State Your Opinion on A Character - Part 1

[Mystirious]

The Batmobile can fly Ferret

It's pretty amazing

No. Bat-thing.

The Androgynous Action Ace!

 

[SuperFerret]

Why can the Batmobile fly? Isn't that what the Batplane is for?

 

[Franklin Richards]

What?



The cape, the mask and the costume provide the image of a giant bat, and most of his gadgets are smaller simpler things that can be easily hidden. I just don't like the Batmobile mostly because it hinders patrols. Moving from roof to roof leads to a much quicker response to a crime than pulling over, getting out, and running down an alley where there was a crime a few seconds ago, but now there's not because they heard your ****ing car and ran Batman.

I presume it's used more for beachheads. Park close by and hit the roofs. Things go bad, you can fire a missle out of that thing from inside a warehouse or something.

 

[SuperFerret]

It's still gonna get peed on wherever he parks it.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Well it IS Gotham.

 

[Spike_x1]

I really like the batmobile, but I'm kind of against the flying one. I mean, I know there's no reason for why Batman wouldn't have a flying batmobile, considering all the advanced technology available to someone with his kind of money in the DCU.

...But my problem is just that there's nowhere really to go with future car designs once Bruce has one that flies.

We can see that sheer variety of interesting car designs here:

History of the Batmobile:

Spoiler

But from now on, any future version of the car that crops up that isn't flight capable is immediately rendered useless, along with the batwing. There's no reason for why Batman wouldn't just scoff at any new ground-based car design, and then hop into his flying Jetsons car. James Bond had a similar situation when he was given a car that could turn invisible. There's just not many ways you can top that without straining your credibility even more than it already is. Where's Batman supposed to go with car designs from this point? Maybe one that can travel through time (if he doesn't have one already)? Judging from the History of the Batmobile pic, Batman just sorta inexplicably goes back to using tires and roads with his cars. Why would he do that when he has a better car that can fly? I know why the writers would have him go back to a more down-to-earth car (

), but I'd be interested in hearing an in-universe explanation.

 

[Anubis]

I really like the batmobile, but I'm kind of against the flying one. I mean, I know there's no reason for why Batman wouldn't have a flying batmobile, considering all the advanced technology available to someone with his kind of money in the DCU.

...But my problem is just that there's nowhere really to go with future car designs once Bruce has one that flies.

We can see that sheer variety of interesting car designs here:But from now on, any future version of the car that crops up that isn't flight capable is immediately rendered useless, along with the batwing. There's no reason for why Batman wouldn't just scoff at any new ground-based car design, and then hop into his flying Jetsons car. James Bond had a similar situation when he was given a car that could turn invisible. There's just not many ways you can top that without straining your credibility even more than it already is. Where's Batman supposed to go with car designs from this point? Maybe one that can travel through time (if he doesn't have one already)? Judging from the History of the Batmobile pic, Batman just sorta inexplicably goes back to using tires and roads with his cars. Why would he do that when he has a better car that can fly? I know why the writers would have him go back to a more down-to-earth car (

), but I'd be interested in hearing an in-universe explanation.

So just make all the ones after able to fly.

Didn't stop people from liking the ones that couldn't fly. Which was all of them.

 

[Spike_x1]

That just seems like the 2nd laziest solution possible.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It makes a lot more sense than having three separate vehicles. What happens if he's chasing some dude who can fly and is too fast to hit with a grapple line? Makes a lot more sense to just be able to hit a button and turn the car into a flying vehicle than to run back to the cave and hope that the Batplane can pick up the trail that his piece of s*** terrestrial Batmobile lost.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Batman is no Reed Richards. A flying Batmobile must get about and inch to the gallon. Sucker is prolly nuclear and a radiation hazard.

 

[twylight]

I'm trying to remember when was the last time i saw the batmobile apart from the All-Star version...I can't remember. MEH it's a fancy car that can be a submarine, an airplane and a car...

 

[The Question]

So Batman shouldn't wear a cape either. And the mask is too much of a burden. He should be wearing black makeup. The smoke pellets, grappling gun, and all those other "wonderful toys" just scream millionaire as well. Oh and let's not hide the fact that he's eliminating 51% of the population by being Bat"MAN". It would be smarter for him to appear androgynous.

How did anything I say suggest he should lose the cape and mask? The mask is just practical and the cape plus the mask gives the desired aesthetic to give him the scary-yet-awe inspiring reputation he's going for. And in what way would the mask be a burden anyway?

As for the gadgets, none of the other gadgets obviously scream millionaire. He could make effective smoke bombs really cheaply, batarangs are just steel cut into airodinamic bat shapes, it's cannon that the batcuffs are just plastic zip ties, really the only obviously expensive gadget he regularly uses is the grappling gun, and that's only because the technology for it doesn'tn actually exist yet. And even then, none of those things are as flashy or obvious as the batmobile. All of his other gadgets you could argue are the result of MacGyvering. The Batmobile, not so much.

 

[Franklin Richards]

How did anything I say suggest he should lose the cape and mask? The mask is just practical and the cape plus the mask gives the desired aesthetic to give him the scary-yet-awe inspiring reputation he's going for. And in what way would the mask be a burden anyway?

As for the gadgets, none of the other gadgets obviously scream millionaire. He could make effective smoke bombs really cheaply, batarangs are just steel cut into airodinamic bat shapes, it's cannon that the batcuffs are just plastic zip ties, really the only obviously expensive gadget he regularly uses is the grappling gun, and that's only because the technology for it doesn'tn actually exist yet. And even then, none of those things are as flashy or obvious as the batmobile. All of his other gadgets you could argue are the result of MacGyvering. The Batmobile, not so much.

The mask isn't practical. It reduces his peripheral vision. Hinders his fighting as well when it comes to neck rotation. They had to tweek it in the movie version and it still didn't work very well. Not as well as the practical decision of using makeup instead. Plus you can still evoke a scary aesthetic without the mask.

Choose a different theme. He's not married to that motif.

And the cape is a burden. No cage fighter is going to run around in a cape. It's not bulletproof so it doesn't provide anything else other than unrealistic gliders that scream high tech rich boy.

And I could go on and on...

My point is that if you start stripping down the logic in having a Batmobile, you might as well start picking his entire MO apart. Why not accept these as personal choices and see how the game plays out?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Batman is no Reed Richards. A flying Batmobile must get about and inch to the gallon. Sucker is prolly nuclear and a radiation hazard.

Batman is totally Reed Richards. Where have you been for the last decade or so? Dude's got every gizmo imaginable and invented half of them himself.

 

[Anubis]

It makes a lot more sense than having three separate vehicles. What happens if he's chasing some dude who can fly and is too fast to hit with a grapple line? Makes a lot more sense to just be able to hit a button and turn the car into a flying vehicle than to run back to the cave and hope that the Batplane can pick up the trail that his piece of s*** terrestrial Batmobile lost.

Which also lowers Bat's carbon foot print.


Whelp, that's it for the Batmobile.

Spoiler

Lets go get some Bat-Tacos!

Black Manta

 

[Franklin Richards]

I really like Black Manta. And I'm not ashamed to say that I first fell for him on the Superfriends. What a voice! Plus he's like Iron Man of the ocean. I always wanted him and Stingray to go a round or two.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He's cool. Any villain who literally ruins his nemesis' entire family in one fell swoop is pretty boss. Too bad he hasn't done anything all that impressive since then. Johns seems to like him, though, so I have a feeling he's got big things in store for Black Manta in the new series.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I don't know much about him but I dig his look

 

[Anubis]

Was it PAD who had it where the reason he hated Aquaman was because he got taffyed by pirates and Aquaman didn't help him?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Haha, yeah. Well, strongly implied it, anyway.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Well it IS the guys turf! How many times have people cried out to the Heavens yelling, "Save us, Aquaman!!"


He shoulda showed up.

 

[Anubis]

I think he could actually SEE Aquaman while they were taffying him.

Aquaman just didn't hear him.

I'd hate his ass too.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I like to think I'd remain rational and understand that Aquaman's one dude attempting to cover millions of miles of ocean.

But I'd probably hate his ass too.

 

[twylight]

Don't know much about Black Manta, but I love his look. It's such a sci-fi 1960's look. It's awesome!

 

[The Question]

I kind of dig how his motivation is that he's a racist misanthrope with asperger's syndrome who champions a black militant cause to get goons but really just wants to sell guns and drugs and wreck people's **** because he hates the world. That's kind of unique.