The Avengers Spidey in the Avengers?

[Ultimatehero]

Dude, if you're a 23 year old writer and you're already resting on the laurels that 'higher ups' love your scripts, I would quite seriously considering pulling my head out. Just sayin'.

If you mean my egotistical side (pride and vanity)? Yeah, I'm working on getting my emotional age up to where my professional age is. I sorta feel like Clark Kent in the beginning of the last season of SV shouting to Jor-El about all I've done and then being slapped across the face with "you're one arrogant S.O.B!" That's the dark side I'm currently wrestling with. I'm already hard on myself with that.

As to it actually happening? As said, it's a HIGH UP company that I can not name since I feel like that is privileged information. My last script, the VP stated he wanted to buy and everyone in the office loved. If they weren't working on something similar, they've all said - they would have bought it. I never expected that script to go that far. Just a reading sample. I just expected, "it's ok, entertaining, more work - you could be good" - but not that by a long shot lol. And ever since then they've been on my ass interested in what I'm working on next. I don't even bring it up, they automatically go "what are you working on? Let me read it! Can't wait." I'm not fooling you. They're currently interested in more than two of my screenplays and are awaiting the finalized scripts. And this is a MAJOR studio lol. I have no idea how I got here. Getting here and getting that response so fast from them was an ego booster in both a good and bad way (bad in that it showed me how vanity can get the worst of me) and I'm working on that part.

I'm my own worst critic too. Super low self esteem, wallowing in self loathing, getting out of it via sarcasm. That's why I relate to the webhead. Basically this super high up company evidently believes in me more than I do. As said, I go in expecting them to knock me down - they just raise me further up. It's... surreal is the only word for it.

Long story short. Head is not up my ass in regards to the studio, that still feels unreal to me. I have no idea how it's happening so fast. But, egotistically - yes my head is very far up my ass it's unreal. And, as said, I hate that side of me and I'm trying to work on it. I don't want to become fake.

 

[Juicy J]

I still don't thnk this is true.

Agreed.
It'd be awesome if it was but I'm putting zero eggs in that basket for a million different reasons.

 

[cherokeesam]

Agreed.
It'd be awesome if it was but I'm putting zero eggs in that basket for a million different reasons.

I don't think it's going to happen, either.
But saying that it's not *possible* that such a cameo could happen is just blinkered atheism. Studios *have* shared easter eggs in each other's movies before; it's not beyond the realm of question for Sony and Marvel Studios to do the same. Especially since they're both working for the greater good of Marvel Entertainment as a whole.

 

[Juicy J]

I don't think it's going to happen, either.
But saying that it's not *possible* that such a cameo could happen is just blinkered atheism. Studios *have* shared easter eggs in each other's movies before; it's not beyond the realm of question for Sony and Marvel Studios to do the same. Especially since they're both working for the greater good of Marvel Entertainment as a whole.

I'm not blindly ruling it out as it does have precedent and is within the realm of possibility. But at the same time I'm not going to get my hopes up because, as it's been stated, we have nothing but hearsay and flimsy rumors to go off of.
Also I don't know if I'd say that Sony is working for the 'greater good of Marvel Entertainment'. Sony's main priority is Sony, and the franchises they own. They are going to do whatever it takes to make the most profit off the Spider-man franchise. Period, end of statement.
Whether that coincides with Marvel's vision of furthering their brand is up for debate. If sony thinks it would be beneficial for them to cross-pollinate their franchise with another studios, then yeah, it could very much happen.
But I could also just as easily see them not wanting to deal with it at all for various reasons.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

It's not impossible obviously. We're not talking about fantasy and really, behind closed doors of Hollywood business, anything could happen. That said though, it is very, very unlikely and for this to even be given such credence based on the flimsiness of the source is just folly.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

If you mean my egotistical side (pride and vanity)? Yeah, I'm working on getting my emotional age up to where my professional age is. I sorta feel like Clark Kent in the beginning of the last season of SV shouting to Jor-El about all I've done and then being slapped across the face with "you're one arrogant S.O.B!" That's the dark side I'm currently wrestling with. I'm already hard on myself with that.

As to it actually happening? As said, it's a HIGH UP company that I can not name since I feel like that is privileged information. My last script, the VP stated he wanted to buy and everyone in the office loved. If they weren't working on something similar, they've all said - they would have bought it. I never expected that script to go that far. Just a reading sample. I just expected, "it's ok, entertaining, more work - you could be good" - but not that by a long shot lol. And ever since then they've been on my ass interested in what I'm working on next. I don't even bring it up, they automatically go "what are you working on? Let me read it! Can't wait." I'm not fooling you. They're currently interested in more than two of my screenplays and are awaiting the finalized scripts. And this is a MAJOR studio lol. I have no idea how I got here. Getting here and getting that response so fast from them was an ego booster in both a good and bad way (bad in that it showed me how vanity can get the worst of me) and I'm working on that part.

I'm my own worst critic too. Super low self esteem, wallowing in self loathing, getting out of it via sarcasm. That's why I relate to the webhead. Basically this super high up company evidently believes in me more than I do. As said, I go in expecting them to knock me down - they just raise me further up. It's... surreal is the only word for it.

Long story short. Head is not up my ass in regards to the studio, that still feels unreal to me. I have no idea how it's happening so fast. But, egotistically - yes my head is very far up my ass it's unreal. And, as said, I hate that side of me and I'm trying to work on it. I don't want to become fake.

Holy crap, I can taste the neuroticism! You truly are a writer then.

I'm not going to lie, from one writer to another, the moment I saw you posting about your own writing in a self congratulatory way, I made a complete judgement on what you are like as a person. On reading this post though I see we both share the curse of over thinking things through self-indulgent prose. I'm still judging you, but I feel like I understand you better.

Writers. We're such wankers.

 

[Ultimatehero]

Holy crap, I can taste the neuroticism! You truly are a writer then.

I'm not going to lie, from one writer to another, the moment I saw you posting about your own writing in a self congratulatory way, I made a complete judgement on what you are like as a person. On reading this post though I see we both share the curse of over thinking things through self-indulgent prose. I'm still judging you, but I feel like I understand you better.

Writers. We're such wankers.

Neuroticism never goes away. Yeah, I'm in the studio system now basically. But - my favorite story, forgot where I heard it from... but - Dustin Hoffman even after he won all those academy awards was afraid somebody would find out he's a fraud because he truly believes/d that he was a fraud. Same thing here, I think I suck lol. I think everything I do can't be good enough despite people telling me otherwise. I'm constantly waiting for that rug to be pulled out from under me and the studio to figure out "this kid isn't the real deal." But, that never happens. I think neuroticism helps, it keeps you level headed and focused on the work. Stress and pressure somehow helps A LOT.

I may be a wise ass to the status quo of who sees potential and is, more or less, "grooming me." I gotta get used to that. It's hard. I'm trying to. But on the same hand, I still fear they'll realize I have no talent and even yet no idea what I'm doing - at all lol. That'll never go away - I'm an orphan - don't think I'm good enough for anyone, it's in the blood. Represent. Lol.

But, yeah. Everyone is neurotic who's in the arts, I believe, while the Hollywood system can either change someone or have them remain the same. I think it's having an impact on me because I'm an orphan, and it's like the recognition I never got or something. I dunno. I just hope it doesn't change me and every time I catch myself, I get mad - so I guess that's a good sign. Anyways, I want to be like Jon Favreau when it comes to relating to the masses, not one of the "I met him in person, he's a jerk" kinda guys. Like the webhead, sarcasm covers a lot - he seems confident, but he's actually terrified.

Not anxiety prone, just - I'm the James Dean guy. Small town raised. Terrible insecurities. Silent brooder. A lot think I'm strong and confident. I'm not.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

As a writer, you are only as good as you think you are. If you think you have nothing more to learn or improve on, you're an idiot. Sure some studio exec might like your stuff, but that could mean it's marketable or it's safe or any number of reasons. It doesn't mean it's deep, it doesn't mean it's honest and it doesn't mean it's a pure reflection of whatever it is you want to say.

Personally, I don't think you should see fame or striking it big as an end goal for writing, only as a means to do more writing. I wouldn't get ahead of myself with the 'being like Jon Favreau' stuff.

 

[Juicy J]

But, yeah. Everyone is neurotic who's in the arts

I can vouch for that

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Neuroticism isn't necessarily a bad thing, only if you wear it like a badge of honour.

And keep it to yourself. Neurotics love talking about their own s**t but hate other neurotics talking about their s**t :P

 

[Ultimatehero]

Well, not "like Jon Favreau" - I meant it in how some filmmakers relate to the masses. They're ordinary, friendly guys completely unaffected by the studio system. I mean, Ben Affleck? Coolest guy I've ever met. This dude, he wasn't effected at all by the system. He wasn't narcissistic in the least. That's what I meant.

The one thing I'm always doing as a writer is shaking things up. I'm an experimental kind of guy. I love breaking the rules. I think that might be what stands out to the studios. I don't know. I really don't lol. Just guesses. I cross boundaries and don't look back. No one would ever improve if they were satisfied completely with what they do - it just doesn't work that way. I'm always reading and trying to improve.

My mind just thinks masses automatically for the most part since it's what I grew up on - like loving the Neverending Story for example. Some of my ideas are completely and utterly indie-minded though it's insane, like who would ever want to fund this crazy experiment? But, I write that script anyways just for the love of it. I'm the kind of writer who pours blood onto the page. I think that's another thing the studio sees - like (not saying I am) James Dean, how far he would go to reach the reality of a scene that you knew it could only come from his heart and his guts. It's damn near close to self-destructing and self-harming lol. That cliche of writers who "bleed" on the page? I'm that guy. Just somehow I unconsciously write mostly what's 'marketable' too - but only really in that I see the world as one big giant metaphor.

Also a note - as a script reader who acted as the "gate keeper" for the studio for a while - always put your complete and utter soul into it. It's easy to tell who is just writing a script because they like the plot they found or they want to write something marketable. But the scripts that stand out? Are the ones you can truly feel like the writer is the emperor with no clothes on and you're seeing him or her naked with all their strengths and faults. Now that is truly captivating. Don't be afraid.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I think you missed my point about getting ahead of yourself. You're 23. You should be reading and writing as much as possibly and worrying about honing your craft, not what kind of 'auteur' you want to be to your fans.

 

[Ultimatehero]

I think the masses part comes from having managed a virtual series and having a web-presence that got me a fan base for a while. Just not ignoring that or ignoring them. But actually just feeling like I'm one of them. If it was up to me - I'd be completely behind the camera and not deal with any of that. I don't want the fame. At all. But interacting? Would be cool. To be even more specific, I don't want the studio to buy a script and I automatically turn into a total *****e bag lol. I just want to work, still be me, and still see the importance of the audience at large. To not forget how important they are. To me, losing sight of that - the people/the audience/ the ordinary joe - is what easily leads into one selling their soul.

As per honing, you're talking to a dude who still does a hundred drafts after I'm told it's ready to be turned in lol. I'm extremely neurotic.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

You should know I will accept your post but my brow is quite furrowed right now.

 

[Ultimatehero]

NOTE: Deleted because I felt like it revealed too much and really showed how insecure I am lol.

 

[Just one more]

Thoroughly enjoyable battle with the Troll, just gotta say.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

As per honing, you're talking to a dude who still does a hundred drafts after I'm told it's ready to be turned in lol. I'm extremely neurotic.

That's not honing your craft, that's putting all your eggs in one basket. Rewrites are important but you should never let your script become to 'big' in your own eyes.

And in all honesty, if you're looking for a life as a scriptwriter with an active fanbase, it's gonna be a rough next 10 years for you.

 

[Ultimatehero]

1) Dude, I got this far, this fast, I know what I'm doing. I have about 7 scripts in active development all of which are different from the rest. 2+ of which the studio is interested in, the rest I have yet to mention to them. This is all in addition to the reading sample they all liked and said if able to would have bought. The VP wished I had brought it to him sooner. And another script has shown interest by another contact. Besides, I could never narrow it down to just one - I always need to challenge myself to keep me on my feet.

2) As said before you're confusing fans with just acknowledging the audience and not losing myself to the Hollywood system. On here I used to add soundtrack lists and commentaries to anything I put out - people saw that as real and genuine. So no not fans, just inter-connectivity. When I mentioned Jon I didn't mean his status - I meant his blogs. Reaching beyond the screen.

 

[ETGuy]

Not taking sides, but the ASM Facebook page have The Avengers' page on their likes list.

 

[Mr. Fixit]

I still don't thnk this is true.

Damn right it's not true!!! Even considering it may cause Rock Sexton to murder your whole family.

 

[Rongxin]

Disney does own the merchandising rights to The Amazing Spider-Man. I can see how it would be beneficial for a cameo

 

[Rock Sexton]

Damn right it's not true!!! Even considering it may cause Rock Sexton to murder your whole family.

LOL ..... Hey some of us were born with common sense, others weren't.

 

[Airwings]

Tobey Maguire as an extra. Have him in the background, standing in a crowd and taking a picture. That could be the only "Spider-man cameo" they can ever get.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Apparently The Black Widow will get her web shooters is because spidey will make them for her.And The Avengers will help spidey take on The Sinister Six in his movie...

 

[Compi716]

1) Dude, I got this far, this fast, I know what I'm doing. I have about 7 scripts in active development all of which are different from the rest. 2+ of which the studio is interested in, the rest I have yet to mention to them. This is all in addition to the reading sample they all liked and said if able to would have bought. The VP wished I had brought it to him sooner. And another script has shown interest by another contact. Besides, I could never narrow it down to just one - I always need to challenge myself to keep me on my feet.

2) As said before you're confusing fans with just acknowledging the audience and not losing myself to the Hollywood system. On here I used to add soundtrack lists and commentaries to anything I put out - people saw that as real and genuine. So no not fans, just inter-connectivity. When I mentioned Jon I didn't mean his status - I meant his blogs. Reaching beyond the screen.

This is the worst attitude you can possibly have. You should know that being in the studio system. There is no industry as fluid, where careers can be shattered by saying the wrong thing to the right person. Arrogance is never a positive trait. Always be open to learning.

Just because someone shows interest in you now doesn't mean they will tomorrow. Always work, always edit, always read...always improve.