Supergirl Supergirl General Discussion Thread - Part 3

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[Supergirl]

For anybody who's interested, the comic series that I put as the best run of Sueprgirl ever written is getting uploaded to Comixology one issue a week until December. The first issue went up today. https://www.comixology.com/The-Daring-New-Adventures-of-Supergirl-1982-1984/comics-series/51812

 

[Gee]

Cool. Hopefully they recollect that run in a trade like they're doing with PAD's run.

 

[Supergirl]

I certainly hope so. It'd be a shame if they touched up the colors just to put it out digitally. I have all the single issues, but I plan on buying the digital ones too, because the colors make it look so pretty. The art is by Carmine Infantino, too, so there's that.

 

[Kelly]

For anybody who's interested, the comic series that I put as the best run of Sueprgirl ever written is getting uploaded to Comixology one issue a week until December. The first issue went up today. https://www.comixology.com/The-Daring-New-Adventures-of-Supergirl-1982-1984/comics-series/51812

Thank you for the heads up...

 

[Supergirl]

No problem. The more people I can get to discover this series the better.

 

[Obi-Ron]

Great series

 

[5red]

For anybody who's interested, the comic series that I put as the best run of Sueprgirl ever written is getting uploaded to Comixology one issue a week until December. The first issue went up today. https://www.comixology.com/The-Daring-New-Adventures-of-Supergirl-1982-1984/comics-series/51812

Funny, I recommended this to Kelly only a few days ago. After a lot of second-rate or ill-judged runs in various titles, this is the one series when they actually take the character seriously. Not only is it possibly the most mature and ambitious version of Supergirl produced, it is also one of the best comicbooks of its era IMHO.

It's timely that they release it now, as the series is very superficially close to how it seems the producers want the tv show to be structured -- although I'm not sure there was a deliberate attempt to base the show on this book (I think Greg Berlanti has said he only really started to notice Supergirl as a character when she was killed in Crisis on Infinite Earths, so how encyclopaedic his knowledge is of pre-Crisis stuff I don't know.) The series tries to create separate but parallel storylines for Linda as a normal woman and Supergirl as a heroine, which is I suspect how the tv show is trying to work things.

Quick overview: Tired of her time as a Secret Hearts soap starlet (Superman Family), Linda reboots her life by moving from New York to Chicago and going back to school as a mature student, while consciously trying to minimise the time she spends in costume. The series surrounds Linda Danvers with a large cast of friends, acquaintances, and even a steady boyfriend, and mostly (but not entirely!) resists the temptation to mix them up in her Supergirl antics. Although it has a lot of out-n-out comicbook fantasy, there's also a darker tone and occasionally it touches on heavyweight issues like antisemitism (Linda's landlady is Jewish.)

And just when it was starting to get really good... the @&%$ards kill her off in Crisis. I've never forgiven DC for that.

R5

 

[GL's Light]

Fun fact: there's a character in that early 80s Supergirl series named after comic book writer John Ostrander, who would go on to write Suicide Squad.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Supergirl to introduce another Super character who isn't Superman or Lois Lane.

TVLine has learned that the third episode of CBS’ freshman superhero series will introduce the recurring character of Lucy Lane. In her mid-20s to early 30s, Lucy is described as as brash, funny and beautiful as her sister Lois, yet strong, smart and successful in her own right.
She is also, in keeping with DC Comics lore, an ex-girlfriend of Kara’s (Melissa Benoist) new CatCo media conglom colleague, Daily News transplant Jimmy Olsen (played by Mehcad Brooks).

At the very least, given Supegirl Lucy LaneKara’s insta-crush on Jimmy in the series pilot, some semblance of a triangle may be in Supergirl’s future. Or, possibly much more is on tap, given that Lucy Lane is one of several DC Comics characters to have adopted the Superwoman mantle, manipulated as she was into a run of anti-Supergirl villainy by her father General Sam Lane.
Lucy was most recently portrayed on TV on The CW’s Smallville, by Peyton List (now The Flash‘s Lisa Snart). Who should play her on Supergirl?

http://tvline.com/2015/07/18/supergirl-season-1-cast-lucy-lane

 

[Kelly]

Supergirl to introduce another Super character who isn't Superman or Lois Lane.

Very interesting....

 

[Fallen Angel]

Lois Lane would be embargoed as well.

I doubt any of the major characters would show up in this. I know Superman is in this to an extent but he won't be shown often and when he is it will be from distance or something.

 

[Majik1387]

Can we just write Jimmy out of the show? Or at least avoid the whole shoe horned love interest they're horribly attempting?

 

[Boy Scout]

There isn't any good reason to write Jimmy out of the show yet.

RE: Lucy Lane: I've never cared about her, and I don't expect tha to change any time soon. Here's hoping she'll have more to do than instigate a love triangle nobody will care about.

Seriously, what is it with the obsession with love triangles? They're honestly not that interesting.

 

[Majik1387]

The fact that he is literally the only character that feels shoe-horned in, yeah, I think that's reason enough.

 

[Kelly]

Can we just write Jimmy out of the show? Or at least avoid the whole shoe horned love interest they're horribly attempting?

Well, since I haven't seen that yet, I'm not going to judge it. I'm looking forward to that kind of thing as a side story...it's not like its going to take over the entire hour. Just another layer to the story. Sounds interesting to me. I really like the character of James Olson.

 

[Kelly]

The fact that he is literally the only character that feels shoe-horned in, yeah, I think that's reason enough.

But, that's not really a "reason" just because you don't like the character. I don't feel he's shoe-horned in at all, he is Kara's connection to her cousin, I think that is important to the story.

 

[Kelly]

There isn't any good reason to write Jimmy out of the show yet.

RE: Lucy Lane: I've never cared about her, and I don't expect tha to change any time soon. Here's hoping she'll have more to do than instigate a love triangle nobody will care about.

Seriously, what is it with the obsession with love triangles? They're honestly not that interesting.

But to the demographic of 18-49 year old women, they are quite interesting... And as I said before, if its simply a side story, then why worry about it so much...it certainly, from what all I've heard is not going to be the main storyline. So, let it play out...

 

[Majik1387]

Well, since I haven't seen that yet, I'm not going to judge it. I'm looking forward to that kind of thing as a side story...it's not like its going to take over the entire hour. Just another layer to the story. Sounds interesting to me. I really like the character of James Olson.

I like the character of Jimmy Olsen; he makes me think of Archie Andrews in Metropolis.
I found the ethnicity change unnecessary, but nothing major. The whole love interest angle that was written so bleh into the pilot though, that completely detached from everything and not in a side story way; it was just so tacked on.
I'll say attitude-wise, he's still nothing like Jimmy, but I'm hoping that changes in future episodes.

But, that's not really a "reason" just because you don't like the character. I don't feel he's shoe-horned in at all, he is Kara's connection to her cousin, I think that is important to the story.

Eh, I'm kinda tired of the older black guy being the words of wisdom for the hero trope, and that's all he is in the pilot.

 

[Kelly]

I like the character of Jimmy Olsen; he makes me think of Archie Andrews in Metropolis.
I found the ethnicity change unnecessary, but nothing major. The whole love interest angle that was written so bleh into the pilot though, that completely detached from everything and not in a side story way; it was just so tacked on.
I'll say attitude-wise, he's still nothing like Jimmy, but I'm hoping that changes in future episodes.

Eh, I'm kinda tired of the older black guy being the words of wisdom for the hero trope, and that's all he is in the pilot.

The only time I noticed any kind of love interest with Kara and James was when she says "Wapow"...which I thought was cute as it could be...a fav moment actually. Maybe at the end, but I really saw that more as respect, not a love interest. But, if it develops, that is fine with me.

I'm not sure what you mean with the older black guy being the words of wisdom. What other show are you talking about?

 

[Supergirl]

Funny, I recommended this to Kelly only a few days ago. After a lot of second-rate or ill-judged runs in various titles, this is the one series when they actually take the character seriously. Not only is it possibly the most mature and ambitious version of Supergirl produced, it is also one of the best comicbooks of its era IMHO.

It's timely that they release it now, as the series is very superficially close to how it seems the producers want the tv show to be structured -- although I'm not sure there was a deliberate attempt to base the show on this book (I think Greg Berlanti has said he only really started to notice Supergirl as a character when she was killed in Crisis on Infinite Earths, so how encyclopaedic his knowledge is of pre-Crisis stuff I don't know.) The series tries to create separate but parallel storylines for Linda as a normal woman and Supergirl as a heroine, which is I suspect how the tv show is trying to work things.

Quick overview: Tired of her time as a Secret Hearts soap starlet (Superman Family), Linda reboots her life by moving from New York to Chicago and going back to school as a mature student, while consciously trying to minimise the time she spends in costume. The series surrounds Linda Danvers with a large cast of friends, acquaintances, and even a steady boyfriend, and mostly (but not entirely!) resists the temptation to mix them up in her Supergirl antics. Although it has a lot of out-n-out comicbook fantasy, there's also a darker tone and occasionally it touches on heavyweight issues like antisemitism (Linda's landlady is Jewish.)

And just when it was starting to get really good... the @&%$ards kill her off in Crisis. I've never forgiven DC for that.

R5

150% agreed. It's by far my favorite run on any Supergirl book, though Sterling Gates's run was also really good. I own the paper copies all 23 issues, and will be buying them digitally too, because the retouched colors just look so pretty.

 

[Kelly]

Funny, I recommended this to Kelly only a few days ago. After a lot of second-rate or ill-judged runs in various titles, this is the one series when they actually take the character seriously. Not only is it possibly the most mature and ambitious version of Supergirl produced, it is also one of the best comicbooks of its era IMHO.

It's timely that they release it now, as the series is very superficially close to how it seems the producers want the tv show to be structured -- although I'm not sure there was a deliberate attempt to base the show on this book (I think Greg Berlanti has said he only really started to notice Supergirl as a character when she was killed in Crisis on Infinite Earths, so how encyclopaedic his knowledge is of pre-Crisis stuff I don't know.) The series tries to create separate but parallel storylines for Linda as a normal woman and Supergirl as a heroine, which is I suspect how the tv show is trying to work things.

Quick overview: Tired of her time as a Secret Hearts soap starlet (Superman Family), Linda reboots her life by moving from New York to Chicago and going back to school as a mature student, while consciously trying to minimise the time she spends in costume. The series surrounds Linda Danvers with a large cast of friends, acquaintances, and even a steady boyfriend, and mostly (but not entirely!) resists the temptation to mix them up in her Supergirl antics. Although it has a lot of out-n-out comicbook fantasy, there's also a darker tone and occasionally it touches on heavyweight issues like antisemitism (Linda's landlady is Jewish.)

And just when it was starting to get really good... the @&%$ards kill her off in Crisis. I've never forgiven DC for that.

R5

Yep...

 

[Majik1387]

The only time I noticed any kind of love interest with Kara and James was when she says "Wapow"...which I thought was cute as it could be...a fav moment actually. Maybe at the end, but I really saw that more as respect, not a love interest. But, if it develops, that is fine with me.

The end was so badly written and cringe-worthy.

I'm not sure what you mean with the older black guy being the words of wisdom. What other show are you talking about?

Morgan Freeman in everything, Laurence Fishbourne in the Matrix movies, Michael Clark Duncan in The Green Mile; hell even Key & Peele make fun of it on their show at one point.

 

[Lencho01]

Is Jimmy even supposed to be a love interest? He comes off as a big brother to me. At least in the pilot anyway.