Superman vs. Captain Marvel

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm glad my comment was unexceptable and not unacceptable. That would just crush me.

Redeemed

 

[sethcohen]

your falling into the abyss kiddo.

ummmm no... stop projecting

 

[blud_knight]

toe to toe marvel has him

 

[Redwolf]

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WRONG!

Your link showing the nuke explosion is all wrong. I'm talking about the Maggedon Warhead not a basic Nuke. Cap died in that nuke blast from Kingdom Come. Here is a scan of Superman taking (at point blank range) the Maggedon Warhead. Which is capable of destroying half a galaxy.

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/4117/supermanandmegaddonwarhead6oq.jpg

Your pics of Marvel holding Superman is also dishonest. Why because Superman was possesed by Eclipso. Those scans are showig the moment Superman took control back, and tells Marvel to kill him. Which clearly shows Superman wasn't trying to get free.

That last strength scan appears to be old, even so Superman is holding his own. It doesn't show Marvel beating Superman. They appear to be almost even.

 

[KAD]

Your link showing the nuke explosion is all wrong. I'm talking about the Maggedon Warhead not a basic Nuke. Cap died in that nuke blast from Kingdom Come. Here is a scan of Superman taking (at point blank range) the Maggedon Warhead. Which is capable of destroying half a galaxy.

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You mean "Disarming at point blank range"
In cannon it has almost always been a draw but CM should win considering the magic aspect, lightning etc.

Or perhaps CM changes to BB just as SM lands a blow which kills BB but drives SM mad with anguish over the death of BB

 

[Redwolf]

Earth means Earth. If Superman is indeed mightier then he would have the title.

-I swear you are as bad as Hulk fanboys . You are wrong, even an idiot knows that the title "Earth's mightiest mortal" means the mightiest of the humans. Clark isn't a human so therefore doesn't fall under that category. What about Hal Jordan? He wields the most powerful weapon in the universe. Are you going to tell me Marvel is mightier than the most powerful weapon in the universe?...LOL

If you really read Superman/Batman #5 then you would have read Superman admitting that Captain Marvel, due to the nature of his powers, has the edge over him toe to toe.

-So you conclude from that statement that Superman can't beat him? I'll repeat this for you..

"Superman explains what has happened in a quick monologue: He and Batman allowed Hawkman and Captain Marvel to think they had bested them in order to give Katana and Power Girl the time and opportunity to track down the boy in Tokyo. At the first chance, the two heroes bested their captors and disguised themselves as them in order to approach the White House without incident."

So much for that advantage, Bats and Supes bested Hawkman and Marvel..i.e. they beat them and disguised themselves as Marvel and Hawkman.

It is true. Someone with Marvel's capabilities can capitalize on such an advantage. Only DC's bias allow someone like Luthor or anyone with a decent intelligence to fail in using such knowledge in proper use.

-Again just because Marvel's powers are magic based doesn't mean an automatic win for him against Superman. My logic holds, Superman has battled magical beings and come out on top. Superman has battled Marvel. Logically if Superman can defeat magical beings then he can defeat Marvel in battle.

The truest sense of immortality means you cannot die whether you like it or not no matter what the cause.



That alone contradicts your claim the Supes is immortal. And even though he grows stronger his weaknesses remain.

-There is more than one definition of "immortal". Each are equally valid. Superman cannot die from old age so in that sense he is immortal. So no it does not contradict my claim as there is more than one definition of immortal.

You sure about that? Doomsday can't be killed by Supes anymore. Hell, even the stronger Supes got his arm broken by Doomsday in one of their rematch.

-That was in Superman/Doomsday Hunter Prey. That came out soon after Superman's return from death. Doomsday and Supes have battle since then.

SUPERMAN: THE DOOMSDAY WARS 1-3, and SUPERMAN #175.

In fact here is a scan of Superman moving so fast he goes intangable. Doomsdays blows are going through him.

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[Redwolf]

You mean "Disarming at point blank range"
In cannon it has almost always been a draw but CM should win considering the magic aspect, lightning etc.

Or perhaps CM changes to BB just as SM lands a blow which kills BB but drives SM mad with anguish over the death of BB

Here are better scans...


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[Redwolf]

Originally Posted by Toby_Temple
Superman constanly getting stronger? Right. Make up more imaginary abilities for Supes just to make an arguement. Marvel was the first super strong hero who can fly and move at amazing speed than Supes while Superman was just a high-jumping superhero until DC decided to copy Marvel's powers and add them to Supes.

I'd like to add more this my first rebuttal in a previous quote. It's wasn't because Captain Marvel that DC change Superman's powers.

When making the Max Fleischer cartoons, the Fleischer Brothers found it difficult to keep animating him leaping and requested to DC to change his ability to flying. Writers gradually increased his powers to larger extents during the Silver Age.

Also yes the more sunlight Clark absorbs the more powerful he becomes. When Superman reaches 100 years of age he will be more powerful. When he is 10,000 years old he will be more powerful than at 100. As I said before...

The longer he lives, the exponentially greater his life expectancy than becomes. The longer he is alive, the more solar energy he takes in. This further increases his body's resiliency, and efficiency, which then leads to his life expectancy increasing,w hich leads to his body becoming even more efficient, further staving off the breakdown of his body, which leads to even more solar energy absorption, which leads to an increase again in his life expactancy, and the cycle goes on and on. THe only way for him to grow old and die is to be away from any kind of yellow sunlight forever. In an environment with a yellow sun, he can not grow old and die.

This is a fact about Superman.

Also the affect Kryptonite has on him diminishes the longer he lives.

 

[KAD]

Here are better scans...


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Am I missing something?

He disarmed it he didnt take the blast.

 

[Toby_Temple]

-I swear you are as bad as Hulk fanboys . You are wrong, even an idiot knows that the title "Earth's mightiest mortal" means the mightiest of the humans. Clark isn't a human so therefore doesn't fall under that category. What about Hal Jordan? He wields the most powerful weapon in the universe. Are you going to tell me Marvel is mightier than the most powerful weapon in the universe?...LOL

Why don't you look on a mirror?

Earth's mightiest means Earth's mightiest. I just applying the same logic that you used to accept a definition of immortal to fit Superman in the category of immortal.

So what about Hal Jordan wielding DC universe's most powerful weapon(I seriously don't buy that)? Is CM a weapon? Or maybe you forgot his title? Do you think mightiest = most powerful? Your logic seems to slip away as we move on.t:

-So you conclude from that statement that Superman can't beat him?

And when did I said that? hmmmm?

-I'll repeat this for you..

"Superman explains what has happened in a quick monologue: He and Batman allowed Hawkman and Captain Marvel to think they had bested them in order to give Katana and Power Girl the time and opportunity to track down the boy in Tokyo. At the first chance, the two heroes bested their captors and disguised themselves as them in order to approach the White House without incident."

So much for that advantage, Bats and Supes bested Hawkman and Marvel..i.e. they beat them and disguised themselves as Marvel and Hawkman.

Maybe you forgot what Superman said after blasting CM? SUPERMAN SAID THAT CAPTAIN MARVEL HAS THE ADVANTAGE TOE TO TOE DUE TO THE NATURE OF HIS POWERS.

-Again just because Marvel's powers are magic based doesn't mean an automatic win for him against Superman. My logic holds, Superman has battled magical beings and come out on top. Superman has battled Marvel. Logically if Superman can defeat magical beings then he can defeat Marvel in battle.

LOGIC 101.....again: A winning over B does not mean A would also win against C if B won against C.

-There is more than one definition of "immortal". Each are equally valid. Superman cannot die from old age so in that sense he is immortal. So no it does not contradict my claim as there is more than one definition of immortal.

Literary definitions. But the true meaning of immortal......... Base on that it is logically sound to say that Superman is a mortal.

-That was in Superman/Doomsday Hunter Prey. That came out soon after Superman's return from death. Doomsday and Supes have battle since then.

SUPERMAN: THE DOOMSDAY WARS 1-3, and SUPERMAN #175.

In fact here is a scan of Superman moving so fast he goes intangable. Doomsdays blows are going through him.

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/8848/supermanfast8mt1xe.jpg

It is already canon that Doomsday can't be killed by Superman coz he already killed him and thus Doomsday evolved to make sure that does not happen again. So it is only logical that Superman can't kill Doomsday just by using his own powers. And Superman there was not intangible. It just shows that he dodged the blow and the intangible-like effect is just to show how fast he is. See that part where he flies/leaps to avoid a hammer strike from Doomsday? If he can be intangible then he does not need to escape. See how my logic is better than yours?

 

[Toby_Temple]

Originally Posted by Toby_Temple
Superman constanly getting stronger? Right. Make up more imaginary abilities for Supes just to make an arguement. Marvel was the first super strong hero who can fly and move at amazing speed than Supes while Superman was just a high-jumping superhero until DC decided to copy Marvel's powers and add them to Supes.

I'd like to add more this my first rebuttal in a previous quote. It's wasn't because Captain Marvel that DC change Superman's powers.

When making the Max Fleischer cartoons, the Fleischer Brothers found it difficult to keep animating him leaping and requested to DC to change his ability to flying. Writers gradually increased his powers to larger extents during the Silver Age.

Also yes the more sunlight Clark absorbs the more powerful he becomes. When Superman reaches 100 years of age he will be more powerful. When he is 10,000 years old he will be more powerful than at 100. As I said before...

The longer he lives, the exponentially greater his life expectancy than becomes. The longer he is alive, the more solar energy he takes in. This further increases his body's resiliency, and efficiency, which then leads to his life expectancy increasing,w hich leads to his body becoming even more efficient, further staving off the breakdown of his body, which leads to even more solar energy absorption, which leads to an increase again in his life expactancy, and the cycle goes on and on. THe only way for him to grow old and die is to be away from any kind of yellow sunlight forever. In an environment with a yellow sun, he can not grow old and die.

This is a fact about Superman.

An alibi presented to the court when the makers of Captain Marvel sued DC. The most common and logical conclusion why they adapted the flying ability is because Captain Marvel was more popular during those times.

And the next statements are also wrong. A human and a Kryptonian exposed to a red sun when both is facing a loaded gun.......what's the difference?

Superman can't be killed.......right.

Also the affect Kryptonite has on him diminishes the longer he lives.

Adding again. If Clark was exposed to a red star, the effects of Kryptonite would have been slower. The fact that Kryptonite affects him instantly because of his exposure to the yellow star, our Sun. Don't tell me you don't know that SM fanboy.t:

 

[incubat]

I thougt it was like this: kryptonite as well as superman are affected by the yellow sun in a way that makes kryptonite poisonous to him. but if the kryptonite isn't exposed to a yellow sun it doesn't affect him (on the other hand he loses his powers if he is exposed to a red sun for to long). that's why when hawkman and hawkgirl took him to see the remains of krypton he still had most of his powers while flying through the remains.

 

[Redwolf]

Am I missing something?

He disarmed it he didnt take the blast.

The first scan is clear he is taking the energy of the Warhead.

From the scan...

"Clark that is the essence of Maggedon."

"You can't handle that alone."

Later on Superman says..."Here it comes...concentrated anti-sunlight."

Then it shows Superman visibility in pain saying..."Urgh...Great Krypton...the cold sick horror it..."

Superman is taking the power of the Maggedon Warhead at point blank range.

 

[KAD]

The first scan is clear he is taking the energy of the Warhead.

From the scan...

"Clark that is the essence of Maggedon."

"You can't handle that alone."

Later on Superman says..."Here it comes...concentrated anti-sunlight."

Then it shows Superman visibility in pain saying..."Urgh...Great Krypton...the cold sick horror it..."

Superman is taking the power of the Maggedon Warhead at point blank range.

No SM is being exposed to what powers the warhead not the actual blast and apparently he needs the JLA as a psychic anchor

 

[Redwolf]

Why don't you look on a mirror?

Earth's mightiest means Earth's mightiest. I just applying the same logic that you used to accept a definition of immortal to fit Superman in the category of immortal.

-Yes, Earth’s mightiest means the mightiest human mortal. Captain Marvel is the mightiest “human” earth mortal. I’m not going to keep going over and over this with you. I know it’s hard for you to accept you are wrong but get over it.

-YOU are the only one who believes Marvel is the “Mightiest of all mortals”. When in fact his title claims he is the “Mightiest Earth mortal”, meaning of the humans. Superman isn’t human and doesn’t fall into this category. It’s not the same logic, as I said there is more than one definition of “immortal” each are equally valid. Marvel’s title is “Earth’s mightiest mortal.” There is no bending and twisting what the title means.

So what about Hal Jordan wielding DC universe's most powerful weapon(I seriously don't buy that)? Is CM a weapon? Or maybe you forgot his title? Do you think mightiest = most powerful? Your logic seems to slip away as we move on.t:

-You don’t buy it because it shows you are wrong. FYI it’s been established by DC themselves that a Green Lantern wields “The most powerful weapon in the Universe.” Read any Green Lantern book and see.

-Of course I know a GL ring is a weapon, but that weapon gives the wielder the power. Just as the wizard SHAZAM gave Billy Batson his. YOU Toby have been claiming Marvel is the “mightiest” of the mortals. YOU have been implying he is the most powerful. Don’t you remember this? YOU claimed Marvel is more powerful/mightier than Superman, because according to YOU he’s “Earth’s mightiest mortal.” In terms of raw power a Green Lantern (by wielding the most powerful weapon in the universe) is the most powerful/mightiest.

And when did I said that? hmmmm?

-You've been implying it throughout your posts. When you voted in the poll who did you pick? Let me quess Marvel!

Maybe you forgot what Superman said after blasting CM? SUPERMAN SAID THAT CAPTAIN MARVEL HAS THE ADVANTAGE TOE TO TOE DUE TO THE NATURE OF HIS POWERS.

-I know what Superman said about the toe-to-toe advantage. Apparently that didn’t help because Superman took out Marvel, and Batman took out Hawkman. Then disguised themselves as the Hawkman and Captain Marvel. So much for that “advantage.”

LOGIC 101.....again: A winning over B does not mean A would also win against C if B won against C.

-Wrong, you see many fanboys believe this magical weakness means Superman can’t win against (said magical foe). This isn’t true, as I stated before Superman has defeated magical foes before and held his own against Marvel. Logically this shows Superman’s “weakness” to magic is not so much a “weakness”. See how my logic is better than yours?

Literary definitions. But the true meaning of immortal......... Base on that it is logically sound to say that Superman is a mortal.

-As I said EACH of those definitions of “immortality” are equally valid. Superman cannot die from old age therefore by definition he is an immortal. Just like the Elves in the J.R.R. Tolkien books.

It is already canon that Doomsday can't be killed by Superman coz he already killed him and thus Doomsday evolved to make sure that does not happen again. So it is only logical that Superman can't kill Doomsday just by using his own powers. And Superman there was not intangible. It just shows that he dodged the blow and the intangible-like effect is just to show how fast he is. See that part where he flies/leaps to avoid a hammer strike from Doomsday? If he can be intangible then he does not need to escape. See how my logic is better than yours?

-I never said Superman killed Doomsday in those new battles. I said he defeated Doomsday in those battles. He IS going intangible, the top right part of that scan shows Superman (taking a trick from the Flash) standing still and vibrating so fast he goes intangible, which is why Doomsdays fist goes through his head. Why would Superman be intangible throughout the whole battle? If he remained intangible for the rest of the battle he wouldn’t have been able to punch and KO Doomsday because his fist would go through Doomsday. After Doomsdays fist goes through him, he flies over Doomsday, gets behind him and hits him with heat vision before pounding him into the dirt. That’s what the comic shows.

Your “logic” isn’t “logic” it’s ignorance. See how my logic is better than yours?

 

[Redwolf]

An alibi presented to the court when the makers of Captain Marvel sued DC. The most common and logical conclusion why they adapted the flying ability is because Captain Marvel was more popular during those times.

I have a source which proves my argument. Do you have one for yours?

The Fleischer brothers asked DC to allow Superman to fly because it was harder to draw him leaping all the time. Here is the source…

1. ^Cabarga, Leslie, Beck Jerry, Fleischer, Richard (Interviewees). (2006). "First Flight: The Fleischer Superman Series" (supplementary DVD documentary). Superman II (Two-Disc Special Edition) [DVD]. Warner Bros..

And the next statements are also wrong. A human and a Kryptonian exposed to a red sun when both is facing a loaded gun.......what's the difference?

Superman can't be killed.......right.

Pay attention young padewon because you obvisously are not. You’ve been watching too much Justice League Unlimited.

He's sort of like a battery. A battery under constant charge will burn out, but Clark keeps building a larger and larger store of solar energy. It's not like the moment he is exposed to a yellow sun he gets powers, and the minute he's somewhere else he loses them. He's got a vast energy reserve he can draw upon, and when that runs out he's powerless. Right now in the comics Superman is between 29-35 years of age. This means, he’s got 29-35 years of store up solar energy store up inside him. If Superman were to be transported to a planet with a red sun he wouldn’t automatically lose his powers.

It would depend on…
A. How much solar energy reserves he’s got stored up.
B. How much of that stored up energy he uses.

So when Superman is 100 years old he will have decades of energy stored up inside him. It’s the same thing if he were 10,000 years old. He’d have 10,000 years of stored up solar energy.

Can you read? Where did I say “Superman can’t be killed?” I said he can’t die of old age. Don’t you understand the difference? It is true the older he gets the harder it will be for a foe to kill him. This has been established and shown in the comics.


Read the “Our worlds at war” storyline. There Superman plunges into the sun to get uber powerful so he can push war-world into a boom tube to the beginning of time.

Still don’t believe me that the more solar energy he absorbs the more powerful and resilent he gets? Have you ever read DC One Million? It’s a story about a potential future of the DC Universe 83,000 years from now. Long story short, Superman leaves earth at the end of the 21st century. Why…because his friends and family/loved ones have all died of old age. He leaves earth to his son Superman Secondus, which is the child Clark and Lois had. Superman doesn’t return to earth for 67,000 years. When he does he locates his decendant Superman One Million and makes a covenant with him. Superman then retreats into the sun and hibernates for 16,000 years, he absorbs so much solar energy that he essentially becomes a new god. He leaves the sun only to destroy the baddie in the story.
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Adding again. If Clark was exposed to a red star, the effects of Kryptonite would have been slower. The fact that Kryptonite affects him instantly because of his exposure to the yellow star, our Sun. Don't tell me you don't know that SM fanboy.t:

-No it depends on how much solar energy he absorbs. As I said above


-He's sort of like a battery. A battery under constant charge will burn out, but Clark keeps building a larger and larger store of solar energy. It's not like the moment he is exposed to a yellow sun he gets powers, and the minute he's somewhere else he loses them. He's got a vast energy reserve he can draw upon, and when that runs out he's powerless. He will at some point in the future be immune to kryptonite.

I believe in Kingdom Come Superman was more immune to Kryptonite which is why Marvel had to battle him.

Look I’m not going to sit here and go back and forth with someone as ignorant as you. You obviously have a hard time comprehending Captain Marvel’s title “Earth’s mightiest Mortal.” You have a clear ignorance of Superman, how his powers work, etc. You are a waste of time and I will no longer continue debating you. I’ve provided a rebuttal to your lame arguments which was my purpose in replying to this once dead topic.

 

[Redwolf]

No SM is being exposed to what powers the warhead not the actual blast and apparently he needs the JLA as a psychic anchor

I disagree, Superman is "absorbing" the power of the maggedon Warhead. That power is capable of destroying half a galaxy and Superman is absorbing it that power. Don't think of it as a gun or laser blast.

 

[Toby_Temple]

-Yes, Earth’s mightiest means the mightiest human mortal. Captain Marvel is the mightiest “human” earth mortal. I’m not going to keep going over and over this with you. I know it’s hard for you to accept you are wrong but get over it.

-YOU are the only one who believes Marvel is the “Mightiest of all mortals”. When in fact his title claims he is the “Mightiest Earth mortal”, meaning of the humans. Superman isn’t human and doesn’t fall into this category. It’s not the same logic, as I said there is more than one definition of “immortal” each are equally valid. Marvel’s title is “Earth’s mightiest mortal.” There is no bending and twisting what the title means.

Strawman agruement. I never claimed CM to be the mightiest mortal. Remember his title? "EARTH'S MIGHTIEST MORTAL"?t:

-You don’t buy it because it shows you are wrong. FYI it’s been established by DC themselves that a Green Lantern wields “The most powerful weapon in the Universe.” Read any Green Lantern book and see.

Nope. I'm right. Most powerful weapon in the universe and yet their are still beings who could stand against it. The only weapon/relic that fits those description is Marvel's Heart of the Universe.

-Of course I know a GL ring is a weapon, but that weapon gives the wielder the power. Just as the wizard SHAZAM gave Billy Batson his. YOU Toby have been claiming Marvel is the “mightiest” of the mortals. YOU have been implying he is the most powerful. Don’t you remember this? YOU claimed Marvel is more powerful/mightier than Superman, because according to YOU he’s “Earth’s mightiest mortal.” In terms of raw power a Green Lantern (by wielding the most powerful weapon in the universe) is the most powerful/mightiest.

Strawman again.

-You've been implying it throughout your posts. When you voted in the poll who did you pick? Let me quess Marvel!

Another Strawman. Don't blame me for your ridiculous conclusion fanboy.t:

-I know what Superman said about the toe-to-toe advantage. Apparently that didn’t help because Superman took out Marvel, and Batman took out Hawkman. Then disguised themselves as the Hawkman and Captain Marvel. So much for that “advantage.”

Its the same principle you Superman fanboys use to prove that Superman would win against Hulk most of the time.t:

-Wrong, you see many fanboys believe this magical weakness means Superman can’t win against (said magical foe). This isn’t true, as I stated before Superman has defeated magical foes before and held his own against Marvel. Logically this shows Superman’s “weakness” to magic is not so much a “weakness”. See how my logic is better than yours?

So? Does that mean you think I believe the same crap? Now how can that kind of logic be better than mine?t:

-As I said EACH of those definitions of “immortality” are equally valid. Superman cannot die from old age therefore by definition he is an immortal. Just like the Elves in the J.R.R. Tolkien books.

No there not. You said it yourself. Superman is an immortal in the truest essence of the word. The truest essence of the word immortal means someone who will never die.

-I never said Superman killed Doomsday in those new battles. I said he defeated Doomsday in those battles. He IS going intangible, the top right part of that scan shows Superman (taking a trick from the Flash) standing still and vibrating so fast he goes intangible, which is why Doomsdays fist goes through his head. Why would Superman be intangible throughout the whole battle? If he remained intangible for the rest of the battle he wouldn’t have been able to punch and KO Doomsday because his fist would go through Doomsday. After Doomsdays fist goes through him, he flies over Doomsday, gets behind him and hits him with heat vision before pounding him into the dirt. That’s what the comic shows.

If that is another upgrade to Superman's abilities then I can't do anything about that. DC are clearly trying to make their main man godlike.t: Last time only someone like Flash can do such a feat.

-Your “logic” isn’t “logic” it’s ignorance. See how my logic is better than yours?

Better in your imagination. That's how.t:

 

[Toby_Temple]

I have a source which proves my argument. Do you have one for yours?

The Fleischer brothers asked DC to allow Superman to fly because it was harder to draw him leaping all the time. Here is the source…

1. ^Cabarga, Leslie, Beck Jerry, Fleischer, Richard (Interviewees). (2006). "First Flight: The Fleischer Superman Series" (supplementary DVD documentary). Superman II (Two-Disc Special Edition) [DVD]. Warner Bros..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Comics_Publications_v._Fawcett_Publications

http://www.worldfamouscomics.com/law/back20001024.shtml

Pay attention young padewon because you obvisously are not. You’ve been watching too much Justice League Unlimited.

Those ****ty animated crap why would I be watching.t:

He's sort of like a battery. A battery under constant charge will burn out, but Clark keeps building a larger and larger store of solar energy. It's not like the moment he

is exposed to a yellow sun he gets powers, and the minute he's somewhere else he loses them. He's got a vast energy reserve he can draw upon, and when that runs out he's powerless. Right now in the comics Superman is between 29-35 years of age. This means, he’s got 29-35 years of store up solar energy store up inside him. If Superman were to be transported to a planet with a red sun he wouldn’t automatically lose his powers.

It would depend on…
A. How much solar energy reserves he’s got stored up.
B. How much of that stored up energy he uses.

So when Superman is 100 years old he will have decades of energy stored up inside him. It’s the same thing if he were 10,000 years old. He’d have 10,000 years of stored up solar energy.

Its already an established fact by DC that kryptonians only get superpowers if exposed to a yellow sun.

Can you read? Where did I say “Superman can’t be killed?” I said he can’t die of old age. Don’t you understand the difference? It is true the older he gets the harder it will be for a foe to kill him. This has been established and shown in the comics.

Yes I can read. Like I read you claiming that Superman is immortal.t:

Read the “Our worlds at war” storyline. There Superman plunges into the sun to get uber powerful so he can push war-world into a boom tube to the beginning of time.

Even if that comic wasn't made I would made the same conclusion. I'm too smart not to make an intelligent guess.t:

Still don’t believe me that the more solar energy he absorbs the more powerful and resilent he gets? Have you ever read DC One Million? It’s a story about a potential future of the DC Universe 83,000 years from now. Long story short, Superman leaves earth at the end of the 21st century. Why…because his friends and family/loved ones have all died of old age. He leaves earth to his son Superman Secondus, which is the child Clark and Lois had. Superman doesn’t return to earth for 67,000 years. When he does he locates his decendant Superman One Million and makes a covenant with him. Superman then retreats into the sun and hibernates for 16,000 years, he absorbs so much solar energy that he essentially becomes a new god. He leaves the sun only to destroy the baddie in the story.

A possible future indeed. But that does not undo the fact that if kryptonians are exposed to a red sun they would be like humans.

-No it depends on how much solar energy he absorbs. As I said above

-He's sort of like a battery. A battery under constant charge will burn out, but Clark keeps building a larger and larger store of solar energy. It's not like the moment he is exposed to a yellow sun he gets powers, and the minute he's somewhere else he loses them. He's got a vast energy reserve he can draw upon, and when that runs out he's powerless. He will at some point in the future be immune to kryptonite.

The is very unlikely. It is already an established fact that Superman is vulnerable to kryptonite.

I believe in Kingdom Come Superman was more immune to Kryptonite which is why Marvel had to battle him.

Your belief is irrelevant.

Look I’m not going to sit here and go back and forth with someone as ignorant as you. You obviously have a hard time comprehending Captain Marvel’s title “Earth’s mightiest Mortal.” You have a clear ignorance of Superman, how his powers work, etc. You are a waste of time and I will no longer continue debating you. I’ve provided a rebuttal to your lame arguments which was my purpose in replying to this once dead topic.

Once dead thanks to you. Whether you like it or not, Captain Marvel is Earth's Mightiest Mortal. My knowledge of Superman is enough for me to be certain that Superman is always the underdog in a fight against Captain Marvel due to his advantage. Thank you for wasting you time on me. t:

 

[Czar Colossus]

Wow, I can't believe this arguement is still raging. To be really nitpicky Cap has been named the "World's Mightiest Mortal" (not Earth's). In a fight between Cap and Supes we may never really know. The circumstances could sway things either way, but in a fair battle toe to toe with no outside variables it could concievably go on indefinately. Superman's and Cap's potential lifespans have never been clearly defined, but Superman IS NOT immortal. The great thing about Cap's status is that he is THE ONE BEING that is Superman's equal. That is a hallowed position reserved for him.
Lastly I prefer to think of them in the way that they were portrayed in First Thunder. Superman is a mentor type figure that Billy looks up to. I would have liked to see more of that. (Unfortunately in light of recent developments that is doubtful).
Well that's my 2 cents.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

It has been established by DC that Captain Marvel is not as strong as Superman when he is not holding back. Thats why Caps strength is compared to Wonder Womans and Martian Manhunters who DC says are both not as strong as Superman.

 

[Czar Colossus]

Since when?

 

[incubat]

It has been established by DC that Captain Marvel is not as strong as Superman when he is not holding back. Thats why Caps strength is compared to Wonder Womans and Martian Manhunters who DC says are both not as strong as Superman.

yeah, when was that said?

 

[Eros]

Ultra-herald made it up.

 

[incubat]

^that'd be really sad