Terminator Salvation: Box Office Prediction/Discussion

[Eric Brooks]

I don't think it was a turd and I enjoyed it as a dumb summer blockbuster. The thing is McG's idea for a sequel is atrocious. If bringing him back means that concept will be used then good riddance.

truth

easily PASS if that's the case

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

It's almost to 300 million. Looks like all the studios involved will make their money back. I think there will be a sequel....probably not soon though

 

[dark_b]

You know what I say? Give McG another chance with the sequel, which will hopefully have a better story. TS is not the turd everyone makes it out to be, it just wasn't anything amazing. But I see a lot of good potential in a sequel.

even if they would make the sequel i would never want MCG back.

the guy who lied? the guy who wants for the sequel Connor going back in time? its like he still didnt understand that we want machine fighting humans.

give MCG another chance? MCG is that you ?

 

[dark_b]

It's almost to 300 million. Looks like all the studios involved will make their money back. I think there will be a sequel....probably not soon though

how can every studio make their money back with 300 millions?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I have to agree I dont want McG coming back if he intends to send HK's and John Connor back in time, that is just a silly idea. We at the future war now, I want any possible sequels to stay there. Only one who should be time travelling is Kyle and a few machines, thats it.

On the BO, I can see this at least making close to T3's run internationally. I hope it does much better than T3 internationally though to be honest, so we at least have some chance of a T5.

 

[The Shape]

even if they would make the sequel i would never want MCG back.

the guy who lied? the guy who wants for the sequel Connor going back in time? its like he still didnt understand that we want machine fighting humans.

give MCG another chance? MCG is that you ?

What exactly did he lie about? And what's the big uproar over Connor going back in time? Maybe it's just me, but isn't the Terminator mythos almost entirely based around time travel? Haven't there been multiple instances in which things were sent back in time?

If anything, Connor being sent back in time would be an interesting plotline and would prevent this new "trilogy" from consisting of three movies about the same thing. Of course, we all want machines fighting humans (and have we not gotten that in every Terminator film to date?), but the war hasn't even heated up yet. There are a ton of things that can still take place before we see the setting that we saw at the start of T2.

The one thing I don't understand from McG is the idea of sending Hunter Killers and tons of a machines back in time, which would violate the rule of only sending back things covered in living tissue. Still, I bet the dude's just talking out of his ass right now.

It's not like I'm a heavy duty McG supporter. I just didn't hate TS like so many of you do, and I think McG's got a good visual eye. Maybe now that he's got one of these big budget genre films under his belt, things will go more smoothly on the second go-round. Frankly, I don't care if he gets replaced or not, but I trust him more than I trust of the Terminator "fans". If they got their way, we'd have a 2 and a half hour film depicting the actual war, which would get boring fast. I just want to see a 5th Terminator film.

 

[Eric Brooks]

The one thing I don't understand from McG is the idea of sending Hunter Killers and tons of a machines back in time, which would violate the rule of only sending back things covered in living tissue. Still, I bet the dude's just talking out of his ass right now.

It's not like I'm a heavy duty McG supporter, but I trust him more than I trust of the Terminator "fans".

the bold is exactly why nobody wants McG back, the dude is smoking some PCP laced Crack with that idea. I've heard mental patients make more sense than him after reading that

so sorry to say, but I'd put my trust in the "Terminator fans" over McG at this point

like I said before, if we DO end up getting a sequel from McG and that's how it turns out.......BIG OL' PASS

and this is coming from someone who LOVED Salvation

I would also hope Cameron posseses the power (I would assume he would) to put a stop to that before it even comes to light.

 

[The Shape]

the bold is exactly why nobody wants McG back, the dude is smoking some PCP laced Crack with that idea. I've heard mental patients make more sense than him after reading that

so sorry to say, but I'd put my trust in the "Terminator fans" over McG at this point

like I said before, if we DO end up getting a sequel from McG and that's how it turns out.......BIG OL' PASS

and this is coming from someone who LOVED Salvation

I would also hope Cameron posseses the power (I would assume he would) to put a stop to that before it even comes to light.

I really don't think it would ever happen, though. I don't think anyone would greenlight such a slap in the face to the series. But I think what most of you guys fail to realize is that McG did not write TS, and he would not write T5. The biggest problem with the series, IMO, is keeping the writers of T3 on for TS.

T3 was an unoriginal, carbon copy of the previous films that's only redeeming quality was its ending. Yet, the writers were on board for TS, and everyone *****es at McG for making a sucky movie, when it's not exactly like the guy was working off an Oscar-worthy script. My advice to the makers of the next film would be to ditch those guys and hire some new writers.

 

[Etienne]

the bold is exactly why nobody wants McG back, the dude is smoking some PCP laced Crack with that idea. I've heard mental patients make more sense than him after reading that

so sorry to say, but I'd put my trust in the "Terminator fans" over McG at this point

like I said before, if we DO end up getting a sequel from McG and that's how it turns out.......BIG OL' PASS

and this is coming from someone who LOVED Salvation

I would also hope Cameron posseses the power (I would assume he would) to put a stop to that before it even comes to light.

Since when do plot points openly talked about before a movie even starts filming come to fruition?

 

[Deaths Head II]

Going back in time is stupid. People were tired of that plotline by the time T3 came out. And I even know some people that didn't watch a Terminator film until this one and they don't even feel like seeing the original films because they don't think it would be as exciting without millions of machines roaming around. They're definately not going to be that interested in T5 if that's the case.

The concept alienates too many people. And since the future of the franchise is shaky, we're probably not going to get a T6. And personally, I don't see why we need to go to the past again. The only reason I enjoyed TS more then T3 was because it had actually something new to offer. And the only reason I even want a T5 in the first place is because I find the universe set up in TS to have potential. Ditching that potential and abandoning that universe for the next installment just kills all interest I have in the sequel. If there is a sequel, if McG does get signed on, and if this is the concept that is used, I can say for sure I'm not going to see this film.

I feel as if the people in charge of the Terminator franchise are doing everything in their power to avoid showing the true future war we've been interested in seeing since T1.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Double.

 

[Eric Brooks]

Since when do plot points openly talked about before a movie even starts filming come to fruition?

just rumor round the mill

nothing more

those were my 2 cents SHOULD it come to light

 

[dark_b]

What exactly did he lie about? And what's the big uproar over Connor going back in time? Maybe it's just me, but isn't the Terminator mythos almost entirely based around time travel? Haven't there been multiple instances in which things were sent back in time?

If anything, Connor being sent back in time would be an interesting plotline and would prevent this new "trilogy" from consisting of three movies about the same thing. Of course, we all want machines fighting humans (and have we not gotten that in every Terminator film to date?), but the war hasn't even heated up yet. There are a ton of things that can still take place before we see the setting that we saw at the start of T2.

The one thing I don't understand from McG is the idea of sending Hunter Killers and tons of a machines back in time, which would violate the rule of only sending back things covered in living tissue. Still, I bet the dude's just talking out of his ass right now.

It's not like I'm a heavy duty McG supporter. I just didn't hate TS like so many of you do, and I think McG's got a good visual eye. Maybe now that he's got one of these big budget genre films under his belt, things will go more smoothly on the second go-round. Frankly, I don't care if he gets replaced or not, but I trust him more than I trust of the Terminator "fans". If they got their way, we'd have a 2 and a half hour film depicting the actual war, which would get boring fast. I just want to see a 5th Terminator film.

what exactly? well i am not going to search the internet for that. but if you have time watch and read every interview from him. he lied.


''I just didn't hate TS like so many of you do,''

huge deja vu. every time a movie is a disappointment to the fans , there is always a guy who comes and says why do you hate it. or i didnt hate it like you.

this is not X-men 3 bashing. or fantastic four or elektra or catwomen. no this is a good sumemer blockbuster but a very bad terminator movie IMO.

if this movie wouldnt have good actio then more people would complain and maybe then they would hate it. since people payed money in summer they got some action. but hate? i dont think so. maybe some fans like me who have problems with the story.

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

how can every studio make their money back with 300 millions?

I didn't mean 300 million will make back their money...I meant its almost at 300 million right now....there's still a ways to go to make more, but I think they will make make their money back soon.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Going back in time is stupid. People were tired of that plotline by the time T3 came out. And I even know some people that didn't watch a Terminator film until this one and they don't even feel like seeing the original films because they don't think it would be as exciting without millions of machines roaming around. They're definately not going to be that interested in T5 if that's the case.

The concept alienates too many people. And since the future of the franchise is shaky, we're probably not going to get a T6. And personally, I don't see why we need to go to the past again. The only reason I enjoyed TS more then T3 was because it had actually something new to offer. And the only reason I even want a T5 in the first place is because I find the universe set up in TS to have potential. Ditching that potential and abandoning that universe for the next installment just kills all interest I have in the sequel. If there is a sequel, if McG does get signed on, and if this is the concept that is used, I can say for sure I'm not going to see this film.

I feel as if the people in charge of the Terminator franchise are doing everything in their power to avoid showing the true future war we've been interested in seeing since T1.

Agreed, and if John travels back in time, how will he get 'back to the future' when the time machine was only built for one way trips according to Reese in T1.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Anyone think this will make it to $120 million domestic this weekend? Are any big movies opening this weekend in the US?

 

[Etienne]

^Year One and The Proposal are the "biggest" movies opening this weekend, if you even want to call them that.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Can see TS making $3mill this weekend then.

 

[Carnotaur3]

If anything, Connor being sent back in time would be an interesting plotline and would prevent this new "trilogy" from consisting of three movies about the same thing.

The problem is time travel IS what T1-T3 was all about. This new trilogy is about the future war. Come up with something new in that world, not outside it.

And in McG's defense, he said that Skynet had figured out a way to for the time machine to get passed just living tissue. Not that I'm giving McG the thumbs up to make the film with that plotline, which I think is a step backwards and not forwards.

 

[Celestial]

Finishing No. 2 was Sony's "Terminator Salvation," which dominated the charts last weekend. The fourth title in the action series with Christian Bale grossed $18.4 million from 9,400 screens in 74 territories for an international cume of $200 million. The portion of the total from Sony-handled markets was $174.7 million.

The Hollywood Reporter

 

[Eric Brooks]

And in McG's defense, he said that Skynet had figured out a way to for the time machine to get passed just living tissue. Not that I'm giving McG the thumbs up to make the film with that plotline, which I think is a step backwards and not forwards.

so what's the way then? How did Skynet figure out how to bypass the "only living tissue can be sent through time" aspect? If either you or McG can explain this, I'll give the sequel a shot (if it gets made)

if not, then that just proves dude is picking crap from his ass

 

[Kent]

which would violate the rule of only sending back things covered in living tissue.

Meh. That rule was broken in T2.

 

[Kent]

so what's the way then? How did Skynet figure out how to bypass the "only living tissue can be sent through time" aspect? If either you or McG can explain this, I'll give the sequel a shot (if it gets made)

if not, then that just proves dude is picking crap from his ass

This is ridiculous.
The rule of "only living tissue" was picked out of someone's ass to begin with. It was constructed specifically in order to be able to dodge the question of why the terminator doesn't bring laser blasters (or whatever) from the future, and was readily ignored in T2 when Cameron decided he wanted the T-1000 (liquid metal) in there.

Or put another way... when you (or anyone else) can explain the physics of how time travel works, and why it has to be living tissue, I'll get to cracking on how Skynet gets around it.

 

[Eric Brooks]

Meh. That rule was broken in T2.

not really, the T1000 can make it appear as though it has living tissue surrounding it. Probably just enough to bypass the time traveling device, which makes enough sense.

Like I said, I enjoyed Salvation but it seems like McG is purposely trying to ignore "the little details" Cameron created because neither he nor his writing team are smart enough to incorporate them into HIS trilogy.

Almost like whenever they get stumped during the writing process they just put their brains on "ignore" and continue writing without trying to resolve or make sense of what's stumping them. They're literally not smart enough to understand Cameron's work

and it's a shame

 

[Kent]

not really, the T1000 can make it appear as though it has living tissue surrounding it. Probably just enough to bypass the time traveling device, which makes enough sense.

Make it appear? I'm sorry what? No, only living tissue passes, not "stuff that looks like living tissue".