The Force Awakens Star Wars: The Force Awakens RT thread: Prediction and Discussion.

[Octoberist]

I wanna say it's gonna hit 87-93. So high 80's, low 90's.

 

[rogbngp]

Wow, this is tough to predict... but I'm going to say mid 80s-ish. Somewhere in the 80s anyway. The sense I'm getting from the trailers and premiere tweets is that once the initial euphoria wears off the film will settle in at about third in most critics' and fans' rankings for the film series:

1) Empire Strikes Back
2) A New Hope
3) The Force Awakens

Myself, I've always liked A New Hope best, with Empire Strikes back at number two. But perhaps that's because I tend to enjoy origin stories the most to begin with in general, i.e., I love the sense of discovery about the characters and their world when its all fresh.

So that's not bad at all, really. A fun, enjoyable, respectable start to the franchise reboot. Better than Return of the Jedi, but not the best of the lot. Perhaps for a lot of folks running about neck to neck with A New Hope, or very close to rivaling it.* Not a towering grand slam home run of a film, though.


*And, actually, for me that would be fortuitous since A New Hope is my favorite.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

TCW film was only 18%? It wasn't great but it was far better than Episode II. Glad the series got 100% better than the film though.

 

[Supernova]

since its Disney property im saying 83%

 

[BatLobster]

http://www.geekster.be/star-wars-vii-the-force-awakens-a-new-generation-a-new-beginning/

First full review, ahead of embargo. Figured we can dump reviews here, unless someone wants to make a new thread.

 

[jokesonm3]

Here's fine i think.

 

[spiderman2]

Wow, this is tough to predict... but I'm going to say mid 80s-ish. Somewhere in the 80s anyway. The sense I'm getting from the trailers and premiere tweets is that once the initial euphoria wears off the film will settle in at about third in most critics' and fans' rankings for the film series:

1) Empire Strikes Back
2) A New Hope
3) The Force Awakens

Myself, I've always liked A New Hope best, with Empire Strikes back at number two. But perhaps that's because I tend to enjoy origin stories the most to begin with in general, i.e., I love the sense of discovery about the characters and their world when its all fresh.

So that's not bad at all, really. A fun, enjoyable, respectable start to the franchise reboot. Better than Return of the Jedi, but not the best of the lot. Perhaps for a lot of folks running about neck to neck with A New Hope, or very close to rivaling it.* Not a towering grand slam home run of a film, though.


*And, actually, for me that would be fortuitous since A New Hope is my favorite.

For me I rate the star war movies like this.

1. episode 6
2. episode 5
3. episode 3
4. episode 4
5. episode 2
6. episode 1

The top 2 are by far the top 2 and the bottom 2 are by far the bottom 2 and I hate 1 and 2.

 

[kickass]

http://www.geekster.be/star-wars-vii-the-force-awakens-a-new-generation-a-new-beginning/

First full review, ahead of embargo.

Well that's worrisome.

 

[ares834]

Nothing worrisome about it IMO. Admittedly, I've known how the story would mostly play out for awhile now and I'm fine (albeit disappointed) with it. For me, the real question is whether the film would have compelling characters and from the sounds of it, it does.

 

[kickass]

But doesn't this whole thing just feel like one gigantic missed opportunity if all it is is an EP 4 reimaging? Of all the talks and discussions JJ and Kasdan talked about, reimagine ANH is the best they could come up with?

Granted I haven't seen the film and it may just be a case of "history repeating itself" while it's still new enough to be different.....or different enough to be new.....you know what I mean lol. Of course I'll have to see it first to finally judge, but this makes me very interesting and curious to see what Michael Arnt was going to do with it instead.

 

[ares834]

No, I pretty much agree. I've just had a few months to chew over this fact so at this time it doesn't particularly bother me.

This is one of the few times where I feel that knowing the spoilers before hand will allow me to enjoy this film more than if I didn't.

 

[kickass]

What they should have done was reimagine either Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones and make those better films LOL!

(I'm just kidding, I am still very excited for TFA, just worried it'll be too much of the same that it won't be its own damn thing).

 

[BatLobster]

I'm definitely getting the vibe that the "ANH remake" argument will probably be THE popular criticism leveled against the film. Hopefully the movie is as thrilling and fun and emotional as the trailers have been to the point where we enjoy the similarities that are there. While it's been a minor concern of mine that the movie would be a little too on the safe and predictable side, I can't help but feel that the characters themselves are going to be what makes this a different story than what we've seen before.

Crazy to think that when I wake up tomorrow, there's going to be a RT score. Gonna be an interesting day.

 

[Napoleon]

I'm not sure the ANH remake critique will have any merit or not though. TBH it seems like one that some people have already decided to give long before they even see the movie just based on the fact that J.J. Abrams is directing it.

 

[BatLobster]

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/en...long-star-wars-review-force-awakens/77395392/

Another review.

 

[spiderman2]

I'm definitely getting the vibe that the "ANH remake" argument will probably be THE popular criticism leveled against the film. Hopefully the movie is as thrilling and fun and emotional as the trailers have been to the point where we enjoy the similarities that are there. While it's been a minor concern of mine that the movie would be a little too on the safe and predictable side, I can't help but feel that the characters themselves are going to be what makes this a different story than what we've seen before.

Crazy to think that when I wake up tomorrow, there's going to be a RT score. Gonna be an interesting day.

From the previews I never would think this movie would be to much like episode 4. What does and still does wory me is the fact that episode 1 looked great from previews and ended up being one of the worst movies I have ever seen and same thing with episode 2. Also having no yoda and no empier and no vador. I really want those reviews to come and for them to be high to make me fell less wored about the movie sucking.

 

[spiderman2]

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/en...long-star-wars-review-force-awakens/77395392/

Another review.

Is it good or bad or ok? I have no interest in spoilers at all!

 

[ares834]

Good. They gave it a B+.

I'm not sure the ANH remake critique will have any merit or not though. TBH it seems like one that some people have already decided to give long before they even see the movie just based on the fact that J.J. Abrams is directing it.

I don't understand how you come to that conclusion, especially since we haven't seen the film yet. The reviewer even pointed out some big parallels between the two.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's a positive review.

 

[BatLobster]

They gave it a B+. Mostly very positive, says it brings the Star Wars feel back etc. Cited a couple of minor script issues and acknowledged that some will find it too similar to the original film. But ultimately concluded that it's not the worst thing in the world to be similar to that movie.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Hmmm...

 

[spiderman2]

They gave it a B+. Mostly very positive, says it brings the Star Wars feel back etc. Cited a couple of minor script issues and acknowledged that some will find it too similar to the original film. But ultimately concluded that it's not the worst thing in the world to be similar to that movie.

While if it is similar to the first movie that is not a bad thing has long has it doesn't just fell like it is the exact same movie. If this movie is episode 3 good or better I real be happy. Some times people will talk about how such and such movie is not has good has the first movie or the second movie in a franchise ect but that is not a issue. You don't have to make a movie the best in a franchise for it to fell like a success. Has long has it is some what close then it is a success. The problem is if you have a movie that is miles worse then the other movies in the franchise.

 

[StarLord]

While if it is similar to the first movie that is not a bad thing has long has it doesn't just fell like it is the exact same movie. If this movie is episode 3 good or better I real be happy. Some times people will talk about how such and such movie is not has good has the first movie or the second movie in a franchise ect but that is not a issue. You don't have to make a movie the best in a franchise for it to fell like a success. Has long has it is some what close then it is a success. The problem is if you have a movie that is miles worse then the other movies in the franchise.

I sure as hell hope it's better than that.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Personally I didn't like any of the prequel films so...

Remember I am not a Star Wars fan, I like the films but I didn't give all of the films 10's or anything. My scores would look low to the hardcore fans I believe. I don't expect it to be Empire good but I would like for it to at least be on the same level as the first film.

 

[Napoleon]

Good. They gave it a B+.



I don't understand how you come to that conclusion, especially since we haven't seen the film yet. The reviewer even pointed out some big parallels between the two.

I haven't seen the film and thus cannot say for certain (and never did), but I do know that some people tend to form preemptive criticisms towards certain movies and when they do come out, they try to confirm those criticisms by looking for what they want to see, so I'm always wary of those.