Homecoming "Spider-Man Summit" Thread

[HarryOsborn]

Obviously Marvel and Disney want the deal to happen. It was Sony who walked away from the deal.

Sony want to sign off on casting that involve SM and supporting characters that would appear in a SM movie - What's wrong with that?

Sony want to sign off on decisions that involve Spider-Man - What's wrong with that?

Sony want to sign off on decisions that involve the Spider-Man - What's wrong with that?

Don't forget that Marvel have exec producers on Spider-Man movies and they (Sony) can't proceed unless Marvel sign off on them (like Spider-Man killing). If Marvel made good casting choices, made a kick arse costume and the script was strong, Sony would sign off on it. Why wouldn't they?

Marvel doesn't have execs anymore, their was a deal made several years ago that gave sony marvels small box office share- possibly explaining the post SM2 decline in quality.

 

[Green Goblin]

Do they really need to know why/where Spidey would be in Avengers 1? They never explained it in the comics and rarely in actual MCU films...

 

[Orba]

Disney needs to switch everything.

- Marvel Studio's Spider-Man or Spider-Man: Subtitle

- Young Spidey actor should be no more than 18. PP shouldn't be older than high school sophomore.

- Flex Spideys brain muscles when interacting with other Heroes

- Involve Bendis in pre production or script ideas

- Follow USM.. Pp working part time after school as a webmaster at the bugle instead of photography

- Focus on Kong Liz Flash etc as his supporting cast

- Bring in Gwynn or Mary Jane with the classmates but not as love interest

- Replace Kitty Pryde with a MCU equivalent hero to be Spider-Man love interest someone who can take care of herself.

- Spidey crimefighting with his gf would be a welcome change

- Replace Sinister Six with Thunderbolts led by Osborne. Have Osborne create Venom for that team. Phase IV

- Get JJJ/Bugle involved bashing Super Heroes except Cap

- Involve Jessica Drew instead whatever girl movie they have planned. Spider-Woman in the sequel

SO MANY POSSIBILITIES!! A young Spider-Man can lead the MCU way after RDJ leaves this is great for Disney

Another

Have Peter invent his webbing himself rather than having a poor teenager buying state of the art (and probably extremely expensive) materials bulk order.

 

[spider-neil]

All origin references like inventing webshooters or making the costume should be avoided like the plague. He just IS Spider-Man and has been for a while.

 

[HarryOsborn]

Start new in the new universe. You restore his mythos, his villains, and any other damage done. You start a new franchise with a kid, 5-6 films ala Harry Potter but done the Marvel Studios way. Clean slate, new universe.

Nah... I think the best course of action is to do a quasi-sequel within the reboot. Audiences have seen 2 (3 counting Franco) Green Goblins, Doc Ock, Sandman, The Lizard, Electro, Rhino, and Venom. They need to do a movie with an established Spider-Man, with an established rogues, Gwen still dead, with Mary Jane, and pickup in the middle of a new story. The audience doesn't need a new origin, or a bunch of new villain origins too. Also no more bs with Peters parents!

 

[Green Goblin]

Another

Have Peter invent his webbing himself rather than having a poor teenager buying state of the art (and probably extremely expensive) materials bulk order.

But for him to make the webbing will he still not have to buy the materials needed!?!?!?

 

[Micromind]

It would be interesting if WB/DC include Black Spider in Suicide Squad movie before Sony or Marvel gets Spider-Man back on screens !

 

[HarryOsborn]

Do they really need to know why/where Spidey would be in Avengers 1? They never explained it in the comics and rarely in actual MCU films...

Is everyone forgetting Spidey was NOT an avenger for decades, the reason being he was denied membership? Caps out there saving the world, iron man deals with terrorism and corporate integrity, Thor saves the nine realms, and hulk hides from the government. Spider-Man is the only one who deals with street level crime, he's a vigilante with a shakey reputation. Just say he wasn't considered for the initiative, maybe stark gets peter to join pro registration by promising him a spot on the team and pay, that would be a good way go introduce the character

 

[SpideyK]

He wasn't 20 he was 18. Hadn't started college yet.

He was about 18 in ASM1, dude.

ASM2 is set in 2014, making Peter at least 20 at the end.

 

[HarryOsborn]

But for him to make the webbing will he still not have to buy the materials needed!?!?!?

I hate when movies explain every little detail. Comics and novels do this to create a better feel of the universe, movies can do this with visuals as they don't rely nearly as much on imagination. He has webshooters, just leave it be, frankly the general audience doesn't care that much about them anyway.

 

[HarryOsborn]

He was about 18 in ASM1, dude.

ASM2 is set in 2014, making Peter at least 20 at the end.

He graduated high school in ASM2 and Gwen hadn't even left for college yet. They were 18 tops in ASM2 and 16-18 in ASM1. Movie time doesn't follow real world time.

 

[Green Goblin]

Nah... I think the best course of action is to do a quasi-sequel within the reboot. Audiences have seen 2 (3 counting Franco) Green Goblins, Doc Ock, Sandman, The Lizard, Electro, Rhino, and Venom. They need to do a movie with an established Spider-Man, with an established rogues, Gwen still dead, with Mary Jane, and pickup in the middle of a new story. The audience doesn't need a new origin, or a bunch of new villain origins too. Also no more bs with Peters parents!

Is that not basicly what ASM3 and beyond is? Didn't ASM2 end the Gwen Stacy story, Parents and the whole Parkers vs Oscorp thing? Didn't it open up Bugle, Sinister Six, Mary Jane, Venom, Spin Offs etc?

 

[Green Goblin]

He was about 18 in ASM1, dude.

ASM2 is set in 2014, making Peter at least 20 at the end.

No he wasn't. He was a senior in high school and the ending takes place during winter. That's 19 at most as he's only in his first year at Uni.

 

[SpideyK]

@GG, @HarryOsborn.

ASM1 was set in 2012. Peter graduates in the summer of 2013, then there's the 1 year jump right after, making it the year 2014. Peter is in college, and the year is 2014.

No need for confusion really.

 

[Green Goblin]

Is everyone forgetting Spidey was NOT an avenger for decades, the reason being he was denied membership? Caps out there saving the world, iron man deals with terrorism and corporate integrity, Thor saves the nine realms, and hulk hides from the government. Spider-Man is the only one who deals with street level crime, he's a vigilante with a shakey reputation. Just say he wasn't considered for the initiative, maybe stark gets peter to join pro registration by promising him a spot on the team and pay, that would be a good way go introduce the character

Does that then mean either a New Spider-Man or Garfield's reveals his identity? Have him join Captain America.

 

[HarryOsborn]

Is that not basicly what ASM3 and beyond is? Didn't ASM2 end the Gwen Stacy story, Parents and the whole Parkers vs Oscorp thing? Didn't it open up Bugle, Sinister Six, Mary Jane, Venom, Spin Offs etc?

Yeah, that's why I said quasi-sequel, within the reboot. Start with a new creative team, new cast, and set the film late in peters college career/early adulthood and don't retread any explores waters. Of course the story is not bound to continuity- ie. Norman could have killed Gwen, Rhino can be genetically altered, etc, but no new origins and no redoing Gwen or her death beyond possible flashbacks.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

About Spidey's whereabouts during Avengers 1, they could show a flashback in a Spidey movie where we see Spidey in one part of the city, doing his part fighting the invasion. Of course, at some point it ends as all the aliens shut down. After, the Avengers get all the credit and are hailed heroes. Spidey gets no notice (or JJJ asked if Spider-Man was in cahoots with the aliens in the Daily Bugle). That's typical Spider-Man/Peter Parker luck right there!

Edit: Not sure if you are talking about the Webb series, but I meant if Sony made the deal with Marvel Studios to incorporate a rebooted Spidey into the MCU.

 

[HarryOsborn]

@GG, @HarryOsborn.

ASM1 was set in 2012. Peter graduates in the summer of 2013, then there's the 1 year jump right after, making it the year 2014. Peter is in college, and the year is 2014.

No need for confusion really.

Where does it say 2012 in ASM, also what leads you to believe there was a one year jump? The fact Gwen hasn't gone to college implies it's summer of their graduating year, and the fact only 5 months lapse in the mourning montage while it looks like seasons change a full year shows time isn't a big issue for the film makers.

 

[HarryOsborn]

Does that then mean either a New Spider-Man or Garfield's reveals his identity? Have him join Captain America.

Yeah, I mean it might seem odd to start with that story, but keep in mind this is Spider-Man's 6th film in what would be 14 years. Batman has only had 3 in the past 14 and WB thinks audiences are familiar enough with the characters backstory to jump right into a seasoned Afleck inspired by the dark knight returns, this wouldn't be much different.

 

[Green Goblin]

Yeah, that's why I said quasi-sequel, within the reboot. Start with a new creative team, new cast, and set the film late in peters college career/early adulthood and don't retread any explores waters. Of course the story is not bound to continuity- ie. Norman could have killed Gwen, Rhino can be genetically altered, etc, but no new origins and no redoing Gwen or her death beyond possible flashbacks.

Late in College is a bad idea for ASM3. Advance gradually.

 

[Green Goblin]

Yeah, I mean it might seem odd to start with that story, but keep in mind this is Spider-Man's 6th film in what would be 14 years. Batman has only had 3 in the past 14 and WB thinks audiences are familiar enough with the characters backstory to jump right into a seasoned Afleck inspired by the dark knight returns, this wouldn't be much different.

But why would Spidey reveal his secret identity? It would take away from ASM3 and beyond.

 

[blake c]

Yeah I really dont Spider-man to reveal his identity. It'd cause a ton of problems. Not to mention him doing that in the comics caused OMD. Which I never want to see on the big screen. Ever.

 

[SpideyK]

Where does it say 2012 in ASM?

Also what leads you to believe there was a one year jump?

According to the storyboards, there is. A one year jump would be the only way to explain ASM2 being set in 2014. Without the jump, it wouldn't work.

The fact Gwen hasn't gone to college implies it's summer of their graduating year, and the fact only 5 months lapse in the mourning montage while it looks like seasons change a full year shows time isn't a big issue for the film makers.

I don't know why Gwen hasn't gone off to college yet, but quite evidently, Pete did.

So, either Pete did go to college, or he's lying to his aunt and stole a tea cup from ESU.

 

[HanShotFirst]

Okay I'm kinda out of the loop here so help me out. What is this "summit" even about?

 

[Visualiza]

Okay I'm kinda out of the loop here so help me out. What is this "summit" even about?

The powers that be at Sony are having a meeting of the minds, because they're unsure of what to do with Spider-Man going forward. All rumors though.