determining the dropoff percentage.

And also, those people who wait for newspaper reviews (or want to go later on when an auditorium is less packed) would be dissuaded by mixed/poor reviews.

 

[X-Maniac]

UK box office for last weekend....

Star Trek and Coraline beat Wolverine at UK box office

THE new Star Trek movie has beamed up to the top of the UK box office with a first weekend total of just under £6million.

Star Trek's £5.95million was way ahead of Coraline, whose debut brought in £2.4million and just beat X-Men Origins: Wolverine which fell to third place with £2.2million on its second weekend.

Hugh Jackman's Wolverine prequel has now made a total of £12million in the UK. Star Trek's UK debut was below that of Wolverine, which made £6.7million on its launch weekend.

Coraline, a critically-praised animated stop-motion fantasy based on Neil Gaiman's 2002 novella, is about a girl who discovers an alternative reality with evil doubles of her parents, friends and neighbours.

It features the voices of Dakota Fanning as Coraline Jones, Desperate Housewives actress Teri Hatcher as mother Mel and comediennes Jennifer Saunders and Dawn French as retired actresses Miss Spink and Miss Forcible.

Hannah Montana: The Movie is in fourth place with another £1.3million, giving it a £4.8million total after two weeks on release.

The other new release, British-German period drama Cheri starring Michelle Pfeiffer and Rupert Friend, slid in at 11th place with £120,000. The film was released in Germany in February and will get a limited USA release in June.

Meanwhile, Star Trek's release in Mexico City has now been rearranged for June 5. The swine flu outbreak had led to the closure of cinemas and other public buildings to contain the spread of the disease.

Star Trek's US opening weekend total has been revised to an actual $79.2million rather than the originally estimated $76.5million.

Source: http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2009/05/star-trek-and-coraline-beat-wo.html

 

[katie_girl09]

I'd always thought the fanbase to be massive, as Star Trek is an iconic sci-fi franchise, much like Star Wars, Doctor Who and Battlestar Galactica. There are specialist websites and forums, fan conventions, an array of collectables. But, like any fanboy obsession, translating that to wide-scale mainstream success is never guaranteed. Yes, the original series lasted just three seasons, but the cult following only came afterwards so the fanbase wasn't established at the time of that first series. The first movie is the most commercially successful (so far) of them all.

I think the Star Trek fanbase is a lot bigger than people give it credit for.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

UK box office for last weekend....



Source: http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2009/05/star-trek-and-coraline-beat-wo.html

Interesting, thanks, when I went to see Wolvie yesterday I was the only one in the screening, thats a sharp contrast to my first viewing which was packed and was only 5 days ago.

 

[danoyse]

I think the Star Trek fanbase is a lot bigger than people give it credit for.

Mostly the people who didn't admit that they were fans for years.

Seriously, I was a Star Trek junkie when I was a kid - never really a Trekkie, but I used to tape reruns of the original series and watch it after school and I loved most of the movies - and it's still blowing my mind that after all these years, Star Trek is actually considered cool right now.

The Star Trek movies were a big deal back in the 80s. I saw Wrath of Khan in the theater I guess around the opening weekend and I remember waiting on a long line to get in. It was sold out, and I remember there was a lot of sniffling going on in that theater when Spock died. And that was most definitely not an audience of Trekkies.

I was also about 8 when that movie came out, so I have no idea about the box office, but I remember people always made a big deal when the early ST movies first came out.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

So now we should have expected Star Trek to be bigger?..give me a break.

The excuses never stop.

 

[katie_girl09]

^See?
I mean, I think it says a lot that even my mom is into Star Trek. And she really doesn't have much time to be into anything, really.

 

[katie_girl09]

So now we should have expected Star Trek to be bigger?..give me a break.

The excuses never stop. :rolleyeys:

Huh? No one's saying that. The point was just that Star Trek has a lot more fans than a lot of people think. That's all.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^See?
I mean, I think it says a lot that even my mom is into Star Trek. And she really doesn't have much time to be into anything, really.

I'm trying to get my mom to see it. She likes Star Trek and was interested but she is a total homebody sometimes.

Huh? No one's saying that. The point was just that Star Trek has a lot more fans than a lot of people think. That's all.

Some people seem to be insinuating that.

 

[danoyse]

So now we should have expected Star Trek to be bigger?..give me a break.

The excuses never stop.

Who's making excuses?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

So what is this WW at the mo?

 

[BMM]

$3 billion.