Superman (2025) Box Office Thread

[Pennywise]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Superman is very much in a Batman begins type of situation. Great audience and critical scores, but didn't set the B.O. on fire ( by that, I mean most of us were thinking it would make AT LEAST 700 mill ) that said, 630 mill is nothing to sneeze at either.

People that skipped it in the theater will regret they didn’t go once they see it at home.
The hunger for more is 100% there.

The sequel, or teamup, is where we will see the 750 mill + film.

It's doing well. This is not Batman Begins. Begins legs are a different beast, and that's before we get into it being an all timer on home video.

Let's see how Supergirl does and go from there.

 

[GreenKToo]

It's doing well. This is not Batman Begins. Begins legs are a different beast, and that's before we get into it being an all timer on home video.

Let's see how Supergirl does and go from there.

Yes it's doing well, but make no mistake we ( and most likely WB and Gunn) were thinking 700 mill. I gotta think they expected more.

So yes, it is very much like BB. Great critic and audience scores, with a hunger for more, even tho it didn't exactly make as much as hoped.

SR had a good critic score as well, but it had no hunger for more.

So no, I'm not bashing this film by any means. I loved it. But I'm realistic also.
More is coming. That's all that matters.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yes it's doing well, but make no mistake we ( and most likely WB and Gunn) were thinking 700 mill. I gotta think they expected more.

So yes, it is very much like BB. Great critic and audience scores, with a hunger for more, even tho it didn't exactly make as much as hoped.

SR had a good critic score as well, but it had no hunger for more.

So no, I'm not bashing this film by any means. I loved it. But I'm realistic also.
More is coming. That's all that matters.

I'm not saying you're bashing it, I think your underestimating what Begins was. Sure, they expected more. But it's been a great year for WB at the box office and Supes has shown decent legs, especially next to F4.

Batman Begins went beyond great critic and audience scores. It was shown in the amount of money it made after it's opening weekend. Not just at the box office but beyond. The build to TDK was like Begins made a billion in 2005 money.

 

[GreenKToo]

I'm not saying you're bashing it, I think your underestimating what Begins was. Sure, they expected more. But it's been a great year for WB at the box office and Supes has shown decent legs, especially next to F4.

Batman Begins went beyond great critic and audience scores. It was shown in the amount of money it made after it's opening weekend. Not just at the box office but beyond. The build to TDK was like Begins made a billion in 2005 money.

Yup. I think, if memory serves, BB made around 360 mill, SR made 390?
One was greatly received, with people regretting skipping it at the theater.

It went on to have a fantastic sequel.
It's still a great film that is very
re-watchable to this day.

The other was quickly forgotten about.

 

[Galactus123]

Just saw this:

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I don't want to sound pessimistic, but I see it getting to about $610 million and no more. The movie really seems to be winding down overseas apart from a few markets and is only on $578 million now. I don't see it making another $40 million WW.

Would love to be wrong of course.

 

[Sithborg]

I mean, WB definitely wanted The Batman numbers. Which was still hobbled a bit by the pandemic. But, that doesn't mean it isn't a success. As I have said, this movie did more than any non-Legendary film has done in a while. The execs are probably happy.

 

[-Arya-]

Superman and The Batman are WB’s highest grossing Superhero movies of the last 6 years. I’m sure they’re happy with this.

 

[Moncton]

WB is probably breathing a sigh of relief that it will get to $600 million considering what's going on with F4.

 

[Superark]

I think WB is very happy with these numbers given everything it had to overcome from the DCEU baggage and the general superhero fatigue.

I would say they are likely downright ecstatic about those domestic numbers, but probably bummed about the international market.

The silver lining is the rest of the superhero films released this year also performed poorly internationally. They can chalk that up to different regional biases. The most important number and reception is always the domestic one and they exceeded there.

The reality is the Marvel oversaturated the market with so many poor films along with dumping crappy Disney+ shows on us. Even without the DCEU issues, Superman had to contend with that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think WB is very happy with these numbers given everything it had to overcome from the DCEU baggage and the general superhero fatigue.

I would say they are likely downright ecstatic about those domestic numbers, but probably bummed about the international market.

The silver lining is the rest of the superhero films released this year also performed poorly internationally. They can chalk that up to different regional biases. The most important number and reception is always the domestic one and they exceeded there.

The reality is the Marvel oversaturated the market with so many poor films along with dumping crappy Disney+ shows on us. Even without the DCEU issues, Superman had to contend with that.

WB's good with the number. But WB is also making a ton of profit off a lot of other movies this year. Sinners, Minecraft, F1, Bloodlines, Weapons. First studio to have 6 movies in a row open to 40m+.

Still have the Conjuring and MK 2 to come.

 

[Sithborg]

I think WB is very happy with these numbers given everything it had to overcome from the DCEU baggage and the general superhero fatigue.

I would say they are likely downright ecstatic about those domestic numbers, but probably bummed about the international market.

The silver lining is the rest of the superhero films released this year also performed poorly internationally. They can chalk that up to different regional biases. The most important number and reception is always the domestic one and they exceeded there.

The reality is the Marvel oversaturated the market with so many poor films along with dumping crappy Disney+ shows on us. Even without the DCEU issues, Superman had to contend with that.

WB has just as much responsibility for the glut of superhero movies, especially when you look at 2023.

 

[Lily Adler]

WB has just as much responsibility for the glut of superhero movies, especially when you look at 2023.

Shazam 2, The Flash, Aquaman 2... Damn.

 

[Moncton]

Shazam 2, The Flash, Aquaman 2... Damn.

Blue Beetle.

 

[Sithborg]

Shazam 2, The Flash, Aquaman 2... Damn.

You forgot Blue Beetle.

 

[Lily Adler]

You forgot Blue Beetle.

The world forgot Blue Beetle. Also Susan Sarandon needs a bigger villain role.

 

[-Arya-]

WB and Disney are equally to blame for superhero fatigue. 2023 was rough.

 

[Superark]

WB has just as much responsibility for the glut of superhero movies, especially when you look at 2023.

WB shares responsibility for sure, but they were not churning out near the amount of product as Disney was with Marvel.

Let's look at it since 2020. Marvel has released 13 movies and 13 shows (not including each season of these). DC has released 9 movies and 2 shows.

 

[Sithborg]

WB shares responsibility for sure, but they were not churning out near the amount of product as Disney was with Marvel.

Let's look at it since 2020. Marvel has released 13 movies and 13 shows (not including each season of these). DC has released 9 movies and 2 shows.

Forgetting a little something called the Arrowverse. Also, I count 10 movies, including 4 in one year. Would have been 11 if Batgirl wasn't ****canned. 4 in one year, combined with Marvels and Sony's releases, how could they not be a big contributing factor. WB absolutely was ramping up to compete with Marvel. Then Black Adam happened.

 

[geosphere]

I don't know. I don't recall DC ever putting out 4 movies a year though. But hey, that's just my thoughts on the matter. Superman does not seem to be affected by this "superhero fatigue" that people are talking about. 620+ million seems pretty good for a franchise starter especially out of the rubble of the disastrous DCEU(which is absolutely relevant). I think people need to put things into perspective. I think its a MCU movie fatigue if I'm going to be honest. That's not to say that Avengers and Spiderman aren't going to make gang buster because I fully suspect that they will - but Superman shows the genre is far from dead when the film connects with audiences.

 

[Superark]

Forgetting a little something called the Arrowverse. Also, I count 10 movies, including 4 in one year. Would have been 11 if Batgirl wasn't ****canned. 4 in one year, combined with Marvels and Sony's releases, how could they not be a big contributing factor. WB absolutely was ramping up to compete with Marvel. Then Black Adam happened.

For one, I don't think you can count the arrowverse towards this discussion for the simple fact, it wasn't connected to the DCEU/Snyderverse.

Those shows were pretty much winding down and over by 2023. They also came with their own niche and devoted audiences. I don't think the general viewing public paid any attention to those whatsoever.

But those shows aside, are you really counting the Batgirl movie towards the superhero fatigue? That movie never came out and the general audience has no clue of its existence.
You cannot count any unrealized plans that Warner Brothers had for the DCEU towards the audiences fatigue of the current trend of superhero films. You only judge and analyze the product they released.


Like geosphere stated, Superman largely went against the fatigue, at least here in North America. The real challenge for DCU and MCU is to try to international audience. They are on the right track even with the disappointment of Thunderbolts. And from the sounds of it they are going to slow down the number of releases each year.

Again, I'm not arguing that WB did not contribute to the audience apathy towards the genre. Everything outside of the Batman, The Penguin, and Peacemaker failed and further hurt the brand and genre. But much like the WWE is to the wrestling world, the MCU is to the superhero genre. They largely steer the direction of the market and they oversaturated the market with bad product.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

I really loved Fantastic Four, but yesterday I read a fanboy trying to compare 57% drop of Superman on its 3rd WE to FF's one. Really...

 

[Mysteryman]

I really loved Fantastic Four, but yesterday I read a fanboy trying to compare 57% drop of Superman on its 3rd WE to FF's one. Really...

I do find the consistent efforts of some to call Superman a bomb a bit ridiculous.

 

[DCDAVE]

I think a Superman family movie that may takes Supes to space would boost the international box office. Adding Momoa(Lobo) and Cooper(Jor-El) will also bump up the star power.