Supergirl returns?

[Justice Bringer]

Vulnerable and naive is the way to go. This is an origins story and shes a 16 yr old kid whos just getting used to her powers and this world.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

The vulnerable and naive I dont' want to see is the Helen Slater one. She looked like a deer stuck in headlights.

At age 16, she should know a little something about the dual nature of humanity. Enough not to walk down a dark alleyway.

Dealing with powers is something else entirely. Learning how not to break a glass with super strength would be great.

 

[DrayvensCrow]

The vulnerable and naive I dont' want to see is the Helen Slater one. She looked like a deer stuck in headlights.

Assuming we're using Current Continuity as a baseline, Kara is somewhat vulnerable and naive without the deer in the headlights thing. She's coming to a world where Kal should be a child but won't be, knows nothing about the culture or even if there are others like her and Kal.

At age 16, she should know a little something about the dual nature of humanity. Enough not to walk down a dark alleyway.

Growing up on Krypton, she'd have that already(depending on what version of Krypton the screenwriter is drawing from).

Dealing with powers is something else entirely. Learning how not to break a glass with super strength would be great.

This is where we're getting back into Helen Slater territory again. Again, assuming we're using CC, has she been tought this before she left Krypton or is it the ship's on-board computer having done it?

 

[TheComicbookKid]

That's what is great about comics. Multiple interpretations to call on, and what would work from just a storytelling standpoint.

 

[TwilightPro101]

Vulnerable and naive is the way to go. This is an origins story and shes a 16 yr old kid whos just getting used to her powers and this world.

Not necessarily. There's four or five different takes on the character as it is.

 

[Justice Bringer]

but Kara Zor-El was always vulnerable and naive at first; like a child in a world she was adapting too.....as well as adapting to her powers. I dont care about the other versions; Kara Zor-El is the REAL Supergirl and the only one I wana see. DC realized this; thats why they brought her back and got rid of the posers.

 

[TwilightPro101]

You can't just limit versions considering this is a screen version. They'll change her as they feel fit and knowing the WB, their going to limit anything especially if they hire the right writer for the project.

One can't easily limit one's self to strictly one version. It's just like what they did with Smallville. Besides this is a feature length movie, we're talking about here.

 

[Justice Bringer]

Ya but you still have to stay true to the character and I cant see DC approving the use of the other Supergirls after going to such painstaking efforts to get rid of all of them and bring the original Kara Zor-El (Superman's cousin) back. Its very unlikely theyll use Linda Danvers, Cir-El, or Matrix......unless they want this to flop.

 

[TwilightPro101]

The thing is all we have right now is nothing more than speculation and theories.

Yes, I could see Kara Zor-El as well, but that doesn't mean they'll limit themselves. It didn't stop them from giving the Helen Slater version.

 

[Justice Bringer]

Uhh wasnt the Helen Slater version Kara Zor-El has well? She was pretty much characterized like the traditional Kara Zor-El from the early comics at the time too.

 

[TwilightPro101]

Modified to the movie series standard. Keyword: modified.

 

[DrayvensCrow]

OK so we adjust our baseline to what?

 

[TwilightPro101]

It's whatever the studio is going to want. All we're doing is filling a speculative void. For the time being we're all right in our way since there hasn't been a film announced.

The only way we can judge against it at the moment is fan films, which is a mixed bag to say the least.

We've all got our posutlations and theories. We should be trying to get the studio to get a film going.

 

[DrayvensCrow]

OK, so we start a movement that the Studios will pay attention to: Anyone got a extra million laying around? I got a great idea for a TV spot!
I was involved in the BoP drive and we sent thousands upon thousands of comics to WB just to have them ignore us and chuck the comics. What we'd have to do is somewhere Serenity and Jericho.....

 

[TwilightPro101]

Off topic, but Serenity actually has a new comic series coming off by Whedon and Matthews.

BoP was just getting interesting too near the end. Hated that, but the WB and the Producer's didn't know what they were doing.

This one depends mainly on the success of the Superman movies as far as I know. Unless their attention is drawn or something along those lines.

 

[DrayvensCrow]

....but the WB and the Producer's didn't know what they were doing.

This one depends mainly on the success of the Superman movies as far as I know. Unless their attention is drawn or something along those lines.

If you only knew....

Alright. Got any ideas? Send them pink 'S' shields? Photoshop pics of Routh as SG?

 

[TwilightPro101]

There's hundreds of ways to get them hooked. It's just getting the info to the right people at the studio.

 

[DrayvensCrow]

There's hundreds of ways to get them hooked.

So you're saying drug them? t:

 

[Steelsheen]

If you only knew....

Alright. Got any ideas? Send them pink 'S' shields? Photoshop pics of Routh as SG?

didnt someone already do that?

 

[DrayvensCrow]

That was self-medication. LOL

 

[Jordacar]

I've racked my brain about it for a long time, but I finally have an idea to revise Kara's origin. Here goes:

Kara is in a ship on a survey mission by herself, probably for her dad (this could show her as kind of a Kryptonian nerd, and a chance to see some more Kryptonian tech). She gets back to Argos (a colonized planet near Krypton) and finds that it's been wiped out. She follows the path of destruction (her ship's radiation sensors light up) back to Krypton to find (shock! horror!) it's gone.

After the initial shock that she may be the last of her race, she tells the computer to search for survivors, anything at all. The sensors pick up a faint trail left by a single Kryptonian ship, and the energy signitures of the trail match Jor-El's designs ("Kal?"). She maps the trajectory of the trail, finding it leads to a planet called Earth orbited by a yellow sun. The computer determines that it will take three years for the ship to get there. Determined to find any and all survivors, Kara plots a course, then steps into the stasis chamber for suspended animation.
(In this scene, should we hear her speaking English or Kryptonese?)

Titles.

The ship arrives in our solar system. Kara comes out of stasis long enough to get some yellow sun, then attempts to navigate the ship in. Unfortunately, she's used up nearly all her power on the voyage, so landing quietly is out. So she crash lands in a (lake, forest, desert, snow, take your pick). She crawls out of the wreckage unharmed, but just about everything on her ship is destroyed (this could change; something she brought along could be key to the plot.) What follows kind of comes out of her origin from Superman/Batman, with her wandering around disoriented, slowly discovering her new powers.

Meanwhile, Clark gets word of some strange occurances involving a mysterious blond teenage girl. He investigates (as Superman), follows the trail, and eventually finds Kara.

That's what I got so far.
Love it? Hate it? Okay it? Change anything?

 

[DrayvensCrow]

Verrrrrry Interesting......got any more?

 

[Jordacar]

Verrrrrry Interesting......got any more?

All that poured from my brain like, 3 hours ago (while I was watching 'Superman Returns,' no less.)

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Here's the real problem to me. Everything sounds like a Superman 1.5 or 2.5. I want a Supergirl movie. I don't want to see Superman. If he's there,he'll have to help her i the final fight and learning about her powers. Or Superman will have to be beaten up for her to save him.

I want a Supergirl independent of Superman's story.

 

[Jordacar]

Here's the real problem to me. Everything sounds like a Superman 1.5 or 2.5. I want a Supergirl movie. I don't want to see Superman. If he's there,he'll have to help her i the final fight and learning about her powers. Or Superman will have to be beaten up for her to save him.

I want a Supergirl independent of Superman's story.

Any ideas on how to pull that off?

I can easily picture a SG solo movie, but I can't possibly imagine her origin without cousin Kal-El.