Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 29

[ManWithNoName18]

Makes me think Stuckmann is right about the final act being FF like.

Dude Stuckmann wrote the line "Tell that to Zodd's snapped neck" in 20 minutes

 

[DeadStroke]

If you're writing The Nice Guys, yeah 6 weeks works.If you're writing AND directing a gigantic tentpole action film, 6 weeks is nothing.

Take for instance Avengers infinity War. It doesnt start shooting until December. Yet the writers are 3+ drafts in already, months before anything is actually shot. there are sooo many moving parts to making these movies you need time to iron out all the kinks that pop up along the way.

I think Black Panther's first draft was done a year ago right?

 

[Marvolo]

Multiple cuts of Suicide Squad were being developed simultaneously

In May, Ayer's more somber version and a lighter, studio-favored version were tested with audiences in Northern California. "If there are multiple opinions that aren't in sync, you go down multiple tracks — two tracks at least," says an insider. "That was the case here for a period of time, always trying to get to a place where you have consensus." Those associated with the film insist Ayer agreed to and participated in the process. Once feedback on the two versions was analyzed, it became clear it was possible to get to "a very common-ground place." (The studio-favored version with more characters introduced early in the film and jazzed-up graphics won.) Getting to that place of consensus, however, required millions of dollars worth of additional photography.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/mul...squad-were-being-developed-simultaneously-214

So the studio version of BvS got a theatrical release and it was a mess. The studio version of Suicide Squad was released in theaters and it is apparently a mess. WB clearly doesnt know what the **** they are doing.

 

[BatSpider]

Dude Stuckmann wrote the line "Tell that to Zodd's snapped neck" in 20 minutes

Stuckmann's script write up is the epitome of entitled fanboys who think they know better

 

[Victarion]

Multiple cuts of Suicide Squad were being developed simultaneously



http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/mul...squad-were-being-developed-simultaneously-214

So the studio version of BvS got a theatrical release and it was a mess. The studio version of Suicide Squad was released in theaters and it is apparently a mess. WB clearly doesnt know what the **** they are doing.

90's looking movie with a 90's gimmick.

 

[WitchTrialz]

You guys are making my chest tight

I'm outta here man

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I'd like to see option #1 instead of #4 pls

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Stuckmann's script write up is the epitome of entitled fanboys who think they know better

Have you ever watched Stuckmann? He is the least entitled person I can imagine. Oh, he shared an idea of something he thought would work better? The entitlement!!!!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'd like to see option #1 instead of #4 pls

This is so true.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Multiple cuts of Suicide Squad were being developed simultaneously



http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/mul...squad-were-being-developed-simultaneously-214

So the studio version of BvS got a theatrical release and it was a mess. The studio version of Suicide Squad was released in theaters and it is apparently a mess. WB clearly doesnt know what the **** they are doing.

Well the director's version of BvS didn't work out any better. I'd say it is worse. The problem here is in pre-production imo. And who they hire of course.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Well the director's version of BvS didn't work out any better. I'd say it is worse. The problem here is in pre-production imo. And who they hire of course.

Exactly.

 

[TheVileOne]

Multiple cuts of Suicide Squad were being developed simultaneously



http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/mul...squad-were-being-developed-simultaneously-214

So the studio version of BvS got a theatrical release and it was a mess. The studio version of Suicide Squad was released in theaters and it is apparently a mess. WB clearly doesnt know what the **** they are doing.

But I thought they were supporting unique director-driven filmmaker approaches for the DCEU?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/batman-v-superman-married-creative-874799

Zack and [DC chief creative officer] Geoff Johns have outlined a timeline of where everybody is based off of, where our characters go in Justice League. So there's a framework. But it's filmmaker-driven, in that we want to hire direc*tors who still have a point of view and that have latitude because we don't want all the movies to feel the same. David Ayer has a certain tone and feel to what he brought to Suicide Squad, as does Patty [Jenkins] to Wonder Woman. They have freedom to tell their story in the way that it needs to be told.

ZACK Batman v. Superman was always a step*pingstone for Justice League, and it was a way to bring the worlds together without being too jarring. Once you say Batman and Superman exist in the same universe, you're also saying that Wonder Woman can exist in that world and Flash and Cyborg and Aquaman. Our philosophy, though, is it's filmmaker-driven. A lot of it comes from the idea of "do unto others." How would I feel if I was told, "Listen, this is your movie, but shoot it like we say"? It's not fun and cool, and I don't think you get the best work from everybody. To understand that, there is a bigger storyline, and let's all support that and not blow up the entire universe because you have an idea that you think is awesome but doesn't make sense with the bigger thing.

 

[Marvolo]

90's looking movie with a 90's gimmick.

I dont know about it being a 90s looking movie, but the way WB is handling these films (trying to make multiple versions at once and releasing the ****** studio approved version) is straight out of the Tom Rothman playbook.

 

[Victarion]

But I thought they were supporting unique director-driven filmmaker approaches for the DCEU?

That might mean an Ultimate Cut in every pot.

Hueyposting is the new Baneposting.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

By the way, on the final color scheme for Suicide Squad marketing. They saw people liked Harley, so they just went all in on that.

 

[Victarion]

By the way, on the final color scheme for Suicide Squad marketing. They saw people liked Harley, so they just went all in on that.

Color scheme is interesting. Look at the first official trailer, and the subway creature's really neony. Look at the TV Spots, and its got a darker, kinda ashy look to it.

@Marvolo: I think it was the green poster with the squad posed as the skull's mouth/nostrils that someone described as 90esque. And it seems like director's cuts were a thing in the 90's. In this case, I really do hope we get a DC. I'm checking my expectations for what I'll see in IMAX, but I'm hoping to come away with at least two movies from the DCEU that I've enjoyed.

 

[Aquafinn90]

Well the director's version of BvS didn't work out any better. I'd say it is worse. The problem here is in pre-production imo. And who they hire of course.

I'm not saying this to disrespect your opinion, however you are very much in the minority on that.(which is fine, as I often am in my opinion of movies, but its a fact)- its nearly unanimously agreed upon the the UC is better, what people disagree on is how much. For some its only a bit, for others they did a complete 180. I've stated before that if there wasn't a different cut on Blu-ray later this year initially planned, then I think at the very least there is going to be some discussion of it now, considering how much better the UC of BVS went over- and how high Blu-ray sales were ratio-wise.

 

[harryoscop]

I'd like to see option #1 instead of #4 pls

#Truth

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I dont know about it being a 90s looking movie, but the way WB is handling these films (trying to make multiple versions at once and releasing the ****** studio approved version) is straight out of the Tom Rothman playbook.

It is almost like they don't have a plan...

That is right everyone, even my beloved SPIDEY. I was right. I told you they didn't have a plan. I will now start accepting the apologies for all the, "He's crazy, he's a troll" post.

 

[Marvolo]

Well the director's version of BvS didn't work out any better. I'd say it is worse. The problem here is in pre-production imo. And who they hire of course.

We'll have to agree to disagree there. I thought the extended cut of BvS was a solid 7.5-8/10 (I gave the TC was a 5/10) and enjoyed the extended version more than even TDKR.

Ayer isnt a hack nor is he style over substance. If this film had issues Im willing to bet it was studio interference, and not something that happened during pre-production.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

It is almost like they don't have a plan...

That is right everyone, even my beloved SPIDEY. I was right. I told you they didn't have a plan. I will now start accepting the apologies for all the, "He's crazy, he's a troll" post.

In my defense, since last year I've been thinking "Do they actually have a plan?"

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Color scheme is interesting. Look at the first official trailer, and the subway creature's really neony. Look at the TV Spots, and its got a darker, kinda ashy look to it.

@Marvolo: I think it was the green poster with the squad posed as the skull's mouth/nostrils that someone described as 90esque. And it seems like director's cuts were a thing in the 90's. In this case, I really do hope we get a DC. I'm checking my expectations for what I'll see in IMAX, but I'm hoping to come away with at least two movies from the DCEU that I've enjoyed.

I never noticed that. That probably has more to do with the effects not being finished, but that is interesting.

 

[Victarion]

I never noticed that. That probably has more to do with the effects not being finished, but that is interesting.

I don't think the change is a mistake. There's also a TV spot where you get a full body shot of the creature wrecking an army humvee. In that one its also ashy, almost wrought-irony looking.

I kind of wonder what's meant by the test audiences preferring more characters introduced early on. In the 2015 reel for comicon with the kinda sombre tone, it looks like all our current players were already there.

 

[Marvolo]

Color scheme is interesting. Look at the first official trailer, and the subway creature's really neony. Look at the TV Spots, and its got a darker, kinda ashy look to it.

@Marvolo: I think it was the green poster with the squad posed as the skull's mouth/nostrils that someone described as 90esque. And it seems like director's cuts were a thing in the 90's. In this case, I really do hope we get a DC. I'm checking my expectations for what I'll see in IMAX, but I'm hoping to come away with at least two movies from the DCEU that I've enjoyed.

Sadly it seems like we are going to be relying on a Directors Cut to save the day for this film as well.

If it happens with Wonder Woman Im not even going to bother with JL1. Im not dropping cash for a lesser theatrical version. It happening once or twice I can roll with, but a continuous pattern of ****** theatrical cuts and quality extended cuts and Im going to start giving WB the finger and waiting for the blu-ray.

The bad thing is that Extended Cuts are never guaranteed. If Ayer doesnt want to do one then we will be stuck with just this theatrical cut. This is why WB should always make sure the theatrical cut is as good as it can be.

 

[TheVileOne]

Just make one good movie and release it in theaters.