BvS So the Joker knows Batman is Bruce Wayne?

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Judging by the trailer we can see someone sent a "you let your family die" hate mail to Bruce. The red chaotic writing resembles the Joker. Does this mean the Joker will know his identity?
 
There's stupid theories out there that the Joker is Jason Todd, if that happened I would make me give up on the DC universe completely.
 
Maybe it was Jason (as Red Hood) who sent the newspaper with the message "you let your family die". Joker obviously sent the Robin suit with the message "Ha Ha, the joke is on you Batman". I have a feeling that we are supposed to think it was The Joker who sent both the newspaper and the Robin suit and to not suspect that the messages were sent by different people (especially non-comic fans who will not suspect the Robin that Joker "killed" to come back as Red Hood). Perhaps the fact that both messages have a different colour of writing is a hint that the messages were sent by different people (or maybe the Joker just didn't want to write the message on the newspaper in green, idk I am just guessing).

It makes sense to me though, that Jason (as Red Hood) sent the message on the newspaper (which is a more personal message) because Jason knows Batman is Bruce whereas Joker generally does not. Also, for what it is worth (probably not much and is just me reading too much into nothing) but the colour green, which was the colour of the writing on the Robin suit, could perhaps be representative of Joker (his hair obviously and along with purple and white are the colours that are mainly associated with The Joker, or at least they are to me) and red, the colour of the writing on the newspaper, could be representative of Jason as the Red Hood.
 
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There are a few hints in the comics of Joker showing he knows Bruce is Batman, he doesn't use that to attack him.
 
There's stupid theories out there that the Joker is Jason Todd, if that happened I would make me give up on the DC universe completely.

if the joker is any former robin (yeah that includes the moronic uber unkillable grayson from that piece of crap strikes again) id say most fans will be pissed
 
Judging by the trailer we can see someone sent a "you let your family die" hate mail to Bruce. The red chaotic writing resembles the Joker. Does this mean the Joker will know his identity?

No.
 
It doesn't confirm anything since we lack context, but it's certainly possible Joker knows, but just isn't interested in revealing it, and just uses it as an easy way to annoy Bats.
 
Perhaps.

I don't think Joker cares about Bruce's identity anyways (especially if we go by New 52 - where he did figure it out, or it seems like he did...with Death of the Family storyline.

Of course, things might be a lot different in DCEU. Anyways, Joker's a psychopath. None of us can understand why he does the things he does.
 
I want to believe that it will remain open ended until we finally find out that the Red Hood sent it
 
I really don't think it will be something that blatantly obvious. I think it is misdirection to make us believe he could know his identity.
 
The letter could have been sent from Jason or Lex. Doesn't have to be from the Joker
 
Lex wrote the letter. Or Bruce thinks it's Joker, only it's Jason Todd.

It could be Joker. Not sure how i feel about that though. Depends on how the story progresses between Joker and Batman i guess.
 
David Ayer stated in a tweet that he wouldn't sign off on The Joker being Jason Todd. So if he's in his film (Suicide Squad) then The Joker probably isn't Todd…..
 
The letter could've been sent from a disgruntled employee of Wayne Enterprises, angry at Bruce for the people who died in the Wayne Enterprises building in Metropolis.
 
This stinks of misdirection.
 
I'm guessing The Joker is The Joker and the Red Hood is the Red Hood.

I think the 'you let your family die' taunt will have a payoff in the solo Batfleck film. We'll see.
 
David Ayer stated in a tweet that he wouldn't sign off on The Joker being Jason Todd. So if he's in his film (Suicide Squad) then The Joker probably isn't Todd…..
Where was this?
 
Perhaps by "family" he meant his sidekicks/partners. Obviously he whacked Jason Todd, is Gordon alive in this new universe? I thought somewhere they mentioned he was gone.
 
This stinks of misdirection.

As someone that likes good theories this stinks of fans having a theory based on one little snippet of film... And there's nothing wrong with that, but... I think this is a big mountain out of a mole hill. I don't believe right now that it's foreshadowing anything at all like Jason/Red Hood or the Joker. I think it ties into the plot of BvS and nothing more. That's me though. I am willing to be proven wrong once March rolls around.
 
David Ayer stated in a tweet that he wouldn't sign off on The Joker being Jason Todd. So if he's in his film (Suicide Squad) then The Joker probably isn't Todd…..

After the blatant lies about villains identities from J.J. Abrams for STID and Rocksteady on Arkham Knight, I'd take anything said about twists and characters' true identities with a grain of salt.
 
Jason being the Joker would also be somewhat of a ripoff of Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, where Tim Drake was the Joker, via a... <sigh>.... mind implant slash dna changer chip thingy (Comics everyone!).
 
It's roundly an awful idea.
 
Eh, I think it's from Lex.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if folks wrote hate mail to Bruce after the death toll in his building etc. I mean, in a more grounded film universe wouldn't he be sued regardless if he had anything to do with it?
 

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