Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - - - - - - - - - Part 28

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The one positive (???????) thing... Harley seems to be getting mostly positive reactions so that female spin-off movie could still happen. I think we can forget about a Suicide Squad sequel, unless WB cleans house and comes with a different approach.
I'd be disappointed if WB just drove this property into the ground and just salvaged Smith, Margot, Jared and Viola and threw them in a film with Ben Affleck or something. But that might be the best thing they can do if the film doesn't get a sequel and or Ayer is done with WB and they can't find a replacement. Suicide Squad had the potential to be something unique, something no other franchise could offer.

I would be interested in a Margot led HQ film but yeah.
 
One of the writers at the Hollywood reporter said a couple months ago that Kevin T. and Greg Silverman were on the hot seat will most likely be fired by the end of the year.
 
This guy has so much energy I am jealous of him. Will Smith rocks, regardless of what anyone else says about him

They say the Deadshot/Batman stuff are so good that you hope he pops up in a future Batman movie.
 
Really? These people do know that the characters are villains right?
No kidding.
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Don't know from who, though.
 
Some people are ready to do everything to make bait click.

Ayer's movie can be terrible, but I'm not going to hate him for using that quote because he is proud of the movie.
 
Norm Wilner ‏@normwilner

1. I can't help thinking this whole "how dare critics not like SUICIDE SQUAD" thing is the logical conclusion of social media bubbles.

2. The net encourages us to build our own communities, but those communities naturally tend towards like-minded isolation.

3. So there's "DC rocks, Marvel sucks" and "Marvel rules, DC drools", and each group fosters its own enthusiasms for things.

4. And people who spend a -lot- of time online get really invested in their thing being successful. It's the same tribalism as pro sports.

5. And just as it is with sports, you get hard stats mixed up with personal preferences and a great deal of magical thinking.

6. "Superman is awesome, why don't people love the new movie" is the same as "This team I like is THE BEST, why can't they win a series".

7. And because the overcommitted fan base for both comics and sports is predominantly male, there's also a streak of bro-based entitlement.

8. Factor in the marketing of SUICIDE SQUAD as "wicked awesome transgressive" and you can see how that might play into that psychology.

9. If you didn't like BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DEATH OF JOY, you didn't "get" what Zack Snyder was trying to do with the characters ...

10. ... but if you don't like SUICIDE SQUAD, you're a *****. I have yet to see the film; I'm just paraphrasing the response to critics.

11. It's more that they're finally being catered to after decades of being ignored, and they can't handle the power.

12. So now we're at a point where every single piece of information is treated as The Precious for fans to embrace or reject at will.

13. And when a given movie finally arrives, its quality is not as important as its statistical performance on Rotten Tomatoes.

14. Because what fans seek most is validation -- they want the world to agree with them that their chosen team or franchise is The Best.

15. It all comes down to an essential insecurity, which is why they're embracing superhero power fantasies in the first place.

16. And if you're on one side, then everyone else must be on the other side. Or on the other side's payroll, because what else explains it?

17. Which brings us back to the bubble, where bat**** conspiracy theories about Marvel payola explain the low ratings for recent DC movies.

18. If SUICIDE SQUAD -- which, I remind y'all, has yet to even play to a paying audience -- fails to top DEADPOOL, is that a conspiracy?

19. No, it is not. But good luck trying to tell people that when they've already built the story in their heads.

20. I mean, there are people who still think Bill Buckner was paid to bobble that grounder in 1986. But errors happen in sports ...

21. ... just as people's entertainment preferences are individualistic even when they're part of a herd. Some prefer DC, some prefer Marvel.

22. The domination of Marvel movies makes the DC boosters feel powerless and small. They're back to being losers. And they don't like it.
 
What is ? Having common sense ? I told you couple of days ago what will happen and the proof is all in this place.

The only reason you were able to "predict" what would happen is because you have your own narrative working in your head. It's like you won't even entertain the possibility that WB put out a sloppy product.

I don't know myself because I haven't seen it yet, but if MOST reviewers claim there are editing/pacing/whatever issues I doubt they're all seeing ghosts.
 
Arrogant Alien
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I don't think there is a bias against #DC, but I do believe they are held to a much higher, perhaps unfair, standard.

Or perhaps..... Just perhaps.... The movies just aren't good.

A stunning revelation, I couldn't believe it either
 
BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DEATH OF JOY
hahahahaa !!!!!
i love this. i'm using it in the future. hahahahh !!!!!
 
Sucks that the reviews are bad because I like this cast!
 
Or perhaps..... Just perhaps.... The movies just aren't good.

A stunning revelation, I couldn't believe it either

*Gasp* Unthinkable. It has to be a bias. Bribery. Anything but that!!!!!
 
One of the writers at the Hollywood reporter said a couple months ago that Kevin T. and Greg Silverman were on the hot seat will most likely be fired by the end of the year.

well he should be look at the WB films under Kevin Tsujihara's reign as president since Jan. 2013

Jack the Giant Slayer
Gangster Squad
Transcendence
Beautiful Creatures
Jupiter Ascending
Winter's Tale
Man Of Steel
300: Rise of an Empire
Hobbit Trilogy
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Suicide Squad
Pan
 
The amount of shameless condescension in this thread is truly astounding.
 
well he should be look at the WB films under Kevin Tsujihara's reign as president since Jan. 2013

Jack the Giant Slayer
Gangster Squad
Transcendence
Beautiful Creatures
Jupiter Ascending
Winter's Tale
Man Of Steel
300: Rise of an Empire
Hobbit Trilogy
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Suicide Squad
Pan

Yikes.
 
well he should be look at the WB films under Kevin Tsujihara's reign as president since Jan. 2013

Jack the Giant Slayer
Gangster Squad
Transcendence
Beautiful Creatures
Jupiter Ascending
Winter's Tale
Man Of Steel
300: Rise of an Empire
Hobbit Trilogy
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Suicide Squad
Pan

Transcendence alone merits a firing
 
that list is chilling. how much in the red are they at this point, or did they supplement income from other sources.
 
well he should be look at the WB films under Kevin Tsujihara's reign as president since Jan. 2013

Jack the Giant Slayer
Gangster Squad
Transcendence
Beautiful Creatures
Jupiter Ascending
Winter's Tale
Man Of Steel
300: Rise of an Empire
Hobbit Trilogy
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Suicide Squad
Pan

That's abysmal. He's got to go.
 
My worry is, it doesn't seem like this a film thats getting bashed from a creative direction standpoint, it seems like the movie's being bashed because it is a structural narrative mess. Like BvS' TC. Like Fant4stic. I can get over tone, story direction, dialogue, mediocre acting, but if the film structurally incoherent, that I can't excuse and have a big problem with. From what i hear, the second and third act are smushed together. Thats a significant problem.

For reference, the BvS TC cut upset me and I ended up loving the UC which FIXED the structural narrative problems.
 
well he should be look at the WB films under Kevin Tsujihara's reign as president since Jan. 2013

Jack the Giant Slayer
Gangster Squad
Transcendence
Beautiful Creatures
Jupiter Ascending
Winter's Tale
Man Of Steel
300: Rise of an Empire
Hobbit Trilogy
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Suicide Squad
Pan
oh my sweet stars

what a collection we have here
 
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