"So You Think You Can Mod?"--A Hype Reality Show!

[Erzengel]

Wow good job Erz, I didn't know that PM's could be forged, but I do it with my emails all the time...

Would you like to see some hot girl on donkey action?

See it's that easy to fake a quote, reply, forward in a PM.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Hypster B could have forged it, that is true. That is why you can only issue a warning. A warning would also get Hypster A to give his side of the story.

My answer stands.

 

[Strange]

Just tell Hypester B to put Hypster A to ignore.

 

[Showtime]

See it's that easy to fake a quote, reply, forward in a PM.

...but I really said that in one of the threads?

 

[Erzengel]

Couldnt the mod just ask the admin to check?

Global Moderators handle the day to day issues with the forums, if moderators had to run to admins anytime there was an issue, what would be the purpose of having them as mods. Mods "usually" should be able to deal with most issues that come up.

 

[DeaDheaD]

Global Moderators handle the day to day issues with the forums, if moderators had to run to admin anytime there was an issue, what would be the purpose of having them as mods. Mods "usually" should be able to deal with the most issues that come up.

But you would think that if "B" was telling the truth, whats keeping "A" from backing off.

 

[Erzengel]

But you would think that if "B" was telling the truth, whats keeping "A" from backing off.

But in regards to the "scenario 2" given you have to take it as a seperate issue from "scenario 1" and could only work from the information given.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Are we just getting #3 still today...I have no computer access tonight, so I could only do #3 tommorrow, and I am not sure what the policy is on doing scenarios later.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

About Scenario #1: I'd just start paying close attention to both Hypester A and Hypester B's posts. Who knows what Hypester B has been saying too? If I notice subtle jokes, PM A and ask politely to lighten up on his jokes, because some people might feel offended by them. Depending on how he behaves after the PM, either problem is solved or a Warning. He keeps on, Probation...

 

[DeaDheaD]

But in regards to the "scenario 2" given you have to take it as a seperate issue from "scenario 1" and could only work from the information given.

I thought S2 was an expansion on S1, having an admin check "A"s sent shouldnt be to much of a bother, or give "B" an insult book

 

[Saved]

Are we just getting #3 still today...I have no computer access tonight, so I could only do #3 tommorrow, and I am not sure what the policy is on doing scenarios later.

Maybe 2 a day so it lasts a while? Then after this we can do "So you think you can mod?" And after that "Are you smarter than a mod?" And finally we can do the hit spin off, "Hype's next top modder."

 

[nosebleed.]

But in regards to the "scenario 2" given you have to take it as a seperate issue from "scenario 1" and could only work from the information given.

I put them together seeing as how they are related. I still feel that Hypester A SHOULD have gotten a warning in the first place. Seeing as how he didn't...you're right in the fact that he could be disgruntled. BUT Hypester A has made it known clearly in the past that he hates homosexuals. I don't see how a probationary ban could hurt anything except for Hypester A's feelings a little bit. More good would be done than harm and the situation would be resolved efficiently.

 

[Erzengel]

The possibility that Hypester A never sent anything to Hypester B is very high here. And the fact that Hypester B is still pissed at you (the mod) for not banning Hypester A in Scenario 1 could be driving him to frame that user.

I thought S2 was an expansion on S1, having an admin check "A"s sent shouldnt be to much of a bother, or give "B" an insult book

You are working off the assumption from Scenario 1 that because A is "harassing" B in the threads, you are automatically siding with B in his or her allegations with evidence that could be easily faked.

And like I said before, moderators really should work independantly from admins. Moderators are trusted to handle things themselves and while they might have to ask Admins every now and then for a lead, they should handle most of the stuff themselves.

 

[DeaDheaD]

You are working off the assumption from Scenario 1 that because A is "harassing" B in the threads, you are automatically siding with B in his or her allegations with evidence that could be easily faked.

And like I said before, moderators really should work independantly from admins. Moderators are trusted to handle things themselves and while they might have to ask Admins every now and then for a lead, they should handle most of the stuff themselves.

Yes, but if "A" goes a year straight of harrassment, and then a year straight of pming nudity, they just cant be treated separately, or there would be a lot less bannings then what there is

 

[DeaDheaD]

Its like building a murder case, you have gather up all the evdence, and hopefully try to prove it one way or the other, but probation is not the worst thing that could happen, if "A" is guilty

 

[DarthRekal]

ban everyone!

 

[Showtime]

My answer sounded good though.

 

[Erzengel]

Yes, but if "A" goes a year straight of harrassment, and then a year straight of pming nudity, they just cant be treated separately, or there would be a lot less bannings then what there is

This was the info given in Scenario 1

Question: The gay poster believes he's being singled out and harrassed and demands that you discipline HYPESTER A based on "assumptions." What do you do?

KEY POINT: Note that Hypester A is not "direct" with his trolling, nor has he attacked anyone. Technically he has not broken the rules. This is a gray area.

You aren't given a time frame so it's quite possible it's only been a week or a few weeks.

AND A hasn't "directly" attacked anyone, he or she is just making comments in Scenario 1.

For example if A just writes *snickers* or *LOL*, it's B's perception that it's toward them, however while it may be A trolling, if A isn't using any derogatory terms or directly berating someone, A isn't doing anything wrong.

 

[Super Kal]

edit

 

[DeaDheaD]

even if its 3 days of one 3 days of another, its still too much and if he was warned on S1 and is proven guilty on S2, he should get probation

 

[Showtime]

Great idea for a thread though. I like it.

 

[Erzengel]

even if its 3 days of one 3 days of another, its still too much and if he was warned on S1 and is proven guilty on S2, he should get probation

Lot of "if's" in there and a lot of assumptions.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Posting the pictures by pm is not breaking the rules unless they are posted public, but if the poster is offended by the photos which he has not asked for then he is harrasing the other poster,

this could be considered harrasment, if the poster has asked him to stop, its time to intervene, you have to ask him to stop posting the pictures to the poster, if not further consequences will take place.

 

[Showtime]

Posting the pictures by pm is not breaking the rules unless they are posted public, but if the poster is offended by the photos which he has not asked for then he is harrasing the other poster,

this could be considered harrasment, if the poster has asked him to stop, its time to intervene, you have to ask him to stop posting the pictures to the poster, if not further consequences will take place.

That is what my take was too.

 

[POWdER-man]

Damn......I have like 5 minutes for this....hmmmm

Hypester B could be making the whole story.....if you can't use PM's for judgement....can you even get into their PM to verify that Hype A is sending him PM's? If you can then maybe block PM's from his username....

Change to my answer since I now more information to go on....

I would just recommend B to block A. No PM's or messages on hype seen again. You can't control what goes on behind PM's (and have no proof) and if you don't involve admin's you can't do much about it still. If A logs on as different account, their IP would be the same. If continued harrassment remains under different name, ie continues small gay jokes, use that info to give a serious warning to A....one more slip up....BAN......