Superman (2025) Box Office Thread

[Ita-KalEl]

As expected FF has been more frontloaded than Superman. I would not be surprised if in 3 weeks Superman were close if not ahead

 

[-Arya-]

I think it’s final tally will be a bit over $600M (610-620)

Domestic: 350-370
International: 250 ish

 

[Deck Rickard]

B.O. update from Luiz:

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Hood

Die, Venom. Die.

 

[Superark]

I don't want it to be a competition between Superman and fantastic four, but I'm also glad that fantastic four opened a little less than what Superman did opening weekend.

The only reason for that is because it will give the Snyder cult and Gunn haters one less thing to latch on to.

 

[jokesonm3]

Fantastic 4 came in at 118 million domestically. Wow….. It looked like a lock for 130+ after the reviews and opening night. I guess there is some truth about Marvel’s openings being strong and then cooling off.

Superman is just steady eddy. It should past MOS tomorrow domestically. As of right now I get the impression that Superhero movies will make between $400 million low end and $800 million high end at the box office now.

Let both films be a valuable lesson of never trusting the hyperbole of forum experts and believe in the trades, deadline was 2 for 2 I believe.

 

[Another_Fool]

I believe F4 will open much higher than that, but having seen the film, I don’t believe it will have Superman’s legs. The entertainment/rewatchability factor isn’t nearly as high imo. I can’t see people wanting to go back over and over again for that one. The humor and action aren’t there.

I'm curious too because F4's second act kind of slows to a crawl and it goes without any significant action until the final 30 mins. I liked the second act stuff but Superman is better paced and feels like it's always moving, which makes it easier to digest when rewatching.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm curious too because F4's second act kind of slows to a crawl and it goes without any significant action until the final 30 mins. I liked the second act stuff but Superman is better paced and feels like it's always moving, which makes it easier to digest when rewatching.

I didn't mind FF slowing down and having long periods without significant action. Fantastic Four, you know what they are? Superhero Star Trek. That's the best analogy I have. They're a family, they explore science and the cosmos, and the Sci-Fi ideas at play and figuring it out is a large part of a FF adventure. Which might be why some people don't like them as much as most other Superhero stories that are action heavy. Like the old Trek vs Wars debate. Traditionally, I was always more a Star Wars guy, but I like my FF in this particular case lol. Superman def has more action. But I think both movies were the right type of movies for their respective franchises

 

[Moncton]

The dark cloud is the overseas situation for CBM's. If studios are spending $200-250 million on films and can't at all rely on international regardless of a film's quality, that is a big issue.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The dark cloud is the overseas situation for CBM's. If studios are spending $200-250 million on films and can't at all rely on international regardless of a film's quality, that is a big issue.

All you can do is manage your budgets and make good movies and try to build that house of cards back up.

 

[Superark]

All you can do is manage your budgets and make good movies and try to build that house of cards back up.

This. Studios need to adapt to the market and that starts with budget. Perhaps in time it the Asian market will come back, but for now they do not need to bank on them contributing to the general super hero landscape.

 

[donuts]

The dark cloud is the overseas situation for CBM's. If studios are spending $200-250 million on films and can't at all rely on international regardless of a film's quality, that is a big issue.

It's not that dark.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It's not that dark.

I dont think it is that dark for movies that only need like 500mil or maybe a little more to break even. But for something like Avengers Doomsday that needs to hit 2 billion cause they're spending so much on it? The death of Chinese BO and of Asian Markets as a whole might be a serious problem. But we won't know that until Doomsday comes out and we see if that audience is still at least on for the events

 

[donuts]

I don't think that Avengers Doomsday necessarily needs to hit 2 bill.

I'm not to attached to the concept and period of the billion dollar blockbusters of the 2010s.

I want the theatrical business to be healthy. I don't think that constantly chasing the billion dollar blockbuster was particularly healthy for the biz past the initial and superficial joy of the investors.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't think that Avengers Doomsday necessarily needs to hit 2 bill.

We don't have Doomsday's budget, but reports have been they could be spending close to a billion each movie. How true that is or not, who knows. But even if the budget is 600 mil or whatever, then times that by 3, and you're at 1.8 billion for a break even. Plus you have the optics POV that Endgame made 2.7 and IW made nearly 2.4 billion. So if it comes under 2 billion, that will seem like a disappointment. RDJ alone is costing them like 100 of that budget.

 

[Frodo]

Purely As a fan of both , I feel like both films deserved have made much more , given how much audiences liked both films, but the reality is , they aren't .

They're both damaged goods box office wise , so they both had the mission of mending fences with the audience and regardless of which film had the bigger opening weekend, they've both succeeded in that.

The Audience scores and critics ratings make that clear, if even there are fans who don't want to acknowledge that.

So, I'm celebrating that both of these hard knock film franchises are ,at the very least, pleasing GA and critics and will have more of the audiences confidence and good will , by the next time they appear on film.

 

[donuts]

We don't have Doomsday's budget, but reports have been they could be spending close to a billion each movie. How true that is or not, who knows. But even if the budget is 600 mil or whatever, then times that by 3, and you're at 1.8 billion for a break even. Plus you have the optics POV that Endgame made 2.7 and IW made nearly 2.4 billion. So if it comes under 2 billion, that will seem like a disappointment. RDJ alone is costing them like 100 of that budget.

The market has changed somewhat, especially as far as China goes.

That should be taken into account, without much drama.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The market has changed somewhat, especially as far as China goes.

That should be taken into account, without much drama.

Indeed, which is why I think the money being pumped into Doomsday is a bit.. irresponsible. When you spend that much, and you don't hit that high benchmark, then that is people get fired type money being lost.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

The dark cloud is the overseas situation for CBM's. If studios are spending $200-250 million on films and can't at all rely on international regardless of a film's quality, that is a big issue.

It’s not just CBMs. Markets have changed, especially in Asia. Moviegoing has fallen off dramatically in Korea and even homegrown films in China are struggling. Heck, look at Rebirth. It’s over 400m OS but won’t come close to Dominion’s 600m, much less previous outings. Feels like 250-300m is going to be the mark of success going forward for most films. And yeah, budgets will have to adjust.

 

[donuts]

Indeed, which is why I think the money being pumped into Doomsday is a bit.. irresponsible. When you spend that much, and you don't hit that high benchmark, then that is people get fired type money being lost.

The MCU has made so much money over such a long time that they can afford to spend a little extra. And I'm sure that Doomsday is gonna be a smash hit.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The MCU has made so much money over such a long time that they can afford to spend a little extra. And I'm sure that Doomsday is gonna be a smash hit.

I am very worried about how that movie is going to turn out quality wise, lol!!!! I am excited for the FF coming back and the Thunderbolts and Thor and such, but it feels like we hear some worrying red flag constantly. Makes me wonder about the quality we are going to get. But only time is going to tell there

 

[kguillou]

I am very worried about how that movie is going to turn out quality wise, lol!!!! I am excited for the FF coming back and the Thunderbolts and Thor and such, but it feels like we hear some worrying red flag constantly. Makes me wonder about the quality we are going to get. But only time is going to tell there

And you know I was thinking about this yesterday, the very notion of Doomsday and Secret Wars, movies that will essentially be a culmination of 25+ years of marvel cinema coming to a head. Characters from all these decades of Marvel films, coming together to battle the biggest, baddest Marvel villain of all time...i mean that is a freaking epic concept. You dont get bigger than that. But it can fall apart so easily. This could be an absolute mess or it could be the biggest movie event ever.

 

[Primal Slayer]

We don't have Doomsday's budget, but reports have been they could be spending close to a billion each movie. How true that is or not, who knows. But even if the budget is 600 mil or whatever, then times that by 3, and you're at 1.8 billion for a break even. Plus you have the optics POV that Endgame made 2.7 and IW made nearly 2.4 billion. So if it comes under 2 billion, that will seem like a disappointment. RDJ alone is costing them like 100 of that budget.

There is zero way the are spending a billion on Doomsday. Endgame cost $356mill with stars having much bigger paychecks due to the OGs. Doomsday should be less than Endgame.

 

[DCDAVE]

I think the box office for Superman and Fantastic 4 are the high end of the Superhero movie market nowadays. Deadpool/Wolverine and Spider-Man No Way Home had no competition and those movies have 20 years of Marvel history/fans on there side. The Batman, Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness and Wakanda Forever started to show cracks in the overseas box office especially with Asian markets. Nobody wants to hear it but the next Spider-Man movie is not guaranteed to make a billion. From a DC perspective I don’t think The Batman 2 is a billion dollars guarantee either.

 

[Spider-Fan]

There is zero way the are spending a billion on Doomsday. Endgame cost $356mill with stars having much bigger paychecks due to the OGs. Doomsday should be less than Endgame.

Not if RDJ is getting 100 million by himself

 

[GreenKToo]

Kinda shocked F4 didn't make more. Especially domestically.