The Avengers Spidey in the Avengers?

Thank you guys. I thought I was alone who don't wanna have Spidey in the Avengers. He's awesome in his own movies and comics, don't need him in the MCU.
 
Thank you guys. I thought I was alone who don't wanna have Spidey in the Avengers. He's awesome in his own movies and comics, don't need him in the MCU.

They should settle this once and for all. After the credits of Spider Man, have Peter return home to the house in Queens, and find Samuel L. Jackson standing there in the kitchen.

"You think you're the only superhero in the world? Well, you are."

And then Jackson quietly walks out the back door.
 
Thank you guys. I thought I was alone who don't wanna have Spidey in the Avengers. He's awesome in his own movies and comics, don't need him in the MCU.

I just don't believe he really belongs in the Avengers is all. I mean he's a great character who works well with other members of the MCU but as an Avenger I find him awkward and out of place.
 
Interesting how anal some people here are about how much they don't want Spider-Man to be in the MCU, even with the suggestion that he doesn't have to join the Avengers or even have any contact with anyone, that isn't enough for them.
 
I honestly wouldn't mind Spider-Man having a presence in the MCU. The problem that's sticking out for me is the fact that Oscorp Tower isn't in The Avengers, and Stark Tower doesn't look like it's in the New York landscape of The Amazing Spider-Man, either.
 
GRangerPrimeNYC said:
Interesting how anal some people here are about how much they don't want Spider-Man to be in the MCU, even with the suggestion that he doesn't have to join the Avengers or even have any contact with anyone, that isn't enough for them.

What does the 'M' in MCU stand for?

Think about it.
 
You haven't even seen the movie yet, how do you know if Garfield is going to be a good Spidey or not.

True, I can't really judge Garfield until I have seen the film yet.
But from what I have seen so far, he seems too hipster-ish (skateboarding, graffiti tagging) to be the most faithful portrayal of PP onscreen. Not to mention he does not look as much like PP as say, Evans does as SR or Hemsworth does as Thor. Still, despite not looking exactly like his character, perhaps he will knock it out the park like Ruffalo did.
We'll see.

You're just like those people who said Evans would be a horrible Cap before they even saw the movie.

Actually I'm quite different to those people.
I had my fingers crossed for Evans once he was announced as being in contention because I could see that looks wise, physique wise and in terms of acting ability he would make the perfect Cap. Once it was announced he got the part I was pumped.
 
The only thing that really matters for casting Peter Parker is acting ability. The "look" of the character is the average joe. The actor doesn't need to be a physical embodiment of any particular Spidey artists represention. These films themselves are just other representations/interpretation of the source material.

Even that being said, from what I've seen so far I believe Garfield hits the nail square on the head regarding Parker's physique and demeanour.

Now to get back on track, if I were to hear Spidey being involved with the Avengers for a big enough threat by perhaps one of Spidey's villains capable of such a threat, I'd be stoked.
 
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I honestly wouldn't mind Spider-Man having a presence in the MCU. The problem that's sticking out for me is the fact that Oscorp Tower isn't in The Avengers, and Stark Tower doesn't look like it's in the New York landscape of The Amazing Spider-Man, either.

Yeah, that's a problem. In some of the trailers for The Amazing Spider-Man, you can see the MetLife Building in the skyline, even though Stark Tower replaces it in The Avengers. So TAS can take place before The Avengers when the MetLife building hasn't been turned into Stark Tower, like somewhere in 2007-2010. There's also the theory that TAS takes place in 2014 according to viral stuff.

Another problem is that Oscorp Tower seems to change its location from what I see from the trailers. It goes from being where the Hearst Building is, in the middle of Midtown, and even where Stark Tower was in The Avengers!!!

That rumor about them wanting to put Oscorp Tower in The Avengers would've destroyed all these problems about whether or not Spidey's in the MCU. Too bad they couldn't do it.

What does the 'M' in MCU stand for?

Think about it.

Marvel

Oh, I'm all for putting Spidey into the MCU, just in case you thought I wasn't. I just think people who are against it are crazy.
 
The thing is that everyone I know who isn't a huge comic book geek all were expecting--or perhaps hoping--Spidey would appear in the Avengers. It was as if they thought he was going to be some secret tucked away in the end credits or something. People still love Spider-Man, and want to see him with the other superheroes.

I think all the studio execs realize this. If it'll make money, they'll strike up a deal. Garfield seems more than willing to be in the Avengers, and as time passes more execs seem interested in the idea. I figure he'll be brought into the next film if TASM makes enough money. It'll make everyone copious amounts of money, after all.
 
Yeah, even in the comics I'm not wild about SM being part of any team, even the Avengers. There's no purpose to be served, from either a creative or business perspective, from having Spider Man enter the MCU.

That just leaves me scratching my head. I'm sure there's a few good arguments for both.

Personally I'd leave any possible inclusion of Spider-man until a third or later sequel (putting aside the arguments about whether it's possible or not), but if they did put him in it then I can't deny I'd want to see that film.
 
Marvel

Oh, I'm all for putting Spidey into the MCU, just in case you thought I wasn't. I just think people who are against it are crazy.

You entirely missed my point. Let me be more obvious. The MARVEL cinematic Universe. Made by Marvel. The Amazing Spiderman movie? Made by SONY.

The MCU is about everything Marvel. It's about things that belong in that universe. At the moment, Spider-man is NOT one of those things. Marvel have gone to a lot of effort to build a sustainable, cinematic universe with CONTINUITY.

Sony have gone to a minimum amount of effort in order to keep making money of the Spider-Man cash cow.

The two do NOT belong together in any way, shape or form, not until Marvel regains creative control of the license.

End of story.
 
You entirely missed my point. Let me be more obvious. The MARVEL cinematic Universe. Made by Marvel. The Amazing Spiderman movie? Made by SONY.

The MCU is about everything Marvel. It's about things that belong in that universe. At the moment, Spider-man is NOT one of those things. Marvel have gone to a lot of effort to build a sustainable, cinematic universe with CONTINUITY.

Sony have gone to a minimum amount of effort in order to keep making money of the Spider-Man cash cow.

The two do NOT belong together in any way, shape or form, not until Marvel regains creative control of the license.

End of story.

Relax, Wolvie. Not everyone is going to know off hand that Spidey isn't part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and the film rights are owned by Sony. Stressing the Marvel part is of course going to lead to confusion for some.

Also, I can't help but disagree with a couple of your opinions. I don't think it's fair to say that TASM has merely done the mininum to milk the cash cow. No arguments it's largely motivated (or at least that's what got the ball rolling) by keeping the franchise theirs for a while longer, but it does seem to dismiss that it actually looks like it might be a well made film (to a lot of people, the jury is still out for me though).

Plus I can't help but wonder how much continuity is a barrier if the producers were apparently keen on including Oscorp tower into the skyline (though if that's been debunked then fair enough). Although relatively minor that could potentially say something about the two companies willingness to work together.

Would it be that hard to work one more franchise into the narrative when people generally expect (or even plead for in the case of Iron Man) little in the way of crossover or references between the separate MCU movies outside of Avengers? Does TASM 2 or 3 need really overt references to the events of Avengers to prevent people saying "my suspension of disbelief has been shattered"?

But it's all ifs and buts. I still think it isn't likely and that they'll stay separate for the sake of simplicity and not having the headache to negotiate a more complicated deal than what they already have.
 
I just don't see anyway way how this could happen unless Marvel got the rights back even despite what Avi Arad and Eric Tolmach has said. I doubt they get final say.
 
The only thing that really matters for casting Peter Parker is acting ability. The "look" of the character is the average joe. The actor doesn't need to be a physical embodiment of any particular Spidey artists represention.

For you maybe.

For me the look is almost as important as the performance and INTEGRAL to how well PP/SM is portrayed. For me John Romita Sr's Peter Parker IS Peter Parker. If they cast a guy that looked like him and could play the part (who also wore a comic faithful Spidey suit) it would be the greatest thing ever.
 
I'd prefer Spider-Man not appear in the Avengers films unless it was just a funny cameo of him swinging by and waving at Thor and Iron Man or something like that. I never saw him as a 'team' kind of character. And at this rate Marvel would either have to pay Sony a huge amount of money to get the film rights to him back or they'd have to work out some kind of deal with them where they could split the profits from having him show up in the Marvel/Disney films, and I don't see that happening any time soon. We'll probably get the mythical reboots of the Fantastic Four and Daredevil before that happens.
 
Yeah Like I've said there's PLENTY of Avengers stories that don't have Spidey in them. I think even at the beginning of Infinity Gauntlet he even says he thinks he's way out of his league.
 
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Oh ya .... Sony is totally gonna sell Spidey's rights now. I thought everyone was supposed to be so turned off from the Spidey franchise after the 3rd one?

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After seeing TASM, I'd love to see Garfield's Spidey interact with the likes of Thor and Iron Man.
 
As much as I would like him to show up, I don't.... why because TASM maybe good (fans have said it is) but I am not watching it till it hits red box. Why? its not because I don't like Spidy... Hes one of my top 3 Fav. (Hulk, Spidy, Wolve) I am doing it because since Marvel is giving their character great movie adaption I am not going to back up any character made by marvel and not produce by marvel. I do not want TASM to be apart of the MU movie since marvel does not have creative control over it. But I am glad TASM is doing well.
 
While I agree with most people, I still think it'll be nice to see Spidy in the avengers in some shape or form. Considering that sony has the rights and Marvel doesn't, it seems like the idea won't happen. Its too bad...but hey, if both studios can work out something, cool. If not, that's okay.
 
The only thing that really matters for casting Peter Parker is acting ability. The "look" of the character is the average joe. The actor doesn't need to be a physical embodiment of any particular Spidey artists represention. These films themselves are just other representations/interpretation of the source material.

Even that being said, from what I've seen so far I believe Garfield hits the nail square on the head regarding Parker's physique and demeanour.

Now to get back on track, if I were to hear Spidey being involved with the Avengers for a big enough threat by perhaps one of Spidey's villains capable of such a threat, I'd be stoked.

If MCU was going w/Avengers Annual and MtiO storyline,then I say YES!! They are going w/GotG angle instead,so I say NO!!
 
while watching TASM i couldnt help but think that he would kick ass in the MCU. Seeing how he'd interact with the rest of TA would be gold.
 

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