Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer - Part 3

[Blitzkrieg]

69 on MC after 35 reviews and average rating on RT is 7.3 (for both top critics & all critics). Very impressive.

 

[BH/HHH]

RT works perfectly fine.

I don't think so at all, no I think it's proven that a 3/5 should not equate to rotten.

The critic decides whether their review is listed as rotten or fresh. The rotten or fresh labels is nothing more than "Recommend / Not Recommend". Not all critics decide whether a film is fresh or rotten baded on how they rated the film out of ten or five. Plus, not all critics give much thought to number ratings. Considering them perfunctory. So maybe that critic considers it rotten regardless of the number score he gave the film.

And RT works just fine. Its an aggregator. It gathers data and objectively relays it in an easily digestable form on a single page. If 50% of the submitted reviews are rotten the film receives a percentage of 50%. This tells people that 50% of the reviews were rotten. Its simple math and isnt flawed.

The only flaw is how people use that information. Some people put way too much stock in that percentage and dont actually read reviews. They just glance at the percentage and decide based on that. But that isnt a flaw of RT.com. Thats a flaw of the people that use RT.com.

Then done people cheaply don't know how to use the numbered rating system because there is no way a 3/5 should equate to rotten. Hence my point it should be automated and I guess some critics should learn to use the number rating system correctly. Because a film that's 3/5 is better than average, even if it's only slightly better that doesn't make it bad or unwatchable so it shouldn't be rotten.

Maybe people should read the reviews but we live in a time when you can download stuff via the click of a button. People are impatient and want the information now so that's probably why they check the RT score rather than actually click on any of the actual reviews.

It's at 90% though currently whats' the argument again? Me personally, I don't give a damn but I know many do.

The argument us the way RT works nit what the actual score for IT is. I admit I got my back up when the review that gave the film 3/5 labelled it rotten. Again not because he didn't like it, but at the way RT works. A film that is 3/5 shouldn't even be allowed to be labelled rotten. There needs to be an automated system that works it out based on the critic score. You need 3 stages, rotten, muddling and fresh. I think the RT system is very flawed.

Anyway I won't derail the thread any further but I do not in any way think I'm wrong about the way Rotten Tomatoes works.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

http://www.kmbc.com/article/police-terrified-by-red-it-balloons-tied-to-sewer-grates/12182571

Police officers in a small Pennsylvania town are evidently afraid of a certain homicidal clown.

The Lititz police department on Tuesday posted photos of red balloons a prankster tied to a pair of sewer grates.

A red balloon is the calling card of Pennywise, the sewer-dwelling, child-eating clown in Stephen King's horror novel "It." The hotly anticipated movie version opens in theaters Friday.

In a playful Facebook post, police write they admire the prankster's creativity but were "completely terrified" while removing the balloons and "respectfully request they do not do that again."

Police also suggest people watch previews of the movie with the lights turned on and the volume turned low.

The police department's post ends with a famous line from the book: "You'll float too."

 

[MAN O STEEL]

Just got back from seeing IT. going back again in a couple hours to see IT again. Wow, what a movie. This was absolutely the best horror movie i've seen in the last 20 years. Every box was ticked for me a part from one scene that disappointed me slightly, I won't name it, so as not to spoil anything. The kids were full of character and so believable. I felt like I hung around these types of kids growing up. Bill as Pennywise was great, I just wish he had more to do. Won't spoil why I feel that way but you'll see what I mean for yourself. On the whole I'd give IT a

9/10

Can't wait to see it again in a few hours

 

[Marvolo]

I don't think so at all, no I think it's proven that a 3/5 should not equate to rotten.



Then done people cheaply don't know how to use the numbered rating system because there is no way a 3/5 should equate to rotten. Hence my point it should be automated and I guess some critics should learn to use the number rating system correctly. Because a film that's 3/5 is better than average, even if it's only slightly better that doesn't make it bad or unwatchable so it shouldn't be rotten.

Maybe people should read the reviews but we live in a time when you can download stuff via the click of a button. People are impatient and want the information now so that's probably why they check the RT score rather than actually click on any of the actual reviews.



The argument us the way RT works nit what the actual score for IT is. I admit I got my back up when the review that gave the film 3/5 labelled it rotten. Again not because he didn't like it, but at the way RT works. A film that is 3/5 shouldn't even be allowed to be labelled rotten. There needs to be an automated system that works it out based on the critic score. You need 3 stages, rotten, muddling and fresh. I think the RT system is very flawed.

Anyway I won't derail the thread any further but I do not in any way think I'm wrong about the way Rotten Tomatoes works.

You think any film that is above average should be labeled "Fresh", but some critics don't want to recommend every above average film. Not every critic thinks all above average films are "Fresh". Why should a critic be required to label a film "Fresh" and thereby recommend a film if they don't want to?

If a critic writes a review for a website or newspaper or magazine they choose the rating they give the film. Then when the critic submits that review to RT.com, RT.com allows the critic to decide whether they consider the film Fresh or Rotten. Forcing a critic to label a film Fresh or Rotten defeats the purpose of asking critic for their opinion on a film.

 

[BH/HHH]

You think any film that is above average should be labeled "Fresh", but some critics don't want to recommend every above average film. Not every critic thinks all above average films are "Fresh". Why should a critic be required to label a film "Fresh" and thereby recommend a film if they don't want to?

If a critic writes a review for a website or newspaper or magazine they choose the rating they give the film. Then when the critic submits that review to RT.com, RT.com allows the critic to decide whether they consider the film Fresh or Rotten. Forcing a critic to label a film Fresh or Rotten defeats the purpose of asking critic for their opinion on a film.

I'm not saying that I'm saying a movie that gets 3/5 doesn't deserve to be labelled rotten. There should be some way to certify it in between.

I don't see how it does because the way the view the film should be reflected in the rating out of 5 or 10. It's statistics, it's really that simple. RT is flawed.

 

[The Demon's Head]

For those of u that have seen this I have a question for u.

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Is Henry Bowers a throw away character or do they do him justice in the movie. Imo Henry bowers was a mean little punk in the book and he really made some trouble for the losers club at the same time that Pennywise did.

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Henry is pretty scary. He tries to carve his initials on Ben's stomache, kills his father and tries to kill the Losers.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Hurricane Irma will definitely hurt the BO on OW. Theaters in Florida will be closed for sure. Folks in Florida and it's associated areas, stay safe.

 

[BH/HHH]

Hurricane Irma will definitely hurt the BO on OW. Theaters in Florida will be closed for sure. Folks in Florida and it's associated areas, stay safe.

Yeah it's gonna but it's to be expended isn't it.Really hope people are safe.

 

[LoganPool]

I don't think so at all, no I think it's proven that a 3/5 should not equate to rotten.

I look at movie grades the same way I would look at a test grade in school.

A 3/5 equals 60%

In most schools, a 60% equates to a D or D- letter grade.

A D- is definitely rotten.

I see people on here all the time saying things like "I loved this movie! I give it a 7/10!"

Really? If my professor gave me a 70% on a paper, in no way would I say that he loved my paper.

To each their own I guess.

 

[jed]

Just came back from a screening. Great,awesome, fantastic horror movie!!!

Can't wait for the sequel.

I like how the opening scene with Georgie

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They actually show Pennywise ripping his arm, and then dragging his body into the drain.

I thought it was sad and heartbreaking during the final scene when

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Pennywise transorms into Georgie, and Bill has to shoot him in the forehead with the gun.

But I also kind of feel sorry for

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Pennywise during the finale scene. Because he was outnumbered by the seven kids. Poor clown never has a chance. He got beaten up real badly by the seven losers, starting with Richie with the baseball bat.

By the way, this is the order of each of the 7 kids's ecounter with Pennywise

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Mike, Stan,Ben,Beverly,Eddie,Bill . Then they went to the haunted house. Then it's Eddie again. Followed by Richie. Then Richie and Bill. Eddie. Then Richie,Bill and Eddie. Then Beverly and the rest of the losers shows up. Beverly struck an iron rod into Pennywise's head.

Pennywise escaped. But later on, Pennywise kidnaps Beverly.

Then in the sewer scene, Stan. Eddie.

In the finale, all seven losers took turns beating the life out of Pennywise.

 

[jed]

I really like the projector room scene.

When

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Pennywise shows up in the projector screen, then suddenly he came out of the screen, like Samora coming out from the tv from "The Grudge".

I also like during the sewer finale scene,

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you see this huge mountain of rubbish?? and you see all the missing kids, including Beverly floating lifelessly in the air.

I thought it was real sick and disturbing that

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Pennywise from the tv instructed Henry to murder his father.

And one of the bullys, Patrick, he has a great death scene.

I think Beverly's first encounter with IT

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was one of the scariest. Imagine hair coming out from the bathroom sink, grabbing her, and spraying and flooding the entire bathroom with blood.

Beverly's father is real sick and twisted for trying to molest her and later raping?? her before she kicks him in the groin and smashes his head with something.


I like how in the end, the seven losers made a blood pact to come back if IT returns again.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I look at movie grades the same way I would look at a test grade in school.

A 3/5 equals 60%

In most schools, a 60% equates to a D or D- letter grade.

A D- is definitely rotten.

What an oppressive education system.

Seriously tho, 40% is the passing threshold in my country. At least in school and graduation level it is. In my graduation level, 'D' is the grade given for marks between (40-50). You score less than that and you get an 'F' and you fail to qualify in that subject.

I see people on here all the time saying things like "I loved this movie! I give it a 7/10!"

Really? If my professor gave me a 70% on a paper, in no way would I say that he loved my paper.

From 2017, I would give Lego Batman a 7 out of 10. I loved the movie. It was good. Definitely in no hurry to watch it again but someday if I get a chance to see it again, I will see it.

 

[OutOfBoose]

7.2/10 already after 89 reviews. As more reviews come in, most likely, it will bring it lower than The Conjuring. Conjuring is a very nice horror movie, but I expected more from IT.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

7.2/10 already after 89 reviews. As more reviews come in, most likely, it will bring it lower than The Conjuring. Conjuring is a very nice horror movie, but I expected more from IT.

The disappointment of 2017 continues. Might as well skip BR2049. That one will probably hurt the most.

 

[OutOfBoose]

The disappointment of 2017 continues. Might as well skip BR2049. That one will probably hurt the most.

I haven't seen the film yet, but I know I should tone down my expectations.

As for BR49, it's a long expected disappointment. I will be much more surprised if it lives up to the quality of the first film. Fury Road was a massive positive surprise. This one? We will see.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I haven't seen the film yet, but I know I should tone down my expectations.

As for BR49, it's a long expected disappointment. I will be much more surprised if it lives up to the quality of the first film. Fury Road was a massive positive surprise. This one? We will see.

What a killjoy.

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Anyway, I was just joking with you. I really hope both 'IT' & 'BR2049' live up to your expectations.

 

[Dyson]

7.2/10 already after 89 reviews. As more reviews come in, most likely, it will bring it lower than The Conjuring. Conjuring is a very nice horror movie, but I expected more from IT.

So if IT's final RT is under 86% or under 7.2/10, it will be considered a disappointment for you? Jeez. I hope BR 2049 is 95% or higher on RT to be considered a massive success for ya.

 

[OutOfBoose]

It's not really me, it's just people hype up almost every new film (especially those with good BO prospects) as some kind of an artistic sensation. I understand the need, but let's be real.

And I didn't say it's a disappointment. I'm just saying I'm not gonna expect Fury Road, The Shining or something like that from it quality-wise.

 

[terry78]

Did anyone expect the Shining to be an artistic sensation?

 

[Fallen Angel]

Boose has high standards. Be like Boose.

 

[danoyse]

Did anyone expect the Shining to be an artistic sensation?

It was nominated for Razzies...

 

[jed]

I really like the 80s reference in the movie.

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Such as the poster of "Gremlins" and "Bettlejuice" in Bill's bedroom.

And the poster of "New Kids on the Block" on Ben's bedroom door. Their song is also played in the movie.


Also, there is a scene where "Nightmare on Elm Street 5" is playing in the cinema.

 

[terry78]

Yeah, I feel like from a cynical standpoint they moved it to the 80s to cash in on hipster nostalgia, but it does give it much more of a "this coulda been me" feel. I have goddamn M.A.S.K. cars and NES cartridges from when I was younger still in my room tucked away somewhere. I also feel like it makes them more genre savvy in regards to horror.

 

[danoyse]

It's also more budget-friendly, rather than having to re-create two time periods for this and the sequel.

The reviews I've read so far seem to be praising the way they handled the 80s nostalgia, I'm looking forward to seeing that part of it now too.