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Superman (2025) Box Office Thread

How much will it gross at the box office?

  • >$1 Billion

    Votes: 7 9.0%
  • $1 Billion

    Votes: 7 9.0%
  • $900 Million

    Votes: 6 7.7%
  • $800 Million

    Votes: 14 17.9%
  • $700 Million

    Votes: 25 32.1%
  • $600 Million

    Votes: 13 16.7%
  • $500 Million

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • <$500 Million

    Votes: 5 6.4%

  • Total voters
    78
There is zero way the are spending a billion on Doomsday. Endgame cost $356mill with stars having much bigger paychecks due to the OGs. Doomsday should be less than Endgame.
I was in the room when the Russos freely admitted they spent $1 billion on Infinity War/Endgame, so the cost of each movie there was about $500mil. I don’t see Doomsday costing much less than $400mil at the very least, especially with the known paychecks involved already.
 
Kinda shocked F4 didn't make more. Especially domestically.
F4 actually overachieved. It was not expected to make more then Superman at the domestic or world box office. It still might beat Superman’s opening weekend world wide when the actuals come out tomorrow. A couple of twitter analysts went overboard with the 130+ million predictions just like when Superman was looking at $150 million opening domestically. All and all a good weekend for comic movies. DC and Marvel both won….. Let’s hope there will be a friendly rivalry going forward. X-Men vs the Bat family will be fun in 2028.
 
I was in the room when the Russos freely admitted they spent $1 billion on Infinity War/Endgame, so the cost of each movie there was about $500mil. I don’t see Doomsday costing much less than $400mil at the very least, especially with the known paychecks involved already.
Then someone needs to get with google/BOM/IMBD to get an update.
 
I was in the room when the Russos freely admitted they spent $1 billion on Infinity War/Endgame, so the cost of each movie there was about $500mil. I don’t see Doomsday costing much less than $400mil at the very least, especially with the known paychecks involved already.

[quickly revises my conservative estimates on how much Doomsday/Secret Wars will cost}
 
There is zero way the are spending a billion on Doomsday. Endgame cost $356mill with stars having much bigger paychecks due to the OGs. Doomsday should be less than Endgame.

They are spending $90 million, cash up front, for 3 people, per movie. Revise your budget estimates.
 
The film I am worried about is Supergirl, if Superman being well received and much more popular can only go a bit above $600 million, I m not sure what Supergirl can achieve.
 
The dark cloud is the overseas situation for CBM's. If studios are spending $200-250 million on films and can't at all rely on international regardless of a film's quality, that is a big issue.
Is there a scenario where internationally, people realize what they missed out on come streaming time and come out for the next one?
 
The film I am worried about is Supergirl, if Superman being well received and much more popular can only go a bit above $600 million, I m not sure what Supergirl can achieve.
That movie should have a smaller budget (both production and marketing) than Superman and I have to think $400m WW would be considered a win there.

But yes I too am worried about it. I don’t like its release date at all. It’s definitely gonna be the underdog where it’s at.
 
The trailers and marketing are really going to have to go hard to sell Supergirl to the general public.
 
I am very worried about how that movie is going to turn out quality wise, lol!!!! I am excited for the FF coming back and the Thunderbolts and Thor and such, but it feels like we hear some worrying red flag constantly. Makes me wonder about the quality we are going to get. But only time is going to tell there
I don't think anyone at this point knows how Doomsday will pan out.

Let's just wait and see. Hopefully the Russos do better than with their last few streaming flicks.

Italy | SUN July 28th:

3. Superman | €116,732 | Tot. €4,543,158
 
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That movie should have a smaller budget (both production and marketing) than Superman and I have to think $400m WW would be considered a win there.

But yes I too am worried about it. I don’t like its release date at all. It’s definitely gonna be the underdog where it’s at.
Jason Momoa to the rescue, he alone will bring fans to the movie domestically and internationally. David will probably have a cameo as well. He is well received by most of the general audience as Superman. Don’t forget about the true star of Superman, Krypto, either. I don’t think Supergirl is locked into that release date. Again Memorial Day weekend is there for the taking after Marvel moved Doomsday.
 

The most important point is that China has gone, maybe forever. MOS did +60m in China, Avengers Endgame +629m.
1 Billion at b.o. is quite impossible to achieve without chinese market, expecially with Europe in such bad conditions.

All the more reason for studios to get these insane budgets under control.
 
Memorial weekend would be a good date for Supergirl.

However I think Disney would instantly counter the release date.
 
Memorial weekend would be a good date for Supergirl.

However I think Disney would instantly counter the release date.
The Michael Jackson biopic part 1 might come out in May though. I think
Studios are waiting to see what will happen with that movie. It’s going to be a Black Panther level juggernaut in the African American community and Michael was an international superstar as well.

Supergirl can stay where it is at. Toy Story 5 is not the end all be all at that position. If it was Frozen 3 I would be concerned.
 
I dunno, that might not turn out how you expect. Pretty sure Mamoa has given interviews about how how happy he is to no longer have to be in Khal Drogo/Aquaman shape.

We might get a beer belly Lobo. :funny:

We will test the dad bod theory in real time. Do women truly find it attractive or not. 😂
 
I would not like to seem too pessimistic but by now Gunn's universe has the same chances to fail of Snyder's one.
I really don't see why the same public should be interested in different movies on different characters directed by different directors.
 
I would not like to seem too pessimistic but by now Gunn's universe has the same chances to fail of Snyder's one.
I really don't see why the same public should be interested in different movies on different characters directed by different directors.

No recent data swaying you? Audiences spending $500M in 3 weeks on a character that many weren’t sure would ever get a solo movie again and had been relegated to faceless or two-word cameos? Especially at a time when superhero movie fatigue has set in at least for some of the major players and some foreign markets have moved on from them?

Obviously we are past the heyday of the pre-Endgame superhero boom and certain other factors have ****ed the viability of superhero shared universes, so it’s unclear how successful a new DCU can be going forward. But I have always believed the best way to start a cinematic universe is a good foundation. That’s what Iron Man (and later Cap and Thor) gave did for the MCU, laying the groundwork for what they wanted to do. If those movies didn’t work, The Avengers wouldn’t have worked.

And that’s what we’ve started with Superman here. The movie is a critical and financial hit, and it’s resonating with fans. It even seems to have hit the cultural zeitgeist; all the anti-woke idiots criticizing it seem to have galvanized a lot of people on the progressive side to get behind the film because of its pro-immigration, pro-Palestine and Pro-Ukraine themes (and anti-Musk/anti-Trump themes). Granted, these are all pretty subtle in the film (it’s not like Gunn was trying to go full social commentary here with a Superman film) but I give him credit for finding ways to weave in serious issues while also delivering a zany, action packed popcorn flick.

Snyder’s universe failed because MoS was a shaky (at best) foundation. Superman was supposed to be the one who emerges first and brings all the heroes out. But instead, the movie only mildly explores him, he spends most of it just punching people through buildings, and he gets killed in his second outing. All so Snyder could move on to do his half-baked attempt at Frank Miller’s Batman.

Anyway, I don’t know how this universe will shake out, but I think the response to Superman is enough to give people plenty of optimism. Kara also seems to have gotten a good response in her appearance in the film. If Supergirl is a hit, and I think it really can be, then we’ll be off to the races. Milly Alcock is popular, the comic that it’s based on is (as I understand it) a great story (it’s on my to-read list) and appearances by Momoa as Lobo and David as Superman (and Krypto) will probably boost its box office potential.
 
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Let's see how things look if they can get a few movies out with consistent quality. If we don't start to see some return on investment by way of increasing box office performance, then maybe CBM fatigue is very much a real thing.

Way too early to be worrying about the longevity of the DCU.
 
They should have probably had Batman movie after Superman. I feel like having the DCU Batman years away hurts the universe.
 
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