Superman (2025) Box Office Thread

[Tra-El]

Superman with the legs of steel... Hopefully it can keep up this momentum for the following weeks.

It's going to hold quite well for at least its second weekend for absolute sure and will have a soft second weekend drop. Monday and Tuesdays numbers show strong legs for sure now. Once F4 releases, and the summer stabilizes, Superman's legs should be on the upward trend for any CBM.

 

[donuts]

It opened under Morbius of all movies in Germany. That's neither decent nor underwhelming. Superman may end up doing decently at the end of its run, but those early, super-high projections were way off. Domestic may do decently for this movie until Fantastic Four comes, but international? Less so.

Exactly. In Germany. One country.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Per Jat, it’s also packed on another $20m OS across Monday and Tuesday, so things are now looking less dire on that front.

 

[The_Root]

This site is showing that Superman grossed $17m on Tuesday. Nice jump from Monday and looking like word of mouth could lead to a bigger second weekend that anticipated. Maybe a $75 million weekend?

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[The_Root]

$17 mil for Superman on its first Tuesday! Holy hold, BATMAN. Very strong Monday and Tuesday hold for Superman, let's go. Should pass $300 mil in the states no doubt. $320-330 domestic is on the table

Sorry, didn't see you covered this first.

 

[Business Time]

Months ago, I said the ideal situation is for this film to do well, but not too well.

700M range would guarantee a solo Superman sequel. I didn't want this to do higher, or Gunn would just go full-Gunn with this universe, without some restraint.


Based on WB's history, this is where I think the tiers for success are;

500M Range WW - The DCU continues. Budgets are kept tighter by Zazzy. Less risk. More reliance on Batman and Batman-adjacent characters to keep the DCU afloat. No Superman sequel.


600M Range WW - Man of Steel territory (and MOS had an 11% ROI theatrically, which is not good). The DCU continues as planned, but a Superman solo sequel is not a priority. It might get pushed off till after some teamup films, or remain in development hell. They may announce it, like they did for the Superman Returns sequel, but there probably won't be much immediate movement on it. Gunn will write and direct other projects outside of Superman.


700M Range WW - WB/Zazzy will push for a solo Superman sequel in the near future. Investors happy, executives happy.

Grace at BeyondTheTrailer is saying the same. We'll see how things play out.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

Legs are showing quite everywhere. It means 2 things:
1) We understimated the disaster that they (WB and Disney) made.
2) Superman has saved a genre.

 

[Tra-El]

Sorry, didn't see you covered this first.

No apologies necessary, real time and follow-ups are what these forums are for to keep the conversation going

 

[Tra-El]

This site is showing that Superman grossed $17m on Tuesday. Nice jump from Monday and looking like word of mouth could lead to a bigger second weekend that anticipated. Maybe a $75 million weekend?

Superman (2025) - Financial Information

Financial analysis of Superman (2025) including budget, domestic and international box office gross, DVD and Blu-ray sales reports, total earnings and profitability.

www.the-numbers.com

I think it will land somewhere between a $50-56% drop, so $60 mil at the moment looks to be the scenario we should hope for. But I can see Superman when it's said and done be below a 50% drop and more in the 48% category. Either way, it's going to be an impressive hold and boy does it need it with F4 looming. We will \S/ee.

 

[Tra-El]

Months ago, I said the ideal situation is for this film to do well, but not too well.

700M range would guarantee a solo Superman sequel. I didn't want this to do higher, or Gunn would just go full-Gunn with this universe, without some restraint.


Based on WB's history, this is where I think the tiers for success are;

500M Range WW - The DCU continues. Budgets are kept tighter by Zazzy. Less risk. More reliance on Batman and Batman-adjacent characters to keep the DCU afloat. No Superman sequel.


600M Range WW - Man of Steel territory (and MOS had an 11% ROI theatrically, which is not good). The DCU continues as planned, but a Superman solo sequel is not a priority. It might get pushed off till after some teamup films, or remain in development hell. They may announce it, like they did for the Superman Returns sequel, but there probably won't be much immediate movement on it. Gunn will write and direct other projects outside of Superman.


700M Range WW - WB/Zazzy will push for a solo Superman sequel in the near future. Investors happy, executives happy.

Grace at BeyondTheTrailer is saying the same. We'll see how things play out.

I honestly think everything is where it should be with the start of the DCU, and Gunn is further along with Superman's sequel than what we know right now. But we know this because he has told us. We already know that Superman is getting a sequel, but it won't be a straight Superman movie. Gunn has already said as much even before its release, and he just said yesterday things are heading towards what will come out of Peacemaker Season 2.

It has also been reported that Wonder Woman has been fast tracked at DC Studios, so the buildup to the larger DCU is under way (which means Superman did its job).

 

[The_Root]

Months ago, I said the ideal situation is for this film to do well, but not too well.

700M range would guarantee a solo Superman sequel. I didn't want this to do higher, or Gunn would just go full-Gunn with this universe, without some restraint.


Based on WB's history, this is where I think the tiers for success are;

500M Range WW - The DCU continues. Budgets are kept tighter by Zazzy. Less risk. More reliance on Batman and Batman-adjacent characters to keep the DCU afloat. No Superman sequel.


600M Range WW - Man of Steel territory (and MOS had an 11% ROI theatrically, which is not good). The DCU continues as planned, but a Superman solo sequel is not a priority. It might get pushed off till after some teamup films, or remain in development hell. They may announce it, like they did for the Superman Returns sequel, but there probably won't be much immediate movement on it. Gunn will write and direct other projects outside of Superman.


700M Range WW - WB/Zazzy will push for a solo Superman sequel in the near future. Investors happy, executives happy.

Grace at BeyondTheTrailer is saying the same. We'll see how things play out.

Well, 700m WW seems pretty unlikely given the international take.

 

[GreenKToo]

Going by its hold so far, It appears possible that it could make 65/70 mill it's 2nd weekend.
Need to see what it does today when the numbers are released tomorrow.
If it's still way up, then yes, 65-70 mill is not only possible, but likely.

 

[GreenKToo]

Well, 700m WW seems pretty unlikely given the international take.

As of now. I think we're prolly looking at 630ish mill.
But then, if it has really good legs as it appears to have, then it could be more.

 

[Business Time]

I honestly think everything is where it should be with the start of the DCU, and Gunn is further along with Superman's sequel than what we know right now. But we know this because he has told us. We already know that Superman is getting a sequel, but it won't be a straight Superman movie. Gunn has already said as much even before its release, and he just said yesterday things are heading towards what will come out of Peacemaker Season 2.

It has also been reported that Wonder Woman has been fast tracked at DC Studios, so the buildup to the larger DCU is under way (which means Superman did its job).

You know this, it will really all come down to WB, executives, investors, shareholders etc whether the sequel is greenlit. Regardless of whether Gunn is scripting ideas or not.

We've seen hundreds of DC scripts and pitches, throughout the years, tossed and thrown away when WB decides it wouldn't be good business to go forward with them.

No doubt the Superman character will appear again (in Supergirl and Peacemaker S2 next year likely). Whether we get a solo Superman sequel (for the first time since Reeve), that's on the box office.

This was not a cheap venture. Even though WB copped to a budget of 225M (plus a fortune in advertising), there were papers from Ohio stating the budget was quite higher, even after breaks.

 

[Tra-El]

As of now. I think we're prolly looking at 630ish mill.
But then, if it has really good legs as it appears to have, then it could be more.

I'm not quite comfortable of going that high with the BO...yet. $630 mil WW will be a huge win and more than a solid start for the DCU (Wonder Woman is already being fast tracked, so the DCU is off and running). At the moment, got to see how these next few weeks will go, but my personal watch is looking for Superman to get to $600 mil WW. Anything after that would be great givin' the International start.

 

[GreenKToo]

I honestly think everything is where it should be with the start of the DCU, and Gunn is further along with Superman's sequel than what we know right now. But we know this because he has told us. We already know that Superman is getting a sequel, but it won't be a straight Superman movie. Gunn has already said as much even before its release, and he just said yesterday things are heading towards what will come out of Peacemaker Season 2.

It has also been reported that Wonder Woman has been fast tracked at DC Studios, so the buildup to the larger DCU is under way (which means Superman did its job).

If Supergirl is a big hit, and if Lobo is a fan favorite like I think he will be, then the superman follow-up film ( giving my best guess here ) will most likely have supergirl AND Lobo. That will equal big $$$.

And Giving the language Gunn used, it doesn't appear that the villain he has in mind will be either brainiac or mongul.

That could change tho since just about everyone is begging for one or the other.

 

[Business Time]

As of now. I think we're prolly looking at 630ish mill.
But then, if it has really good legs as it appears to have, then it could be more.

I would have loved the 700M range.

One amusing thing I agree with Grace on BeyondtheTrailer about... if Superman (2025) comes under Man of Steel (2013) in final Box Office, the online DC fandom and online space will be... not good.

It's going to get very divisive and argumentative.

 

[Tra-El]

I would have loved the 700M range.

One amusing thing I agree with Grace on BeyondtheTrailer about... if Superman (2025) comes under Man of Steel (2013) in final Box Office, the online DC fandom and online space will be... not good.

It's going to get very divisive and argumentative.

Things are already divisive and argumentive online, and the goalposts will always be moved one way or another no matter where Superman lands. Online fan wars isn't going away, and it's not something that should be taken seriously. Superman doesn't have to do MoS numbers to be a success. Different times; different circumstances surrounding the genre. Wonder Woman has been fast -tracked, so the larger window for the DCU is officially kicked off no matter the semantics of what constitutes as sequels for respective characters.

 

[Business Time]

If Supergirl is a big hit, and if Lobo is a fan favorite like I think he will be, then the superman follow-up film ( giving my best guess here ) will most likely have supergirl AND Lobo. That will equal big $$$.

How big is Lobo's role in the film? Seemed like Momoa was only filming for a short time.

The film will center on Kara and Ruthye. Two young girls going on a roadtrip and trying to overcome their trauma.

Is that the premise of a big 4th quadrant hit that will surpass Superman's box office? I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[GreenKToo]

I would have loved the 700M range.

One amusing thing I agree with Grace on BeyondtheTrailer about... if Superman (2025) comes under Man of Steel (2013) in final Box Office, the online DC fandom and online space will be... not good.

It's going to get very divisive and argumentative.

When the critic and audience reviews hit I all but guaranteed myself that 750 to 800 mill was a lock.
I've tempered my expectations now.

580 I think is the floor, with perhaps 630 maaaybe 640 being the ceiling.

I seriously doubt it get to 700 mill, but it's not impossible if it keeps it's legs Domestically.
That said, F4 Is soon out, and it will will eat into Superman's b.o.

I still think it hits 340 to 360 dom.
But OS? No idea. Maybe 220 to 240ish? Maybe.

 

[Business Time]

Things are already divisive and argumentive online, and the goalposts will always be moved one way or another no matter where Superman lands. Online fan wars isn't going away, and it's not something that should be taken seriously. Superman doesn't have to do MoS numbers to be a success. Different times; different circumstances surrounding the genre. Wonder Woman has been fast -tracked, so the larger window for the DCU is officially kicked off no matter the semantics of what constitutes as sequels for respective characters.

It will get a lot worse if Superman does worse business than MOS.

And sure, the DCU is kicked off. That was inevitable. The investment was already made. However, I think many Superman fans would want a Superman sequel, or trilogy or franchise.

This would be the third time in the 'modern era' that Superman would be denied a solo sequel due to underwhelming box office.

There's still time left, so good WOM and legs might make some difference with that final total.

 

[Tra-El]

It will get a lot worse if Superman does worse business than MOS.

And sure, the DCU is kicked off. That was inevitable. The investment was already made. However, I think many Superman fans would want a Superman sequel, or trilogy or franchise.

This would be the third time in the 'modern era' that Superman would be denied a solo sequel due to underwhelming box office.

There's still time left, so good WOM and legs might make some difference with that final total.

The fan discourse can't get any worse at this point. And if it does, will anyone even notice?

A true standalone Superman sequel can now come in at any time within the timeline. It doesn't have to be coming right away given that Superman wasn't an origin story and he was already playing with established members of the soon-to-be Justice League where Metahumans already exist. Gunn already has the seeds to the DCU already planted in Superman. Their main focus looks to be the wider DCU as a universe rather than sequel semantics.

 

[GreenKToo]

How big is Lobo's role in the film? Seemed like Momoa was only filming for a short time.

The film will center on Kara and Ruthye. Two young girls going on a roadtrip and trying to overcome their trauma.

Is that the premise of a big 4th quadrant hit that will surpass Superman's box office? I wouldn't bet on it.

No it does not.
I have no idea obviously, but I would think/hope that Lobo has a large role in this.
Lobo needs to be 100% faithful to the comics and the animated shows we've seen him in.

He needs to be on a bounty hunting trip after kara. Hired by mongul or brainiac.

If they DO NOT take full advantage of Jason as Lobo in supergirl by giving him a large role, then they are crazy.

It also needs to take advantage of kara's drinking ( like we saw in superman ) and show a scene of her and lobo having a drink off competition on some far away planet.

he cheats, captures her, and delivers her to whomever hired him.

The superman film then could lead in to him attempting to free her.

 

[Business Time]

The fan discourse can't get any worse at this point. And if it does, will anyone even notice?

A true standalone Superman sequel can now come in at any time within the timeline. It doesn't have to be coming right away given that Superman wasn't an origin story and he was already playing with established members of the soon-to-be Justice League where Metahumans already exist. Gunn already has the seeds to the DCU already planted in Superman. Their main focus looks to be the wider DCU as a universe rather than sequel semantics.

It will come if the box office justifies it. We will see.

Ultimately a circular argument until we get the final numbers. Despite MOS doing poor business theatrically relative to its costs, I recall many certain that a MOS sequel was coming and 'Cav-El' was returning. Now they've obviously changed their tone.

 

[Tra-El]

It will come if the box office justifies it. We will see.

Ultimately a circular argument until we get the final numbers. Despite MOS doing poor business theatrically relative to its costs, I recall many certain that a MOS sequel was coming and 'Cav-El' was returning. Now they've obviously changed their tone.

Yeah, the ultimate play after Man of Steel should have definitely been a true Cavill MoS2 standalone sequel to flesh things out. That was one of the DCEU's ultimate blunders. I just think now with Supergirl coming out next summer (with ties already to Superman on screen) the commitment in some capacity has already been set, and Corenswet will be appearing in upcoming projects. A true Superman standalone film would be phenomenal (that's always my first choice) obviously, but it can still come anytime after the release of Supergirl (but we still need to find out what they are cooking up in all these films). I just think the plan will still evolve into Gunn's structure either way.