The Avengers Spidey in the Avengers?

[Ultimatehero]

Go get what? I already said I'm more in line with DC, not MARVEL. Plus it's not going to be instant. Once again, you never said what you do for a living? What embarrassed that someone probably younger than you is more high profile in the business world? Lol. Must suck.

I wasn't talking about children toys. I was talking about marketing being strongest than every other summer film in EVERYTHING - not toys - EVERYTHING.

I also met someone, don't know why I'm remembering this just now, with someone at one of the offices behind Spider-Man once. Didn't keep in touch. BUT I remember them telling me they were UNSURE how things would go with the reboot due to various other shake ups.

Yeah, I personally have yet to see more - but that footage is going to the major cities only unfortunately. Or else I would have.

 

[John Locke]

Yes the teaser involved a 1st person view of Spidey swinging around.... and Peter's parents giving him to Uncle Ben and Aunt May.... and Peter finding a bag of his father's.... and Gwen sneaking Peter into the lab to meet Connors.... and Peter making the suit, learning his powers and that's about it.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Go get what? I already said I'm more in line with DC, not MARVEL. Plus it's not going to be instant. Once again, you never said what you do for a living? What embarrassed that someone probably younger than you is more high profile in the business world? Lol. Must suck.

I wasn't talking about children toys. I was talking about marketing being strongest than every other summer film in EVERYTHING - not toys - EVERYTHING.

I also met someone, don't know why I'm remembering this just now, with someone at one of the offices behind Spider-Man once. Didn't keep in touch. BUT I remember them telling me they were UNSURE how things would go with the reboot due to various other shake ups.

Yeah, I personally have yet to see more - but that footage is going to the major cities only unfortunately. Or else I would have.

Trust me, not embarrassed one bit ..... especially compared to a 23 year old fictitious industry insider claiming on the interwebz to know people at one of the offices for Spiderman. I love my job, but it's not relevant to the discussion at hand.

 

[DyeLorean]

This is gonna be a fun topic to read when all is said and done.

 

[Ultimatehero]

Lol. Fictitious? Still fooling yourself Rock? That seriously tells me all I need to about your confidence. I'm 23. Already showed one script that higher-ups loved, made them jump onboard everything else I'm working on, showing more than just casual interest, and they're looking forward to more than TWO of my scripts. Fictitious? Only in that I mostly write fiction.

I should also note, to everyone else, I do not view myself as "above everyone else" due to where I am in my life. Everyone is just as important as the other. But, Rock's sarcasm pushed me into that. So it was a more narrowed dis.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Lol. Fictitious? Still fooling yourself Rock? That seriously tells me all I need to about your confidence.

I should also note, to everyone else, I do not view myself as "above everyone else" due to where I am in my life. Everyone is just as important as the other. But, Rock's sarcasm pushed me into that. So it was a more narrowed dis.

Nobody cares.

 

[Ultimatehero]

And neither do I really, as said, I just see it as a business like any other business. I'd listen to a plumber when I need knowledge about fixing my toilet. I'd listen to a personal trainer when I need knowledge about my health and fitness. Etc. Everyone is just as worthy as the other. Everyone knows their field more than others uninvolved. Just figured me dissing you due to your sarcasm (since it definitely felt like I struck a nerve) may have made me come off as a elitist *****e bag who thought I was above everyone. This world is built upon the middle class.

 

[Rock Sexton]

And neither do I really, as said, I just see it as a business like any other business. I'd listen to a plumber when I need knowledge about fixing my toilet. I'd listen to a personal trainer when I need knowledge about my health and fitness. Etc. Everyone is just as worthy as the other. Everyone knows their field more than others uninvolved. Just figured me dissing you due to your sarcasm may have made me come off as a elitist *****e bag who thought I was above everyone.

Oh ya .... such an eye for business trying to present some half-plotted reason why Sony studios would lend arguably their biggest $$$ maker to a major competing film studio in a highly competitive film 2012 summer season for a few seconds of exposure ..... because major competitors do that kind of thing all the time for this bizarre industry "unity" that you think exists. They want the genre to do well as a whole, but that's where it begins and ends.

I suppose next you're going to tell me that Burger King is going to lend the Whopper to McDonald's because they could use a little more advertising.

 

[Ultimatehero]

I understand how to capture audience attention, being a writer - I'll admit that's my key strength. I understand other various notions about the office side as well though due to various things I've learned - such as the importance of support among studios when in a jam. They open up MONTHS apart. MARVEL is facing off against DC. Studios DO work together all the time when it would be beneficial to both parties. SONY has never struck me as confident in how they're going about things, not to mention someone in their offices told me they were themselves skeptical about how it would do. Merchandising rights were recently sold to Disney. And also as I said, the main thing that would contribute possibly here is the box office atmosphere surrounding it along with the other complications it has. I'm still upset SONY placed it two weeks before TDKR, that's going to be the hardest competition it has... better before it than after it though, I guess.... maybe it was placed later due to Avengers... placement still sucks though.

 

[Shadowlord X]

...... and you can run around to every forum defending nonsensical fan boy wet dreams!

Wow, your determination to make a fool of yourself over this rumour knows no bounds. Congrats.

 

[Shadowlord X]

I suppose next you're going to tell me that Burger King is going to lend the Whopper to McDonald's because they could use a little more advertising.

That is the most ******ed analogy I've ever heard.

Just out of curiosity if what is being suggested here is so bizarre then why did WB allow the tdkr prologue to be shown in front of a Paramount movie and boost Paramount movie BO???

 

[Rock Sexton]

I understand how to capture audience attention, being a writer - I'll admit that's my key strength. I understand other various notions about the office side as well though due to various things I've learned - such as the importance of support among studios when in a jam. They open up MONTHS apart. MARVEL is facing off against DC. Studios DO work together all the time when it would be beneficial to both parties. SONY has never struck me as confident in how they're going about things, not to mention someone in their offices told me they were themselves skeptical about how it would do. Merchandising rights were recently sold to Disney. And also as I said, the main thing that would contribute possibly here is the box office atmosphere surrounding it along with the other complications it has. I'm still upset SONY placed it two weeks before TDKR, that's going to be the hardest competition it has... better before it than after it though, I guess.... maybe it was placed later due to Avengers... placement still sucks though.

Is this person at that office a friend of your mother's college roommate's uncle's lawyer's next door neighbor?

Oh ya, you figured it all out .... except for the whole property rights issue, brand recognition, and logistics.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Wow, your determination to make a fool of yourself over this rumour knows no bounds. Congrats.

Ya right. The very essence of foolish is believing Spiderman's gonna make a cameo because some idiot appearing in the movie confused someone on the Avengers for him (hmmmmm Black Widows ..... Spiderman ..... hmmmmm)

That is the most ******ed analogy I've ever heard.

Just out of curiosity if what is being suggested here is so bizarre then why did WB allow the tdkr prologue to be shown in front of a Paramount movie and boost Paramount movie BO???

Did Nolan's Batman appear in a Paramount film that I'm unaware of?

 

[Ultimatehero]

No, it's someone I met personally while discussing business. I find it funny how jealous you seem to come off. Someone else I know - a friend of mine who's father is in the industry worked on the effects on the various MARVEL films and he has started working with them as well. He, unfortunately, isn't behind Amazing Spider-Man so I can't get anything on that for people.

If both studios agreed to it and found it mutually beneficial - they WOULD do it. Studios already work together. They may have worked together on this.

 

[Rock Sexton]

No, it's someone I met personally while discussing business. I find it funny how jealous you seem to come off.

If both studios agreed to it and found it mutually beneficial - they WOULD do it.

If, if, if ........

 

[Ultimatehero]

Dude, all you are saying is "if" too. You're fooling yourself if you think you're not.

Only an idiot would claim a concrete yes or no to something they do not know - it comes back to bite you in the ass.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Dude, all you are saying is "if" too. You're fooling yourself if you think you're not.

Only an idiot would claim a concrete yes or no to something they do not know - it comes back to bite you in the ass.

LOL, you are definitely young. You seem to think hurling insults wins arguments on the internet.

All I'm saying is "if"? What I'm saying is fact. These are competing studios who purchased the rights to individual comic franchises with intent to profit on them, not to make the other studios profit from them.

 

[Ultimatehero]

Dude, you are not stating fact. Alright, continue saying you are and if it proves you wrong I'll forever mock you on here as I have because of your "facts" and many others will as well. Guess you never learned that lesson yet.

Fact: Studios work together all the time when it's mutually beneficial.

Fact: Both studios may think it would benefit them. Hell, they could have met over coffee and thought it would be cool - happens all the time.

Fact: Both studios, if the above, have it in their power to draft up specified contracts that would enable them to hold onto sole property rights. Paramount can't use Spider-Man without Sony's approval, nor can Sony use the Avengers without Paramount's approval. However, when both approve it could happen.

If: Spider-Man will appear

If: Spider-Man will not appear

If: Both studios may want it

If: Neither studio may want it.

If: Only one of two studios may want it and can't get it.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Dude, you are not stating fact. Alright, continue saying you are and if it proves you wrong I'll forever mock you on here as I have because of your "facts" and many others will as well. Guess you never learned that lesson yet.

Fact: Studios work together all the time when it's mutually beneficial.

Fact: Both studios may think it would benefit them. Hell, they could have met over coffee and thought it would be cool - happens all the time.

Fact: Both studios, if the above, have it in their power to draft up specified contracts that would enable them to hold onto sole property rights. Paramount can't use Spider-Man without Sony's approval, nor can Sony use the Avengers without Paramount's approval. However, when both approve it could happen.

If: Spider-Man will appear

If: Spider-Man will not appear

If: Both studios may want it

If: Neither studio may want it.

If: Only one of two studios may want it and can't get it.

When ... if .... when .... if .... That's your entire thesis and this broad concept that "studios work together all the time". But hey, that's why they pay you the big bucks at that industry insider job.

 

[Ultimatehero]

It's not an "insider job" - I'm a writer dude with execs and VPs interested in me. I'm not a mole lol. Dude, you are beyond hilarious - you have nothing to back up what you say. I mean, do you see how big of a joke you are? You never formulate an intelligent post other than "no, because I say so." While everyone else is actually intelligent enough to back up their posts with something. It does feel like you're ten years old or something since you never back anything up other than "because I say so" and when anyone gets to the root of it - you avoid it completely.

 

[Rock Sexton]

It's not an "insider job" - I'm a writer dude with execs and VPs interested in me. I'm not a mole lol. Dude, you are beyond hilarious - you have nothing to back up what you say.

Well get back to writing that dissertation on how studios who pay good money for flagship franchises to market as their own, should lend them out. I'm sure it'll make an epic screen play one day. I can see Aaron Sorkin making it work. "The man who changed how studios do business!" LOL

 

[Steve Holt]

There once was a movie made named "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" where many studios co-operated for the greater good. (i.e Bugs and Mickey in the same frame)

anything is possible

 

[Ultimatehero]

Dude, I don't write dissertations and if you think that could become a movie? You're dumber than I thought and I already picture you taking the short bus. No offense to anyone. And as I said before no it hasn't happened before outside of 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit?' but because it hasn't happened yet doesn't it mean it will never happen. And a contract can be drawn and is specifically drawn to make sure neither side takes advantage. Just because if Spidey is in the Avengers doesn't mean Disney will own him then or the other way around - Sony free access to the Avengers. Any worthy contract would make sure of that.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I'm 23. Already showed one script that higher-ups loved, made them jump onboard everything else I'm working on, showing more than just casual interest, and they're looking forward to more than TWO of my scripts. Fictitious? Only in that I mostly write fiction.

Dude, if you're a 23 year old writer and you're already resting on the laurels that 'higher ups' love your scripts, I would quite seriously considering pulling my head out. Just sayin'.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I still don't thnk this is true.