Homecoming Sony E-mails on wikileaks

So I'm finding that if you put in any movie title or actor's name in the search box you can find them in one of the Sony emails somewhere.

Most probably. 170k e-mails. Is quite a bit.
 
well things just took a very weird turn... I mean, not really but that would be funny.

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Hahahahahhah. Wow. :fhm:
 
I don't believe Sony isn't making any money off of Spider-Man being in Civil War. He's gonna be the best part of the movie for fans.

From the e-mails they were looking at Sony getting 25% of the Civil War profit. Then Marvel would get 25% of the Spidey film. Marvel did walk away from that deal (Oct/Nov) so has probably changed a bit.

I talked to Stefan and we are on the same page. If we do this, it should be a two picture “crossover” arrangement. They produce Capt America/Avengers with Spider-Man appearing and we own at least 25% of the film under a co-fi arrangement. And marvel character(s) appear in our next Spider-Man movie and they own 25% under a co-fi arrangement.
 
On Nov 13, 2014, at 10:25 PM, "Pascal, Amy" <[email protected]> wrote:

Scores same as last time and
Way way worse in ny
It's a wrap
There is no more to do
Cameron never really changed anything
People don't like people in movies who flirt with married people or married people who flirt
The satellite makes no sense
The gate makes no sense
I'm never starting a movie again when the script is ridiculous
And we al know it
I don't care how much I love the director and the actors
It never
Not even once
ever works

As much as I want movies
This is way worse
At least the marketing departments at both studios have something to sell like looks big and glossy
We have this movie in for a lot of dough and we better look at that
Scott didn't once go to the set
Or help us in the editing room
Or fix the script

We got positioned on jobs
Danny wants mf
Danny wants Cali
Danny wants his rehearsal period
We got totally positioned because the actor we didn't want has another movie he has to do so we are rushing into production with an actor we don't want and have no financing
Mrc passed
Megan passed
Village road show passed
Lone star will probably pass
New regency passed ( tonight
)I love the script but I can't do this to the company
We should figure out if we can stomach giving it to them in ta
Tomorrow for a week with mf at 33.4
I was told by a birdie that searchlight would pass
But then the person who told me that send maybe they wouldn't
I also found out that when we were trying to make Fincher deal it was sent around to every studio and people even passed in that
We are getting totally positioned in the Aaron stuff
He is broke
He wants to get paid
We paid him his insane fee on flashboys
When the poker movie came around we didn't want to not be in Aaron business so we wanted that too
After social network jobs and flashboys Aaron and mark took the project to the town on the "pretense" that we don't have money
They went to every single studio
Not just Donna and stacey ( not real meetings blah blah)
I don't care if Aaron is sleeping with the girl or not
I don't care if it becomes a beat seller
They are treating us like ****
He wants to write them together or poker movie first
We waited for him to write jobs for 3 years ( 2 anyway)
When mike told them we wanted him to write flashboys first ( how long ago did they make the deal) ari sent an email saying he was pulling out of the project
Fine
None of Scott's movies are helping us
He isn't here
He makes everyone jump every time he feels like it
He doesn't do his job
So if people we employ aren't doing their jobs them we are not doing ours
We can't live like this
We know how to do this
I don't want to run the studio this way or said another way I don't want people running it for us
I'm ready to change
I'm not doing his for four more years
This way
Let's see what it feels
( I'm talking to myself because I know if I don't change you guys can't )
So fine
You now have 4 million dollars to offset the overage in deV spending
Let them go
Let them all go
None of Thoes movies are gonna make us a penny
Neil blomcamp tells us a shot of chappie to end the movie will cost a million dollars
Pass
Wrap that one too
What's wrong with that movie was wrong with the script as well
Justin linn and Doug Liman are looking for movies for the summer
Maybe we should replace aeth Gordon
I think part of our problem is can't cast the movie
I don't really want to make a 100 million dollar action movie with someone who isn't an action director
We hired drew Goddard to write and direct a sinister six movie
Now it's a Spiderman movie
I love drew
I would not have hired him to direct the next spuserman movie after the Marc Webb experience
Let's do the focused thing in 5th wave
Let's not put gRimsby out till it's good
Let's not move Ricky and the flash cuz Tim wants too
Let's look at the numbers for next year and see what these movies can really do and take our lumps now
(Cc is not gonna do 100..... That's what it's in for)
Let's get out of Popeye and let's the consequences happen
But here we are
I could go on and on
But you get the gist of it
Maybe it's the rain
I feel better

Amy

Seems like Drew will not be Sony's pick either!!

I don't really want to make a 100 million dollar action movie with someone who isn't an action director
We hired drew Goddard to write and direct a sinister six movie
Now it's a Spiderman movie
I love drew
I would not have hired him to direct the next spuserman movie after the Marc Webb experience


It seems like she's saying that she loves Drew BUT because its no longer a Sinister 6 movie, but a Spider-Man movie, he is no longer a good fit. "I would not have hired him to direct the next spuserman movie after the Marc Webb experience". I think she wants a "action director", something Drew isn't considering his inexperience.

She also says:
Justin linn and Doug Liman are looking for movies for the summer
Maybe we should replace aeth Gordon


aeth Gordon -> Drew Goddard considering what she goes on to talk about. She seems like she wants to REPLACE him with an action director ala Justin Lin or Doug Liman.

Obviously Lin will be tied by Star Trek, and but Liman would be good (Edge of Tomorrow is great). Would like a director with more experience in comedy though.
 
I wouldn't assume anything from these emails.
 
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I wouldn't have hired him for the next spuserman movie, either tbh.
 
I don't believe Sony isn't making any money off of Spider-Man being in Civil War. He's gonna be the best part of the movie for fans.

The final deal that was reported had Marvel fully financing the films with Spidey guest appearances and Sony fully financing the films that star Spidey. Sony's money is coming from having an invigorated Wall-Crawler and the ability to borrow star characters from the MCU.
 
Kevin Feige had a lot of good points
 
All Kevin Feige points are marvelous points.
 
On Nov 13, 2014, at 10:25 PM, "Pascal, Amy" <[email protected]> wrote:

Scores same as last time and
Way way worse in ny
It's a wrap
There is no more to do
Cameron never really changed anything
People don't like people in movies who flirt with married people or married people who flirt
The satellite makes no sense
The gate makes no sense
I'm never starting a movie again when the script is ridiculous
And we al know it
I don't care how much I love the director and the actors
It never
Not even once
ever works

As much as I want movies
This is way worse
At least the marketing departments at both studios have something to sell like looks big and glossy
We have this movie in for a lot of dough and we better look at that
Scott didn't once go to the set
Or help us in the editing room
Or fix the script

We got positioned on jobs
Danny wants mf
Danny wants Cali
Danny wants his rehearsal period
We got totally positioned because the actor we didn't want has another movie he has to do so we are rushing into production with an actor we don't want and have no financing
Mrc passed
Megan passed
Village road show passed
Lone star will probably pass
New regency passed ( tonight
)I love the script but I can't do this to the company
We should figure out if we can stomach giving it to them in ta
Tomorrow for a week with mf at 33.4
I was told by a birdie that searchlight would pass
But then the person who told me that send maybe they wouldn't
I also found out that when we were trying to make Fincher deal it was sent around to every studio and people even passed in that
We are getting totally positioned in the Aaron stuff
He is broke
He wants to get paid
We paid him his insane fee on flashboys
When the poker movie came around we didn't want to not be in Aaron business so we wanted that too
After social network jobs and flashboys Aaron and mark took the project to the town on the "pretense" that we don't have money
They went to every single studio
Not just Donna and stacey ( not real meetings blah blah)
I don't care if Aaron is sleeping with the girl or not
I don't care if it becomes a beat seller
They are treating us like ****
He wants to write them together or poker movie first
We waited for him to write jobs for 3 years ( 2 anyway)
When mike told them we wanted him to write flashboys first ( how long ago did they make the deal) ari sent an email saying he was pulling out of the project
Fine
None of Scott's movies are helping us
He isn't here
He makes everyone jump every time he feels like it
He doesn't do his job
So if people we employ aren't doing their jobs them we are not doing ours
We can't live like this
We know how to do this
I don't want to run the studio this way or said another way I don't want people running it for us
I'm ready to change
I'm not doing his for four more years
This way
Let's see what it feels
( I'm talking to myself because I know if I don't change you guys can't )
So fine
You now have 4 million dollars to offset the overage in deV spending
Let them go
Let them all go
None of Thoes movies are gonna make us a penny
Neil blomcamp tells us a shot of chappie to end the movie will cost a million dollars
Pass
Wrap that one too
What's wrong with that movie was wrong with the script as well
Justin linn and Doug Liman are looking for movies for the summer
Maybe we should replace aeth Gordon
I think part of our problem is can't cast the movie
I don't really want to make a 100 million dollar action movie with someone who isn't an action director
We hired drew Goddard to write and direct a sinister six movie
Now it's a Spiderman movie
I love drew
I would not have hired him to direct the next spuserman movie after the Marc Webb experience
Let's do the focused thing in 5th wave
Let's not put gRimsby out till it's good
Let's not move Ricky and the flash cuz Tim wants too
Let's look at the numbers for next year and see what these movies can really do and take our lumps now
(Cc is not gonna do 100..... That's what it's in for)
Let's get out of Popeye and let's the consequences happen
But here we are
I could go on and on
But you get the gist of it
Maybe it's the rain
I feel better

Amy

Seems like Drew will not be Sony's pick either!!

I don't really want to make a 100 million dollar action movie with someone who isn't an action director
We hired drew Goddard to write and direct a sinister six movie
Now it's a Spiderman movie
I love drew
I would not have hired him to direct the next spuserman movie after the Marc Webb experience


It seems like she's saying that she loves Drew BUT because its no longer a Sinister 6 movie, but a Spider-Man movie, he is no longer a good fit. "I would not have hired him to direct the next spuserman movie after the Marc Webb experience". I think she wants a "action director", something Drew isn't considering his inexperience.

She also says:
Justin linn and Doug Liman are looking for movies for the summer
Maybe we should replace aeth Gordon


aeth Gordon -> Drew Goddard considering what she goes on to talk about. She seems like she wants to REPLACE him with an action director ala Justin Lin or Doug Liman.

Obviously Lin will be tied by Star Trek, and but Liman would be good (Edge of Tomorrow is great). Would like a director with more experience in comedy though.

She means SETH Gordon, the guy they have hired to adapt Uncharted, the videogame that has the bounty hunter Nathan Drake as the protagonist.
 
Hmmm....

Spider-Man is an action movie, but S6 is what, a 2 1/2 hour character study?

Pascal is no longer running things at Sony and after Feige's recent comments, Marvel is clearly steering the ship creatively.
 
Hmmm....

Spider-Man is an action movie, but S6 is what, a 2 1/2 hour character study?

Pascal is no longer running things at Sony and after Feige's recent comments, Marvel is clearly steering the ship creatively.

I don't know. From the Sony emails, Drew Goddard relationship with Marvel TV arm wasn't good. In fact, it was awful. He didn't leave Marvel in good terms. I don't know if he would be the guy that they would be going for Spider-Man. MAYBE if they get to pair him up with Whedon, but Whedon doesn't seem too keen on working anything Marvel's scale right now.
 
From another email chain, here is what Isaac "Ike" Perlmutter Marvel's CEO say about Drew to Amy:

FW: Drew Goddard - Daredevil 04 11 14
Email-ID 29008
Date 2014-04-15 17:08:10
From [email protected]
To [email protected]
FW: Drew Goddard - Daredevil 04 11 14
Resending.



From: IP
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 4:26 PM
To: 'Pascal, Amy ([email protected])'
Subject: Drew Goddard - Daredevil 04 11 14
Importance: High



Amy,



Since we spoke on Wednesday, the problem we are having with Drew Goddard is getting even worse.



As you can see from the e-mail below, he is not negotiating and is leaving us no choice but to fight with him.



We should both be very concerned about this situation.



Best,



Ike



From: Loeb, Jeph
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 3:38 PM
To: IP
Cc: Buckley, Dan; Loeb, Jeph
Subject: Drew Goddard - Daredevil 04 11 14
Importance: High



Ike:

Drew Goddard's agent and lawyer called David Galluzzi this morning.

They rejected our proposal and did not counter.

They told David that they will be advising their client not to show up to work on Monday as well as not
provide Tier One services.

It looks like they are giving us no choice but to litigate this matter.

Please advise,

Jeph

Jeph Loeb &#8211; EVP &#8211; Head of Television | Marvel Television, Inc 623 Circle 7 Drive | Glendale, CA 91201| 818.931.8010 direct |www.marvel.com <http://www.marvel.com/>

So there's that. Seriously not sure if Marvel would want to work with Goddard again. Which is kinda sad because other than his idiotic Sinister Six notes, I could see him been a great asset within the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Not sure what will come out of this, but I'd say that Drew Goddard endeavor with Marvel since Daredevil is complicated at best.
 
I don't know. From the Sony emails, Drew Goddard relationship with Marvel TV arm wasn't good. In fact, it was awful. He didn't leave Marvel in good terms. I don't know if he would be the guy that they would be going for Spider-Man. MAYBE if they get to pair him up with Whedon, but Whedon doesn't seem too keen on working anything Marvel's scale right now.


Yeah, it's clear from interviews Joss is burnt out. I doubt he'd be doing anything on this....As for Drew, it seems he may have burned a few bridges with Ike & crew, so who knows? I think he'd be GREAT for this and hope he gets the gig. I just don't see any "big" names touching this at the moment, but we'll see.
 
I don't know. From the Sony emails, Drew Goddard relationship with Marvel TV arm wasn't good. In fact, it was awful. He didn't leave Marvel in good terms. I don't know if he would be the guy that they would be going for Spider-Man. MAYBE if they get to pair him up with Whedon, but Whedon doesn't seem too keen on working anything Marvel's scale right now.

If it got to the point that they had threaten litigation, then goddard definitely isnt their top candidate to helm the new spidey. I think Marvel can find someone better than goddard to helm it
 
Holy **** I've opened pandora's box. This is SERIOUSLY huge.
 
Dudes. DUDES. WTF. I. Have. Just. Found. I can't share, because this WOULD get me into trouble. But. HOLY... man. Let me do some digging.
 
I don't know. From the Sony emails, Drew Goddard relationship with Marvel TV arm wasn't good. In fact, it was awful. He didn't leave Marvel in good terms. I don't know if he would be the guy that they would be going for Spider-Man. MAYBE if they get to pair him up with Whedon, but Whedon doesn't seem too keen on working anything Marvel's scale right now.
Now you know why I hated Goddard.
 
Dudes. DUDES. WTF. I. Have. Just. Found. I can't share, because this WOULD get me into trouble. But. HOLY... man. Let me do some digging.

If its in the emails what are you scared of?
 

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