Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 32

[Flint Marko]

Generally I think that if you enjoyed BvS, you're going to enjoy SS. Some will inevitably disagree, but they suffer from similar issues and if BvS wasn't ruined for you by said issues then you're in for a good time.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I still have to wait until Tuesday. My patience was wearing out and I saw a little leaked clip between [BLACKOUT]Joker and Harley at ACE chemicals[/BLACKOUT]. Hauntingly beautiful.

Oh man, I hope I don't get my expectations up.

I'm seeing SS tomorrow and it's killing me. The wait is unbearable now.

 

[Zero_Effect]

Not domestically. Tracking had it at least $145m+

Nope. It was only 145 after Friday numbers.

 

[brandeezy89]

Problem for us and WB is if they decided to reboot the universe this soon, who would want to sign on after hearing all the things happening in production? All i see happening is them casting no name directors and actors who have nothing to lose or they just stop making DC films for at least 5 or so years

 

[FunkMiller]

Generally I think that if you enjoyed BvS, you're going to enjoy SS. Some will inevitably disagree, but they suffer from similar issues and if BvS wasn't ruined for you by said issues then you're in for a good time.

Exactly. Enjoying DC movies is all about ignoring the glaring issues. If you can do that, good for you, you'll have a good time. The rest of us:

 

[JtheDreamer]

Exactly. Enjoying DC movies is all about ignoring the glaring issues. If you can do that, good for you, you'll have a good time.

Seriously. If I had a dime for every time I've seen someone say that. I don't get the logic. At some point the issues start to pile up and are just too hard to ignore. Only people able to dimiss them are those who are just happy to see their favorite characters on screen or don't really demand much from a filmmaking standpoint.

 

[Sleiek]

Exactly. Enjoying DC movies is all about ignoring the glaring issues. If you can do that, good for you, you'll have a good time. The rest of us:

It's not about ignoring issues, it's about noticing them. This is why many in the GA are confused about the critics. They are clueless because they don't see them as issues.

 

[Aquafinn90]

What I see as filmmaking "flaws" are minimal enough in MOS and BVS UC. However, I don't think they can be ignored in SS and BVS TC. But considering I don't think we are getting an improved cut of SS that's what really blows.

 

[The Joker]

Generally I think that if you enjoyed BvS, you're going to enjoy SS. Some will inevitably disagree, but they suffer from similar issues and if BvS wasn't ruined for you by said issues then you're in for a good time.

Generally I think that's true, but there is always some small exceptions. Like the member Annefan liked BvS, but didn't care for SS at all.

Its similar with the UC for BvS. Generally it only works for people who already liked the TC. But there have been some minority exceptions.

 

[C. Lee]

Okay, I hope you don't take this the wrong way. . . but every time you show up in Mod Mode, I can't help but get the mental image of a large, noisy, chaotic convention. . . and keeping the peace is a great big Clark Savage Jr, looking slightly older and occasionally crotchety. Yelling at the crowd to keep it in order, and occasionally dealing out a helping of fists and mercy bullets.

That sounds about right.

 

[Flint Marko]

Generally I think that's true, but there is always some small exceptions. Like the member Annefan liked BvS, but didn't care for SS at all.

Its similar with the UC for BvS. Generally it only works for people who already liked the TC. But there have been some minority exceptions.

I believe I SEE SPIDEY was the inverse of Annefan, but yes, I'd wager that these are the exceptions. Personally I'm looking forward to The Guard's glowing review of Suicide Squad.

 

[idiot09]

What I see as filmmaking "flaws" are minimal enough in MOS and BVS UC. However, I don't think they can be ignored in SS and BVS TC. But considering I don't think we are getting an improved cut of SS that's what really blows.

Agreed.MOS and BvS UC didnt have much film making flaws,they were solid movies with good storytelling and editing.SS and BvS TC on the other hand are surely flawed.

 

[Broseph44]

Knowing you - there is zero chance you won't like it. LOL

Probably. I can acknowledge problems like in BvS. Theatrical cut was badly paced and edited because of the cuts made. There was really only 1 scene that Lex worked for me, etc. But the UE was awesome and fixed a lot of things. Didn't fix Lex so I still didn't really care for him, but I still think BvS UE is great.

With SS it sucks that once again they've chopped scenes out and all that, that bothers me. I just wanna see the team and these characters. The fact that the villain is a little weak to me is fine when it comes to a film like this. Wasn't expecting some great villain to begin with. I just wanna have some fun with these characters. So yeah I probably will like it

 

[Nemeres]

Man of Steel is very messy straight from scene I. BVS, even the UC, is a wormy apple. This whole line of films has been relying on surface value alone -- edgy Superman reboot, first Supes/Bats meet-up, first villain-only CBM -- and undervaluing aspects that allow films to be effective self-sustaining narratives in the traditional sense. What mostly they leave behind is audiences stuck in a non-stop process of questioning and defending, questioning and defending. It's indicative of the flawed standards of the whole WB team, who keeps failing at producing what they think they're producing.

 

[Leenie]

Generally I think that if you enjoyed BvS, you're going to enjoy SS. Some will inevitably disagree, but they suffer from similar issues and if BvS wasn't ruined for you by said issues then you're in for a good time.

I liked Suicide Squad considerably more than Batman v Superman (which I consider to be one of the worst comic book movies ever; I hate it).

Don't get me wrong, I think Suicide Squad is objectively a poorly made/constructed film, but I think the film has some redeeming qualities (Harley, Deadshot, Amanda Waller ...). That's a lot more than what I can say about Batman v Superman.

 

[JtheDreamer]

Probably. I can acknowledge problems like in BvS. Theatrical cut was badly paced and edited because of the cuts made. There was really only 1 scene that Lex worked for me, etc. But the UE was awesome and fixed a lot of things. Didn't fix Lex so I still didn't really care for him, but I still think BvS UE is great.

With SS it sucks that once again they've chopped scenes out and all that, that bothers me. I just wanna see the team and these characters. The fact that the villain is a little weak to me is fine when it comes to a film like this. Wasn't expecting some great villain to begin with. I just wanna have some fun with these characters. So yeah I probably will like it

Just in it for the characters - story and villain be damned right? haha

 

[RadioSha]

That Grace Randolph person loved BvS but hated SS....

 

[LoganGambit87]

Exactly. Enjoying DC movies is all about ignoring the glaring issues. If you can do that, good for you, you'll have a good time. The rest of us:

it has nothing to do with ignoring them its acknowledging them but admitting it didn't affect your enjoyment of the movie sometimes the good outweighs the bad

for example in Suicide Squad had many people who love the performances,chemistry,team dynamic,the fun,and the action so much that the messy plot and villain doesn't bother them as much due to all the positives

hard concept the grasp i know

 

[Juan1193]

5 more hours to go until I see it!! The wait is killing me lol I can't wait!

 

[Predator jp]

That Grace Randolph person loved BvS but hated SS....

so did exIGN guy Greg Miller.
he and Grace raved BvS but absolutely hated SS.

 

[FunkMiller]

it has nothing to do with ignoring them its acknowledging them but admitting it didn't affect your enjoyment of the movie sometimes the good outweighs the bad

hard concept the grasp i know

....so, acknowledging faults, but not letting them affect your enjoyment. So you're not allowing those faults to affect your enjoyment... or disregarding those faults, or not paying attention to those faults... or... come on, now... what's another word for all of that?

Jeez.

 

[idiot09]

I liked BvS UC and MOS considerably more than Suicide Squad.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

I'm seeing this for the characters but as for the story itself, we'll see.

 

[Broseph44]

Just in it for the characters - story and villain be damned right? haha

No not be damned, I'm saying for me those do matter to an extent. But when it comes to a lot of cbm I don't always need a strong villain. Do I love when we get an awesome memorable strong villain? Of course. But for myself personally I don't need that every single time. Works just fine on my end sometimes to have a villain who is basically there just to be the antagonist. I know how that sounds but hey, my opinion.

And of course story matters. And I've heard that as a complaint of this film the story is weak. I'll see for myself, I can see flaws and still enjoy things a lot you know. Is the story for BvS amazing? No, but it's more fleshed out in the UE and much better there than it was in the theatrical. And I can enjoy and appreciate that.

What's the problem?

 

[LoganGambit87]

....so, acknowledging faults, but not letting them affect your enjoyment. So you're not allowing those faults to affect your enjoyment... or disregarding those faults, or not paying attention to those faults... or... come on, now... what's another word for all of that?

Jeez.

good lord how dense can you get you realize not everyone is gonna share your opinion you can acknowledge flaws in a movie and still have fun with the positives parts of it,its called the good outweighing the bad no one is sticking their head in the sand and acting like these flaws dont exist and aren't there just at the end of the day the positives outweigh the negatives