Homecoming "Spider-Man Summit" Thread

[SpideyK]

Garfield is gone with or without Marvel. Sony is rebooting regardless.

If Garfield is indeed gone, Sony is kind of screwed.

Continuing the ASM franchise without any of the old leads? Good luck. Rebooting with a new franchise again? They'll be god damn crucified.

Making a deal with Marvel is the best thing for everyone. It really is.

 

[Dr. Evil]

My MCU references in any Marvel Studios Spiderman movie:

- Peter works at the Daily Bugle and one of his co-workers is Christine Everhart (Iron Man and Iron Man 2)
- Peter and/or Aunt May watch on TV a news report about President Ellis (Iron Man 3) showing up at the United Nations.
- Norman Osbourne telling the world that he's better than Tony Stark.
- At the University Library, Peter sees a book about the Howling Commandoes.
- Kingpin makes an appearance, either as a main villain or in a cameo role to set up a future showdown with Spider-Man.
- One of the professors at the University he goes to is now a competent Erik Selvig. He does not have any classes with Selvig though.

An MCU Spiderman film can work using minor MCU characters and references.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

If a Marvel Spidey movie is made, I don't expect any cameos from any major MCU characters...at least not during the movie. Instead, my suggestion has always been to bring back minor MCU characters. My ideas were to include Peter working at the Daily Bugle and one of his co-workers is Christine Everhart and Peter watching on TV a news report of President Matthew Ellis (from Iron Man 3) attending a meeting at the United Nations. No need to force Tony Stark (although you could directly mention him and/or his company) or any of the major players there. Or Peter could even be at the University library and one of the books he passes by is "The Adventures of the Howling Commandoes" and this picture is on the cover:

Or course, since you don't like anything in the MCU outside of Guardians of the Galaxy, you would probably be enraged if these minor MCU characters showed up anyways.

References and Easter eggs are fun. But never affect the quality, neither would interactions though they like IM2 could derail things. 9/10 I'd rather see Spidey interact with someone from his vast supporting character gallery than a non-Spidey character

I like like Thor, the first movie. Loved how the romance was handled and Loki, sadly those things changed for future movies, Loki became hammy and the Thor/Jane relationship was ruined by his appearance in Avengers imo.
I liked Iron Man, Stark since IM2 onward lost the balance of sarcasm and endearing quality and became too sarcastic for me. I like Cap in WWII and wanted a second movie but that wasn't on the cards.

In short I used to like them, then they changed. Stark became RDJ, The Thor movies screwed the pooch sadly and I'm not a fan of Cap in the modern day so that's 3/4 down with only Guardians left until the new slate happens.

 

[Dr. Evil]

References and Easter eggs are fun. But never affect the quality, neither would interactions. 9/10 I'd rather see Spidey interact with someone from his vast supporting character gallery than a non-Spidey character.

Kingpin is the only major MCU character who should appear in the MCU Spiderman movie. Pepper the film with references and minor characters from the MCU. This way Spidey exists in the same universe, but not in the same way as Cap, Stark or Thor.

It would be like the Netflix series. I expect a bunch of MCU easter eggs and references, but not major characters.

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

The Fantastic Four guest starred in the first issue of The Amazing Spider-Man, existing in a universe with no other superheroes is the deviation.

 

[Zarex]

Kingpin is the only major MCU character who should appear in the MCU Spiderman movie. Pepper the film with references and minor characters from the MCU. This way Spidey exists in the same universe, but not in the same way as Cap, Stark or Thor.

It would be like the Netflix series. I expect a bunch of MCU easter eggs and references, but not major characters.

Spidey is a perfect fit for the characters in the Netflix shows. I think that "Spider-man and the Defenders" could do a billion plus at the box office.

Solo Spidey's great, but I like the Marvel Team Up version even better.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

The Fantastic Four guest starred in the first issue of The Amazing Spider-Man, existing in a universe with no other superheroes is the deviation.

I'm not disputing that Spidey appears on teams and with stories with other characters. But his best stories are him, his supporting characters and his vast villain gallery.

I just want a series of Spider-Man movies about that. I don't much care for how it sets up other movies about other characters or how the post-credit scene affects the universe or desire to see him interact with Stark for the cool factor or join teams.

People seem to care more about those latter things than the former. That's fine for them but for me I just want the former

 

[First Avenger]

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[Angryfantasyfan]

I'm not disputing that Spidey appears on teams and with stories with other characters. But his best stories are him, his supporting characters and his vast villain gallery.

I just want a series of Spider-Man movies about that. I don't much care for how it sets up other movies about other characters or how the post-credit scene affects the universe or desire to see him interact with Stark for the cool factor or join teams.

Isn't that what all five Spider-Man movies have been?

 

[Moridin]

They want someone cheap who will do whatever they say. A Marc Webb, for example.

Rather they want someone with talent & passion. An A-list director is totally unnecessary when there's so much talent out there. And Marvel have done pretty good so far in finding lesser known talent that matches the Hero.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Isn't that what all five Spider-Man movies have been?

Of course it is. It has nothing to do with team-ups or solo Spidey stories. CWR just doesn't want Spidey in the MCU because he knows the likelihood of it being a massive success is almost guaranteed and that irks him on a fundamental level.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Isn't that what all five Spider-Man movies have been?

Pretty much, and i've like most of them.

I'd like a continuing story arc running through the movies. Like a Symbiote trilogy with Venom and Carnage then a Goblin trilogy with Green and Hobgoblin, then a crime war one with Hammerhead and Mr Negative and Silvermane ect...

 

[Johnny-Oh]

If Garfield is indeed gone, Sony is kind of screwed.

Continuing the ASM franchise without any of the old leads? Good luck. Rebooting with a new franchise again? They'll be god damn crucified.

Making a deal with Marvel is the best thing for everyone. It really is.

The GA doesn't care about Andrew or his storyline, they went to see the movies because they care about Spidey. A reboot from either studio is better than continuing the TASM franchise.

 

[Flint Marko]

I'm not disputing that Spidey appears on teams and with stories with other characters. But his best stories are him, his supporting characters and his vast villain gallery.

I just want a series of Spider-Man movies about that. I don't much care for how it sets up other movies about other characters or how the post-credit scene affects the universe or desire to see him interact with Stark for the cool factor or join teams.

People seem to care more about those latter things than the former. That's fine for them but for me I just want the former

I'd bet my bottom dollar that if fox and Sony made a joint announcement tomorrow letting the world know they are going to join together the Spidey, X-men, and FF universe you'd be jumping for joy.
It has nothing to do with spider-man in a shared universe and everything to do with which universe he's probably gonna join.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

It seems like CBM got their hands on more leaked documents.



I don't think 25% will be good enough for Marvel. I think the deal will be closer to that 60/40 deal being bandied about.

Yeah, I don't like the sound of that deal. Hopefully It's an older deal that Marvel rejected. It's funny I've heard different reports, one where Marvel said no to the deal, one where Sony said no to the deal.

I much prefer the 60/40 deal, where Marvel has creative control, Spidey would appear in other Marvel films (notably Civil War & Infinity War) and a co-produced trilogy (again with Marvel Studios in creative control).

The other deal sounds like Marvel is giving up too much unessarily (seriously, at this point, I think Marvel Studios/Disney are holding all the cards).

The one aspect of interest was Drew Goddard. He was involved with the Sinister Six mess. I've said just let Goddard work on a proper rebooted (into the MCU) Spider-Man movie. Get Joss Whedon in to help and you've sweetened the deal!

 

[spider-neil]

Rather they want someone with talent & passion. An A-list director is totally unnecessary when there's so much talent out there. And Marvel have done pretty good so far in finding lesser known talent that matches the Hero.

Marvel have been able to gamble on lessor known directors with varying results. This being a second reboot, the time for gambling is over and the movie needs experienced hands. Sony went with a relative novice and walked all over him. Spider-Man needs an experienced director with a proven track record to put their stamp on the franchise.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

I'd like to incorporate some of the good parts of The Ultimate Spider-Man comic and show into the movie.

Younger heroes attending Midtown before they are heroes. Like Amadeus Cho Kamala Khan Kong Sam Alexander etc. Not as heroes but as students. Also a super powered girlfriend instead of a damsel in distress again.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

I'm not disputing that Spidey appears on teams and with stories with other characters. But his best stories are him, his supporting characters and his vast villain gallery.

I just want a series of Spider-Man movies about that. I don't much care for how it sets up other movies about other characters or how the post-credit scene affects the universe or desire to see him interact with Stark for the cool factor or join teams.

People seem to care more about those latter things than the former. That's fine for them but for me I just want the former

The cross over stuff is big with me (I'd love to see him interact with RDJ), but a bigger part of me wants better Spider-Man movies. I want him done right! From what I've seen of the two studios, I think Marvel Studios gives us a much better chance of getting that.

But, speaking of cross over, it would be great if the Kingpin was available to the Spider-Man franchise.

Marvel have been able to gamble on lessor known directors with varying results. This being a second reboot, the time for gambling is over and the movie needs experienced hands. Sony went with a relative novice and walked all over him. Spider-Man needs an experienced director with a proven track record to put their stamp on the franchise.

I vote Joss Whedon! t:

 

[psylockolussus]

Is Andrew Garfield really done? Geez, just move on with TASM3 and bring back Andrew Garfield and just deliver a good film.

 

[spider-neil]

The cross over stuff is big with me (I'd love to see him interact with RDJ), but a bigger part of me wants better Spider-Man movies. I want him done right! From what I've seen of the two studios, I think Marvel Studios gives us a much better chance of getting that.

But, speaking of cross over, it would be great if the Kingpin was available to the Spider-Man franchise.



I vote Joss Whedon! t:

Whedon (for me) is a TV director and his movies have a TV feel to them. I want a director that has movie sensibilities and has artistic vision rather than someone that simply points and shoots. A Fincher, a Del Toro, a Mendes, a director of that ilk.

 

[Flint Marko]

Is Andrew Garfield really done? Geez, just move on with TASM3 and bring back Andrew Garfield and just deliver a good film.

It's becoming more and more apparent that Sony isn't exactly in a position to deliver a good spider-man film.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

The GA doesn't care about Andrew or his storyline, they went to see the movies because they care about Spidey. A reboot from either studio is better than continuing the TASM franchise.

The series has many fans. There's no denying that

Is Andrew Garfield really done? Geez, just move on with TASM3 and bring back Andrew Garfield and just deliver a good film.

Hopefully we get a final ASM movie before Marvel gets him. Marvel have a slate and probably won't use him until the start of the next decade, Sony and Marvel should make a deal that let's Sony complete the trilogy in that spare time. It'd be a win for ASM fans and MCU fans would still be getting him after and it gives Andrew the chance to say goodbye to the role.

Win all around

 

[Whiskey Tango]

The series has many fans. Many love Andrew as Spider-Man, the movies and want more

They're in for a big disappointment.

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

I'd like to incorporate some of the good parts of The Ultimate Spider-Man comic and show into the movie.

Younger heroes attending Midtown before they are heroes. Like Amadeus Cho Kamala Khan Kong Sam Alexander etc. Not as heroes but as students. Also a super powered girlfriend instead of a damsel in distress again.

whether a character is a damsel in distress or not is based on writing.

 

[Flint Marko]

They're in for a big disappointment.

If they weren't already disappointed by that awful sequel.