Superhero Cinematic Civil War - Part 56

[Web-Head]

Aquaman was my 2nd favorite live action CBM last year. Sure, some of the dialogue was a little weird and I went in with low expectations coming off JL, but it was extremely fun

 

[Zarex]

Elba had a lot in common with Jennifer Lawrence in X-Men. They were cast in a supporting role in a franchise and then ended up becoming too big for the role, so they weren't happy. We should be glad Marvel didn't force Heimdall as a main character to compensate like what Fox did with Mystique.

Mr. Elba was definitely underutilized. And probably underpaid. But I thought Idris' Warrior/Monk version of Heimdall in Ragnarok was by far his best performance of the series. And he has the distinction of being The Mad Titan's first 'name' kill.

Now let's put some fangs in his beautiful mouth for the Blade reboot!

 

[EnDz0n3]

Elba had a lot in common with Jennifer Lawrence in X-Men. They were cast in a supporting role in a franchise and then ended up becoming too big for the role, so they weren't happy. We should be glad Marvel didn't force Heimdall as a main character to compensate like what Fox did with Mystique.

I definitely think this was the case, both actors when they were starting up were just happy to sign on the dotted line. Blew up. Got stuck in a multi-picture deal but still got paid peanuts based on their contract, when in their minds they could go do other movies and get paid a lot more. I'm not as familiar with Elba's case but for JLaw, she's had quotes like "I put my foot down" demanding that they reduce my make-up time (she insists it's because she's had bad reactions to the make-up) and I do know from multiple sources on the prequel films that Singer et al did have to write around Ms Lawrence's request. Another quote is that she'd "rather be in Guardians."

Can't wait til I don't have to contend with her bored acting.

 

[flickchick85]

Sure, some of the dialogue was a little weird and I went in with low expectations coming off JL, but it was extremely fun

That's certainly the nice way of putting it.

 

[Boy Scout]

“I am the protector of the deep.”

 

[Iceman]

For me, the humor kept taking me out of potentially cool moments. Right from the beginning we get an awesome set up: Thor is tied up in Surtur’s lair with him being taunted and tortured by this badass lolking demon creature, within the first three minutes Waititi is winning me over....and then I get taken out of the moment by that gag of him interrupting Surtur’s monologue as he twirls around the chain. And then theres Surtur pouting “its not an eyebrow its a crown!”

I dunno, I know a lot of you are reading this thinking “jeez dude lighten up” but I think I prefer a little bit more balance with the humor. I love how Wan tackled the humor in Aquaman for example. I dont think anyone would accuse that movie being anything close to dark or gritty. It was light, colorful, fun and humorous and yet it took its story very seriously. Patrick Wilson’s Ocean Master never broke character the way Waititi had his characters do consistenty in Ragnarok.

Doing that joke twice at the beginning of Ragnarok during a very cool looking scene was a bit much for me and I was worried it might mean we were going to get drowned in terrible jokes for the rest of the film. But for the most part I liked the jokes (much better than the comedy in the previous Thor films), just wish there had been less of it overall. I would have culled the weakest 30% of jokes, even if they were good by themselves, and put them in the extras. That would give the serious parts even more heft. I loved the film but it could have been considerably better for me with that. I definitely would have cut Korg's joke about the foundations when Asgard was destroyed. Yes as a standalone joke it's funny, but it comes at too much of a cost to the drama and sadness of the moment.

 

[Iceman]

I will never claim AM is as weighty as some other folms but as someone that does love Aquaman that moment gave me chills the three times I saw it in the theater. I was very worried the movie would just be a freight train of quips but instead they balanced it out.

And they gave me all I could have wanted in that third act.

I would never have predicted such a grand third act for Aquaman. Many CBMs struggle with their third act whereas this was amazing and a great resolution to everything that came before.

 

[flickchick85]

I love Ragnarok with my whole heart, but honestly, that opening scene made me think I was gonna hate it. That's the one part of the movie where the jokes felt forced and just too much, imo (I did chuckle at "big eyebrow," but I didn't need Surtur's "it's not an eyebrow, it's a crown!"). Whenever I rewatch, I always skip straight to the opening fight, lol.

 

[Iceman]

Elba had a lot in common with Jennifer Lawrence in X-Men. They were cast in a supporting role in a franchise and then ended up becoming too big for the role, so they weren't happy. We should be glad Marvel didn't force Heimdall as a main character to compensate like what Fox did with Mystique.

Yeah. I think he can still play a major CBM role in future as his face was covered enough in the Thor films.

 

[kguillou]

I love Ragnarok with my whole heart, but honestly, that opening scene made me think I was gonna hate it. That's the one part of the movie where the jokes felt forced and just too much, imo (I did chuckle at "big eyebrow," but I didn't need Surtur's "it's not an eyebrow, it's a crown!"). Whenever I rewatch, I always skip straight to the opening fight, lol.

Yeah, all i’m saying is I wouldve preferred a straight action adventure film with humorous moments as opposed to full on comedy. People keep saying that its an 80s throwback to Flash Gordon and whatnot but even if we’re comparing it to those type of 80’s adventure films they still took their stories seriously even if overall it was super silly and stupid....like Flash Gordon. I think Flash Gordon THOUGHT it was making a genuine action fantasy movie, and didnt intend for it to be the so bad its hilarious B movie that we now regard it to be.

 

[Web-Head]

I think they were going for Big Trouble in Little China with Ragnarok in a way

 

[Mandon Knight]

What Flash Gordon didn't know it was, itself, a PG rated S&M fetish film.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

I love Ragnarok with my whole heart, but honestly, that opening scene made me think I was gonna hate it. That's the one part of the movie where the jokes felt forced and just too much, imo (I did chuckle at "big eyebrow," but I didn't need Surtur's "it's not an eyebrow, it's a crown!"). Whenever I rewatch, I always skip straight to the opening fight, lol.

Surtur just says "it's a crown!" and that's a touch I like since it puts a context to Surtur wanting to boast about what he's destined to do because he is prideful and wants to be intimidating. When the son of Odin doesn't seem to take him seriously he gets surly and I think it's a funny wink to why villains tend to monologue. To each their own though.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I think they were going for Big Trouble in Little China with Ragnarok in a way

I could kinda see that, yeah.

Oh, man. Now I want to see Kurt Russell play Thunderstrike. Or voice Beta Ray Bill.

 

[Web-Head]

I could kinda see that, yeah.

Oh, man. Now I want to see Kurt Russell play Thunderstrike. Or voice Beta Ray Bill.

Well, he was Ego

 

[Deck Rickard]

Well, he was Ego

Oh, right. Duh. LOL.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

 

[I Am The Knight]

Wow, the cinematic debut of Ratcatcher. A gender-swapped version, though.

 

[Ninjablade]

Those are some interesting choices.

 

[Zarex]

Not bringing aboard Dogwelder seems like a missed opportunity.

 

[metaphysician]

Sounds like a complete and utter rejection of the tone and style of the first one. Which sounds like a good idea to me. I am officially interested.

 

[Timebomb]

I just wish this version of Harley wasn't going to be in it. I would rather it leave everything from the first film behind.

 

[FunkMiller]

If Gunn has any guts, he’ll give Crazy Quilt the leading role we all know he should have had years ago.

 

[FunkMiller]

Looks like Shazam might be the second winner in a row for DC, judging from Twitter reactions. Things are certainly getting better, now Snyder is in the rear view...

 

[Gothamsknight]

DCs future is looking great since aquaman and now shazams reviews seem to be heading in that direction even more. Wonder woman, aquaman, and now shazam. Bye Snyder!