Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 32

[Greens]

This thing was missing a standout action set piece. Something that made you go "oh **** thats badass!" MoS had the Smallville fight, BvS had the warehouse sequence, this was missing something like those. It was just too much beating CGI putties.

Agreed. The action was competent, but I think a different director would have done better in that regard.

 

[Greens]

They sort of subtly hinted at it, a little earlier. When Katana has him pinned against the wall, he catches a boomerang he threw moments before. Without pause, he says, "it's what I do". One of the rare moments of cleverness.

Yeah I liked it, but a lot of people assumed WB must have cut Boomer's change of mind as well. I don't blame them

 

[Boom]

They should have doubled down on the Joker or not have used him at all.

I'd take him out of the movie. Have Harley tell stories about her "puddin'" throughout the film, then as a post credits scene show him break her out of jail. Let the Joker reveal be the last thing people see.

There's my two cents.

 

[Greens]

I'd take him out of the movie. Have Harley tell stories about her "puddin'" throughout the film, then as a post credits scene show him break her out of jail.

There's my two cents.

That would have been bad-ass as a first tease.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

I liked Harley's little elavator scene, as well as Deadshoot using his wrist guns on top of the car as everyone pauses to look at him.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

I'd take him out of the movie. Have Harley tell stories about her "puddin'" throughout the film, then as a post credits scene show him break her out of jail. Let the last thing the audience sees be the Joker reveal.

There's my two cents.

The Joker was a weird mix of a cameo and important minor character in the movie. Reminded me of Wonder Woman's role in BVS.

 

[Greens]

I liked Harley's little elavator scene, as well as Deadshoot using his wrist guns on top of the car.

The music in the elevator scene made it feel tacked on. It wasn't, but did they really need to use a song for THAT?

 

[Jekecy]

The music in the elevator scene made it feel tacked on. It wasn't, but did they really need to use a song for THAT?

Market research at its finest.

 

[Boom]

The Joker was a weird mix of a cameo and important minor character in the movie. Reminded me of Wonder Woman's role in BVS.

Not even a minor important character. Seriously, cut him out completely and nothing changes except for the scene where

Spoiler

Harley's bomb gets disarmed and she tries to escape. But guess what? After that scene, she ends up back with the squad and getting her bomb disarmed anyway.

So yeah. Completely pointless.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

Really thought he was going to come back in the climax to screw stuff up. Especially given the trailer showed a joker with burned face in That subway terminal.

 

[writer0327]

I'm sorry, but Flag was not useless. He was one of the main characters and serves as the straight man to the Squad. Katana could have been removed, I agree. Even in the novelization (the original script, supposedly) she doesn't do much until the third act.

I never said Flag was useless, I said he was boring and uninteresting. I couldn't care less about his romance with June. It felt like it was shoehorned into this story to give some kind of true human emotion outside of Deadshot. His character is useful and important in the comics but in this film, not so much.

They should have doubled down on the Joker or not have used him at all.

I agree, no Joker would have been better than what we got.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I agree, no Joker would have been better than what we got.

 

[Primal Slayer]

The action sequences didn't stand out to me. They all seemed really generic.

 

[Jekecy]

The action sequences didn't stand out to me. They all seemed really generic.

The Batmobile chase was particularly offensive. Joker turned like two corners and then crashed. The hell was that?!

 

[writer0327]

The action sequences didn't stand out to me. They all seemed really generic.

Very generic. Mostly shooting and fist fights. Two helicopter crashes. A laser light show in the sky.

Typical, non-threatening, non-ground breaking comic book movie fare.

 

[daddydivine]

I never said Flag was useless, I said he was boring and uninteresting. I couldn't care less about his romance with June. It felt like it was shoehorned into this story to give some kind of true human emotion outside of Deadshot. His character is useful and important in the comics but in this film, not so much.


I agree, no Joker would have been better than what we got.

Well I mostly agree. I think no Joker until his very last scene. Should have made it a surprise cameo.

Edit: someone already said the exact same thing...

 

[Greens]

Welp, I just finished the novelization and there's no appearance by Joker at the end. I guess we'll never know what that scene entailed unless they decide to include it with the deleted scenes on the Blu-ray, which I doubt.

 

[Xrated48]

Do you guys know if the extended cut will be released.

 

[Guts]

Welp, I just finished the novelization and there's no appearance by Joker at the end. I guess we'll never know what that scene entailed unless they decide to include it with the deleted scenes on the Blu-ray, which I doubt.

Do you mean that Joker doesn't break out Harley or he doesn't show up at the train station.

 

[Greens]

Do you guys know if the extended cut will be released.

Don't count on it. They will release some deleted material.

 

[tanita_mors]

Welp, I just finished the novelization and there's no appearance by Joker at the end. I guess we'll never know what that scene entailed unless they decide to include it with the deleted scenes on the Blu-ray, which I doubt.

so, she is just in prison with the rest of squad. no rescue.

 

[Greens]

Do you mean that Joker doesn't break out Harley or he doesn't show up at the train station.

There's no train station scene. It's weird because there's a LOT of other additional Joker material in the book. Including a short part where they show him after he jumped out of the helicopter.

 

[Greens]

so, she is just in prison with the rest of squad. no rescue.

Should have clarified, the BUH-BYE scene isn't in there.

 

[writer0327]

I can say this.....I enjoyed the "Suicide Squad" episode of Arrow much, much more than I enjoyed this.

This should have been a 100% character driven movie. The problem is they inserted way too many characters and had too long of a lead in for those characters without a lot of emotional payoff. El Diablo seemed to be a character that could have been far more fascinating but he was just a footnote. I really wanted to see more of him, but all we got were flashbacks and a fight scene at the end.

Ayer is better than this.

 

[tanita_mors]

maybe it was a later addition before they decided to reshoot the whole 3 act battle.