State Your Opinion on A Character

[BLACKVULCAN]

ohhhh yes!... and here we go! i knew this cat would come up sooner or later!

this cat! This cat i cant use sucks or rocks on... he falls into that phantom zone of i dont hate him but i am def not a bat boy! Everybody wants to be this dude! Mannnnn! i want to be the dude that imperious to pain ( who wants pain? needing to be sewn up all the time by Alfred!) and can melt your ass like a cheese samich with his eyes! i dont get it! he's cool with all the toys, digging chicks in leather, has bread to buy super models to swim in fish tanks. His movies rock, but not cool in that this dude can kick everybody ass! come on man! this dude should be traction somewhere that's Bull*&^%!! beating Darkseid, Supes, the Hyperclan, THE HULK!!..... and just about everybody else on the planet and their Aunt May! getta outta here with that.plus he treats his friends like crap, spying on em with brother eye!(That's a friend???) Bats is like kissing a supermodel with halitosis.. a necessary evil that i tolerate!

 

[ThDWgeek]

Oh c'mon. It's Batman. Pretty much everyone likes Batman. He's just that cool.

 

[Mystirious]

I dig Batman when he's not written as a dbag or an angry psychotic. When he's written well I love reading/watching his adventures

Young Justice while far from perfect has a pretty neat version of Batman. He's stern and surly and a bit grim but he's also got a sense of humour and he's caring and reasonable underneath

Love his interaction with Tim

Lick the boots of justice!

 

[trustyside-kick]

I like Bats but I prefer him when he's not making cameos in everyone's books. He isn't the only deductive or smart or "go to guy" I see existing in the DCU. Not much needs to be said, he's Batman. I hate that he's overly exposed and overly hyped and this idea of BatGod.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Young Justice while far from perfect has a pretty neat version of Batman. He's stern and surly and a bit grim but he's also got a sense of humour and he's caring and reasonable underneath

Love his interaction with Tim

Assuming your last comment is still relating to YJ Bats: that's Dick not Tim in the YJ cartoon.

 

[Mystirious]

Really? I thought it was Tim

My mistake!

 

[trustyside-kick]

Only in interviews before the show came out did they address that it is Dick. Easy mistake to make.

 

[WompuM]

I don't think there will ever be a character in fiction that can be interpretted in as many ways as The Batman and still have every interpretation be 100% Batman. You cannot say that 60's Batman is any less Batman that Conroy's Batman or that he's any less than Keaton's Batman or he's any less than Miller's Batman or he's any less than Bale's Batman. The only possible exception is Val Kilmer.

 

[trustyside-kick]

No. Outside of Year One Miller's most commonly written Batman ISN'T Batman. Plain and simple. And for some reason Tony S. Daniel is trying to channel that type of Batman.

 

[WompuM]

See, he is though. You might not like the interpretation but at it's core, it's still the Dark Knight of Vengance. It's instantly recognizable and, whether you like it or not, it works.

 

[Anubis]

No. Outside of Year One Miller's most commonly written Batman ISN'T Batman. Plain and simple. And for some reason Tony S. Daniel is trying to channel that type of Batman.

Well that's like, your opinion man .....watch your nuts. I may have given people permission to attack your crotch if you don't agree with them.

 

[Kitsune]

I dig Batman when he's not written as a dbag or an angry psychotic. When he's written well I love reading/watching his adventures

Young Justice while far from perfect has a pretty neat version of Batman. He's stern and surly and a bit grim but he's also got a sense of humour and he's caring and reasonable underneath

Love his interaction with Tim



Lick the boots of justice!

If you're going to use Mistress America's battle cry, please give her (or me as her creator) credit

 

[Mystirious]

You and your crotch attacking 'Nubs

 

[Mystirious]

If you're going to use Mistress America's battle cry, please give her (or me as her creator) credit

Sorry Kitsune!

'Lick the boots of Justice' is the catch phrase of Kitsune's fabulous original character Mistress America the patriotic dominatrix everyone

She's sauce

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Really? I thought it was Tim

My mistake!

Only in interviews before the show came out did they address that it is Dick. Easy mistake to make.

Especially since it'd make more sense if it were Tim. And if Kid Flash were Bart. And if they weren't the black ops arm of the Justice League. And if the show didn't suck.

 

[The Question]

Especially since it'd make more sense if it were Tim. And if Kid Flash were Bart. And if they weren't the black ops arm of the Justice League. And if the show didn't suck.

The show doesn't suck that bad. It's no The Batman or anything. It's biggest crime is being kind of boring.

 

[WompuM]

It is a bit boring, isn't it.

 

[The Question]

It is a bit boring, isn't it.

Things don't tend to happen in it much, no.

Although, I found the episode about Kid Flash and Dr. Fate to be wicked annoying, because I pretty much dissagreed with both sides of the argument: Kid Flash is being dumb for assuming that all of Fate and Klarion's powers are some kind of illusion to mask technology that already exists, but the show as a whole is dumb for saying magic "just can't be explained," because anything that exists can be explained in physical terms even if we don't know how it works yet and basically science does not work that way god damn.

 

[Spike_x1]

The show doesn't suck that bad. It's no The Batman or anything. It's biggest crime is being kind of boring.

And the lack of enough character development. Which is a shame, because all of the necessary elements to make the show and its characters great are right there, but there's very little exploration of any of it. I've said it before, but if they just took the occasional episode here and there to do things like show Robin on patrol with Batman and then contrast his behavior there with how he interacts with the other teenage heroes, or put Superboy and Superman together for an episode and explore why Clark is so distant (instead of limiting what the audience sees on the topic to only Conner's perspective, making Superman seems like a colossal jerkass), they could easily turn a cartoon that's mediocre at best into a legitimately awesome show.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

The show doesn't suck that bad. It's no The Batman or anything. It's biggest crime is being kind of boring.

*Gasp, Cough ,Cough " Kool-aid comes out nose".... With that Joker with no shoes on!!!!you cant run around gotham with no shoes on!!! *Gasp* Cough. Just The very thought of that show makes me... "shudders* Cough. Damn! made me spill my Kool-aid!

making Superman seems like a colossal jerkass),

yeah he comes off like that... and for that BOOO!! that show!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The show doesn't suck that bad. It's no The Batman or anything. It's biggest crime is being kind of boring.

It's biggest crime for me is the kids' being deputized by the Justice League as a black ops squad. I know they're not technically assassinating anyone or doing anything too heinous, but it's just such a stupid concept that f***ing Batman would trust anyone else to do highly important stealth work, let alone a bunch of teenagers. I cringe every time I see them switch to their boring black stealth costumes, too. Young Justice is supposed to be about the next generation of bright, fun superheroes coming of age, not a squad of superpowered quasi-spies with mostly obnoxious personalities, boring, awkward romances amongst themselves, and terrible catchphrases. It's basically a disappointment on every level for me.

 

[The Question]

And the lack of enough character development. Which is a shame, because all of the necessary elements to make the show and its characters great are right there, but there's very little exploration of any of it. I've said it before, but if they just took the occasional episode here and there to do things like show Robin on patrol with Batman and then contrast his behavior there with how he interacts with the other teenage heroes, or put Superboy and Superman together for an episode and explore why Clark is so distant (instead of limiting what the audience sees on the topic to only Conner's perspective, making Superman seems like a colossal jerkass), they could easily turn a cartoon that's mediocre at best into a legitimately awesome show.

One thing I do really like about the show is how it handles the villains. They act a lot like real world criminals. The League of Shadows looks and operates a lot like a (much flasheir version of) a real terrorist organization. Professor Ivo looks and operates like a (much flasheir version of) a real life psychopathic narcisist. Not to say that the villains in previous DCU cartoons weren't well rounded and believable as far as their personalities go, but this show puts a bit more emphasis in basing how they opperate on how real life crime works, with the addition of super science and metahumans of course. And I like that, not because "realistic is better just beause booyah," but because I find villains who's actions are based on real world criminal psychology and criminology to be very interesting and very threatening, because it brings an added unease of familiarity. The more plausible a villain's action in a work seem to the reader, the creepier they are.

It's biggest crime for me is the kids' being deputized by the Justice League as a black ops squad. I know they're not technically assassinating anyone or doing anything too heinous, but it's just such a stupid concept that f***ing Batman would trust anyone else to do highly important stealth work, let alone a bunch of teenagers. I cringe every time I see them switch to their boring black stealth costumes, too. Young Justice is supposed to be about the next generation of bright, fun superheroes coming of age, not a squad of superpowered quasi-spies with boring, awkward romances amongst themselves and terrible catchphrases. It's basically a disappointment on every level for me.

The black ops thing really doesn't bother me too much. I don't know why.

But yeah, the character-boringness kills it for me. I think if the characters were more characterable then the whole "next generation of bright, fun superheroes coming of age" angle would shine through any official purpose the team has.

 

[Anubis]

I don't see how they could put a couple of kids into a dangerous Superhuman prison. That's just irresponsible.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

It's biggest crime for me is the kids' being deputized by the Justice League as a black ops squad. I know they're not technically assassinating anyone or doing anything too heinous, but it's just such a stupid concept that f***ing Batman would trust anyone else to do highly important stealth work, let alone a bunch of teenagers. I cringe every time I see them switch to their boring black stealth costumes, too. Young Justice is supposed to be about the next generation of bright, fun superheroes coming of age, not a squad of superpowered quasi-spies with mostly obnoxious personalities, boring, awkward romances amongst themselves, and terrible catchphrases. It's basically a disappointment on every level for me.

i so agree with this " you guys are young and dont know better and are irresponsible ...buuut i am going to send you on black covert op missions.. WHAT The HELL??? and yeah it just suppose to be intelligence gathering( but uh huh! we all know how that will turn out!) another case of Bats and his bad parenting skills! It should be we are going to help you understand and use your powers to become the great heroes we know you can be. even Superman has bad parenting skills! Freaking Superman!! The guy who treats his dog better than most people i know!! get outta here with that!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh man, I totally forgot about how unbelievably f***ing awful Superman is in the cartoon. I must've blocked that part out because it's like 10 times worse than anything else that's wrong with the show.