Spider-Man faces Venom twice ?

[Keyan Farlander]

There's one thing I don't really understand about ANY Venom facing (and especially the Battle Royale)... how the hell Peter will get a.... full Spider-Man suit? I mean, how much time passes between the moment when Pete rips off the Symbiote and Battle Royale? Not much, I presume. And yet, Peter acquires a new Spider-Man suit.

IMHO, it would be much cooler if Peter was going to face Venom in his street clothes. I mean, come on - the symbiote takes over Pete's spidey suit, then Peter rips it, he's left without suit, and then is forced to battle Venom. Without the suit. Yeah, I know we already have a without-a-suit battle (Peter vs. Harry) but I just think that Peter vs. Venom would be much more logical if he hadn't any Spider-Man suit...

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

There's one thing I don't really understand about ANY Venom facing (and especially the Battle Royale)... how the hell Peter will get a.... full Spider-Man suit? I mean, how much time passes between the moment when Pete rips off the Symbiote and Battle Royale? Not much, I presume. And yet, Peter acquires a new Spider-Man suit.

IMHO, it would be much cooler if Peter was going to face Venom in his street clothes. I mean, come on - the symbiote takes over Pete's spidey suit, then Peter rips it, he's left without suit, and then is forced to battle Venom. Without the suit. Yeah, I know we already have a without-a-suit battle (Peter vs. Harry) but I just think that Peter vs. Venom would be much more logical if he hadn't any Spider-Man suit...

well peter has spare spidey suits so yes it does make sense. as for not alot of time passing in between, I think there will be a scene with peter and venom but I don't really know which one but I'm preety sure from reports, set photos, set videos that it will be a good one in my opinion.

 

[chaseter]

Ok kiddies, here is a new topic. How do y'all think Raimi will evolve Eddie/Venom. I mean we know Eddie gets his powers at the church and then turns into Venom. I don't think Raimi will just have loser Eddie Brock suddenly become the ultimate power of Venom. Will Raimi show Topher learning how to shoot black webs? Will Topher slowly learn to use his powers or quickly? I mean Raimi has to give back story to everyone...will he do the same for Venom? I think Raimi will show Venom growing in power and learning how to use it much like Tobey did in SM1. I just think it will be rather quicker.

 

[chaseter]

well peter has spare spidey suits so yes it does make sense. as for not alot of time passing in between, I think there will be a scene with peter and venom but I don't really know which one but I'm preety sure from reports, set photos, set videos that it will be a good one in my opinion.

We don't know that and we deffinitely haven't seen it yet. As for as we know, from the closet scene in SM2, Peter only has one as well as the waching machine scene in SM2...he was only washing one costume.

 

[Mr Jide]

There's one thing I don't really understand about ANY Venom facing (and especially the Battle Royale)... how the hell Peter will get a.... full Spider-Man suit? I mean, how much time passes between the moment when Pete rips off the Symbiote and Battle Royale? Not much, I presume. And yet, Peter acquires a new Spider-Man suit.

IMHO, it would be much cooler if Peter was going to face Venom in his street clothes. I mean, come on - the symbiote takes over Pete's spidey suit, then Peter rips it, he's left without suit, and then is forced to battle Venom. Without the suit. Yeah, I know we already have a without-a-suit battle (Peter vs. Harry) but I just think that Peter vs. Venom would be much more logical if he hadn't any Spider-Man suit...

Most likely a plot hole that people dont even bother about concerning themselves with anymore. Look at sm2 when he goes into the alley and changes into his costume to deliver the pizzas. Where were his civvies? He was wearing them when he came out of the closet (no gay jokes please) and he wasn't carrying them whilst he was swinging around town. Its just one of those things that you just have to ignore.

Also, we have spidey fighting in his civvies agains Harry and we dont want to over do it now do we. This is spider-man not Peter Parker fights in normal clothes.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Ok kiddies, here is a new topic. How do y'all think Raimi will evolve Eddie/Venom. I mean we know Eddie gets his powers at the church and then turns into Venom. I don't think Raimi will just have loser Eddie Brock suddenly become the ultimate power of Venom. Will Raimi show Topher learning how to shoot black webs? Will Topher slowly learn to use his powers or quickly? I mean Raimi has to give back story to everyone...will he do the same for Venom? I think Raimi will show Venom growing in power and learning how to use it much like Tobey did in SM1. I just think it will be rather quicker.

I'm thinking sam will have venom pubch something in the church to find out how much strength he has. then he would leave the church and probably web-swing away or something. either that or venom will test his new powers outside the church, but the reason I think it's inside the church is because venom probably wouldn't go outside just to test his powers. I mean after all once he turns into venom, it's most likley he's going to scare the preists out of the church and then maybe he will jump on the walls and throw stuff around.

 

[Eggyman]

I'm thinking sam will have venom pubch something in the church to find out how much strength he has. then he would leave the church and probably web-swing away or something. either that or venom will test his new powers outside the church, but the reason I think it's inside the church is because venom probably wouldn't go outside just to test his powers. I mean after all once he turns into venom, it's most likley he's going to scare the preists out of the church and then maybe he will jump on the walls and throw stuff around.

RAOTFLMMFAO That is my favourite post by you ever dude.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

RAOTFLMMFAO That is my favourite post by you ever dude.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

 

[Eggyman]

Tis a good thing my young padawan

 

[shigsy2003]

While it would be cool to have Venon batter an unprepared Peter in the church I can't see it happening. I think we need to see some shots of Eddie adjusting to the symbiote, not in a way Doc Ock does with his arms but in an acceptence and evil way. Eddie now knowing he has what he needs to take down Peter..and remember Eddie should be thinking that God gave him this new power since he requested God to kill Parker. Justifying in his head an anything goes stance. Venom should be completely merciless to Peter and anyone involved with him, God gave him this power to do what Eddie can't so NO reforming should take place (I would actually prefer him to die than become good).

I was thinking the other that the first time I see this film I won't really be able to concentrate on the story. All I care about seeing is Venom and that's all I will be focusing on. Luckily though I am seeing this film about five or so times...C.A.N.N.O.T W.A.I.T

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Tis a good thing my young padawan

thank you.

 

[rockportspidey]

There's one thing I don't really understand about ANY Venom facing (and especially the Battle Royale)... how the hell Peter will get a.... full Spider-Man suit? I mean, how much time passes between the moment when Pete rips off the Symbiote and Battle Royale? Not much, I presume. And yet, Peter acquires a new Spider-Man suit.

IMHO, it would be much cooler if Peter was going to face Venom in his street clothes. I mean, come on - the symbiote takes over Pete's spidey suit, then Peter rips it, he's left without suit, and then is forced to battle Venom. Without the suit. Yeah, I know we already have a without-a-suit battle (Peter vs. Harry) but I just think that Peter vs. Venom would be much more logical if he hadn't any Spider-Man suit...

I don't know about Pete facing Venom without his suit, but I find it a little hard to believe that Pete keeps 6 or 7 spare suits hanging around his ****ty apartment. This isn't like the Batcave where he's got room for stuff, haha.

And Chaseter, I'd definitely love to see Eddie toying with his new abilities, and hopefully the movie has enough time to see it. But I don't think it will happen, especially if they want to keep this movie under the 2 1/2 hour mark.

And General Farlander, thanks for your help in the Yuuzhan Vong liberation!

 

[shigsy2003]

I don't know about Pete facing Venom without his suit, but I find it a little hard to believe that Pete keeps 6 or 7 spare suits hanging around his ****ty apartment. This isn't like the Batcave where he's got room for stuff, haha.

Well as we have seen from Spidey 2 he only has one suit.

Sure he may have made some more but as the films like to point out repeatedly Pete is strapped for cash.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I don't know about Pete facing Venom without his suit, but I find it a little hard to believe that Pete keeps 6 or 7 spare suits hanging around his ****ty apartment. This isn't like the Batcave where he's got room for stuff, haha.

And Chaseter, I'd definitely love to see Eddie toying with his new abilities, and hopefully the movie has enough time to see it. But I don't think it will happen, especially if they want to keep this movie under the 2 1/2 hour mark.

And General Farlander, thanks for your help in the Yuuzhan Vong liberation!

It's not hard to belive if you think about it because peter probably doesn't see mj until the construction site so she probably didn't know peter was going to rip the symbiote off so there was no way she would make another suit for him like she does in the comics. Peter wouldn't have time to make another suit himself because mj has already been kidnapped. the only other option is spares and he might have more than one closet in his room, either that or he keeps his spare suits some place else in his apartment.

 

[rockportspidey]

I say let him wear his costume from his match with Bonesaw

 

[Won '08]

Doesn't make sense for Parker to confront Venom only once.

 

[Keyan Farlander]

Yeah. I think that Peter must at least SEE Venom before the Battle Royale itself...

And General Farlander, thanks for your help in the Yuuzhan Vong liberation!

Really? I never have read any post-ROTJ book, I didn't know that the alter-ego from the X-Wing game and a small book (that's not even a book... I remember reading this stuff... "Farlander's Papers" or how it was called) would do something, uhm... let's say, helpful to the galaxy in the EU Anyway, I think I got a little bit off topic here....

 

[Infinity9999x]

Doesn't make sense for Parker to confront Venom only once.

That's what I was going to say, because if he confronts him only once the "I can't stop it alone" comment doesn't make sense. How would he know he can't beat Venom alone if he hasn't fought him yet? I'm thinking we may see a quick 1st round fight (maybe Pete trying to protect MJ but getting the bejeesus beat out of him and being left unconcious as Venom swings away) then going to Harry for help.

 

[rockportspidey]

Really? I never have read any post-ROTJ book, I didn't know that the alter-ego from the X-Wing game and a small book (that's not even a book... I remember reading this stuff... "Farlander's Papers" or how it was called) would do something, uhm... let's say, helpful to the galaxy in the EU Anyway, I think I got a little bit off topic here....

lol, yeah. Farlander kind of turned out to be like Kyle Katarn from the Jedi Knight PC games. Here's a link to see what else Farlander has been in:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Keyan_Farlander

 

[rockportspidey]

That's what I was going to say, because if he confronts him only once the "I can't stop it alone" comment doesn't make sense. How would he know he can't beat Venom alone if he hasn't fought him yet? I'm thinking we may see a quick 1st round fight (maybe Pete trying to protect MJ but getting the bejeesus beat out of him and being left unconcious as Venom swings away) then going to Harry for help.

Yeah he's definitely going to fight him more than once. Unless he's asking Harry to help him fight Sandman which I seriously doubt.

 

[Spade]

I don't think Raimi will just have loser Eddie Brock suddenly become the ultimate power of Venom.

Well, that's debateable. Brock and the symbiote are bonded on a much closer level than Peter had. Brock doesn't resist it nor does he have the moral gumption to impede it from fully bonding with him. Thus, there really isn't a need to show progression beforehand. Perhaps in the fight where Spider-Man has the seasoned power usage advantage and Brock is the neophyte still getting used to it, but not in a break in the film like when Peter first started learning the ropes in SM1.

Will Raimi show Topher learning how to shoot black webs?

I feel it'll be instinctive. Everything else like the wall adhesion seems to be as well. Plus, it seems to be compulsive. There's no real rhyme or reason for all the webbing we see in the site they fight in. It's less like Venom is trying to gain an advantage and more like he's feng shui-ing the site (however odd that sounds). I think it would save time to just say that the symbiote gives him all the abilities and he uses the extra ones it urges him to use since there's a closer bond between the two (such as the claws, which aren't part of Peter's powers).

Will Topher slowly learn to use his powers or quickly? I mean Raimi has to give back story to everyone...will he do the same for Venom? I think Raimi will show Venom growing in power and learning how to use it much like Tobey did in SM1. I just think it will be rather quicker.

Well, the others had unique powers. Venom is basically an amalgram of Peter's powers with the added kick of some tricks up his sleeve since he can now utilize the host bond much easier than Peter (who apparently resists fully becoming Venom in the rent scene). Brock has been taking pictures and has a general idea of what Spider-Man's powers are as well as how he uses them. There really isn't a need to learn what in the movieverse is public knowledge.

 

[Mr Jide]

Brock doesn't have to do anything. The symbiot is attributed with an augmented ability, duplicating spidey's powers soley because it bonded with Pete. So, its the symbiot that powers Brock with the automatic no-how. Brock doesn't realy need to practise or test out his powers as some have suggested.

 

[Carnotaur3]

That's what I was going to say, because if he confronts him only once the "I can't stop it alone" comment doesn't make sense. How would he know he can't beat Venom alone if he hasn't fought him yet? I'm thinking we may see a quick 1st round fight (maybe Pete trying to protect MJ but getting the bejeesus beat out of him and being left unconcious as Venom swings away) then going to Harry for help.

It's possible that like in the Cartoon. The symbiote comes alive and they kind of fight at the Bell tower. Naked Peter vs. Symbiote. hehe

And then the symbiote falls, and Peter watches it. And then Eddie sees Peter.

"Parker?"

Peter watches as Venom is born. Peter already knows what anger lies in Eddie. He knows that his emotions coupled with the symbiote would be disasterous.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Well, that's debateable. Brock and the symbiote are bonded on a much closer level than Peter had. Brock doesn't resist it nor does he have the moral gumption to impede it from fully bonding with him. Thus, there really isn't a need to show progression beforehand. Perhaps in the fight where Spider-Man has the seasoned power usage advantage and Brock is the neophyte still getting used to it, but not in a break in the film like when Peter first started learning the ropes in SM1.

exactly, I myself believe that the symbiote mimiced peters powers just like it did with peters suit which makes sense because the symbiote can mimic anything. which is why I think their won't be alot of time in between transforming into venom and the battle royal. only things that are suppose to happen is venom kidnapping mj and peter asking harry for help. speaking of venom knowing the powers, the knowledge the symbiote already had even befor it bonded, it lets brock know so that brock is prepared for anything that ius coming for him or anybody that goes up against him so that brock doesn't have to go through all of that training and such.

Originally Posted by Infinity9999x
That's what I was going to say, because if he confronts him only once the "I can't stop it alone" comment doesn't make sense. How would he know he can't beat Venom alone if he hasn't fought him yet? I'm thinking we may see a quick 1st round fight (maybe Pete trying to protect MJ but getting the bejeesus beat out of him and being left unconcious as Venom swings away) then going to Harry for help.

well like I have said befor. he could have already tried to stop venom when he was kidnapping mj but venom knocks him out, makes sense doesn't it?

 

[Mr. Socko]

Well one things for sure, we're all going to be blow if it's true.