Terminator Salvation: Box Office Prediction/Discussion

[Dark Victory]

It's not going to pull a POTC or a BB. I'm 100% sure of that.

Hell I didn't dislike the flick but I just don't see the Star Trek type word of mouth happening.

I agree. I forgot to add that "it could happen...if hell freezes over."

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I don't know how many more times it must be said before it sinks into some people's heads. The last two Terminator films (both made for $200+ million) were box-office under-performers and The Sarah Connor Chronicles was a failure as a television series. This franchise = done.

The Sarah Connor Chronicles was a dumb idea to begin with. It's concept wasn't strong enough for a television series and budget restraints kept the vision from growing to its fullest potential.

 

[dude stannis]

Wolverine doesn't sell as many comic books as Spider-Man does any given month. Wolverine doesn't have solo cartoons. He doesn't have a daily newspaper strip. And his movies, solo or otherwise, don't gross as much as Spider-Man's movies.

Yet ask any post pubescent male who is cooler and they'll all say Wolverine.

 

[Episode29]

It's a sad day in film when Dance Flick or Night At The Museum has a bigger audience than Terminator Salvation. Terminator Salvation wasn't a bad film and I found it to be a solid, gritty, and very intense film that deserves to be part of the Terminator series.

Perhaps they should've released the film itself in the fall rather than the summer.

Dance Flick doesn't. Let's not get over-dramatic.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't know how many more times it must be said before it sinks into some people's heads. The last two Terminator films (both made for $200+ million) were box-office under-performers and The Sarah Connor Chronicles was a failure as a television series. This franchise = done.

Exactly. Also as you stated before the series was never as popular as the studios obviously believed. T2 is the only real out and out blockbuster of the franchise.

I'm happy that it is over because the last two movies haven't been good enough.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

I liked T3 and T4, but there's no denying that both fell below box-office projections.

 

[Episode29]

I seems to me that prognosticators think the Terminator is worth much more to the general audience than it really is. I mean, T2 was the franchises only smash installment, and that was 18 years ago. One smash film does not a long-term reliable franchise make.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Dance Flick doesn't. Let's not get over-dramatic.

I'm just stating by what I saw via my experience working at a movie theatre over the weekend.

Seriously there's no way Night at the Museum and Dance Flick should've even come close to Terminator.

 

[Lighthouse]

For me, the Terminator franchise ended when Arnold slowly sunk into molten lava. I remember Cameron had a deleted scene for T2 where Sarah is narrating from the future where Judgment Day didn't happen. That's pretty much the ending I accepted.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I liked T3 and T4, but there's no denying that both fell below box-office projections.

I kinda liked them too... as dumb fun action movies but they weren't as good as the first one and didn't even come close to the second one IMHO.

 

[Dark Victory]

"For me, the Terminator franchise ended when Arnold slowly sunk into molten lava. I remember Cameron had a deleted scene for T2 where Sarah is narrating from the future where Judgment Day didn't happen. That's pretty much the ending I accepted."





^To be honest, I always wanted a third Terminator written and directed by Cameron that was about the future war.

 

[Episode29]

At this point the Future War feels a lot like the Clone Wars: something infinitely cooler in my mind than when translated to film.

 

[redfirebird2008]

At this point the Future War feels a lot like the Clone Wars: something infinitely cooler in my mind than when translated to film.

Agree, though I think Cameron could have pulled it off. Hell, anyone with good storytelling sensibilities could have pulled it off. McG and the writers of Catwoman?

 

[Lighthouse]

At this point the Future War feels a lot like the Clone Wars: something infinitely cooler in my mind than when translated to film.

Moriarty had a great point about this in his article about Phantom Menace's 10th anniversary.

Looking Back At 1999: Jar-Jar Binks is ten years old...

See, I'm not a hater of the prequels. I don't love them, either. Hell, I've got something like 10,000 films in my house, but I don't actually own any of the three prequels. I'll probably fix that when they make it to BluRay. But I do have my theory why the prequels simply didn't connnect with many audiences. And it's not an answer that Hollywood's going to like, especially when you look at the way they seem determined to fill in every single blank in every single geek property ever created.

Because I'm not blinded by the hatred, I have a pretty good idea why the hatred exists in the first place.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

And prequels are a narrative dead end. Period.

Please. Please. Please.

Stop giving geeks what they ask for.

"I want the Clone Wars!"

No. No, you don't.

You think you do. But you don't.

"I want the Terminator Future War!"

Again... no. You really, really don't.

It's Pavlovian. You're watching some good science-fiction movie you love and they mention "attack ships on fire off the belt of Orion" or some such thing... like "You're older than the Zarkon Battlefields," and you end up liking the movie a lot, so you end up watching the movie a lot because that's what geeks do. And by the 43rd time watching it, and half-watching it, and watching it with friends while talking, and wallpaper-watching it, you hear that line again... "You're older than the Zarkon Battlefields"... and you think in passing, "Man, I'd like to see the Zarkon Battlefields." And then it becomes a thing, an itch you feel like you need to scratch.

No, no you don't.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

McG sure knows how to direct action it's too bad he's s**t at directing actors.

 

[The Dark Defender]

I wanted a Terminator future war, and I'm glad I got it; I don't give a **** about Star Wars in general so clone wars is a non issue with me.

 

[Dark Knight]

I think everyone has seriously overestimated Christian Bale's star power.

Well I don't think it's Bales fault Salvation isn't going to make 250 million domestically. If the studio heads and some of you fans in here are so depressed and disappointed than perhaps you should both look at yourselves in the mirror for overestimating?

Films Bale has been in have done pretty well overall. Having BB and of course the #2 money making movie of all time in TDK are at the top.

Every other potential blockbuster below that on his resume is gravy.

Public Enemies will make money. 310 to Yuma did well and so did the Prestige.

Salvation will make money when it is all said and done as well. The Fighter about the life of "Irish" Mickey Ward will be a popular boxing film that will make a profit.

What do you some of you expect?

 

[Lighthouse]

Well I don't think it's Bales fault Salvation isn't going to make 250 million domestically. If the studio heads and some of you fans in here are so depressed and disappointed than Perhaps you should both look at yourselves in the mirror for overestimating?

Films Bale has been in have done pretty well overall. Having BB and of course the #2 money making movie of all time in TDK are at the top.

Every other potential blockbuster below that on his resume is gravy.

Public Enemies will make money. 310 to Yuma did well and so did the Prestige.

Salvation will make money when it is all said and done as well. The Fighter about the life of "Irish" Mickey Ward will be a popular boxing film that will make a profit.

What do you some of you expect?

It isn't his fault, but if the producers were depending on Bale's star power(and the fact that he was able to request a script change says they were) they made a serious error.

 

[Dark Knight]

I wonder how the Bat Nuts feel about Ben Stiller kicking Christian Bales ass

It's more like a higher percentage of FAMILIES with under 13 year olds wanted to watch a FAMILY style kid friendly comedy instead of a serious sci fi war film. Makes sense right?

It doesn't have anything to do with Stiller vs Bale.

Your comment is silly....wake up....

 

[Dark Knight]

I wanted a Terminator future war, and I'm glad I got it;

^^I'm glad I got to see it also. I didn't go in expecting T1 and T2 and I didn't want the same formula used as those films either.

 

[Caped Crusader]

I wanted a Terminator future war, and I'm glad I got it; I don't give a **** about Star Wars in general so clone wars is a non issue with me.

Same here . Heres hoping for T5

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I wish there were some more character moments to go along with that war. Unless this movie spouts mad legs T5 will be coming out about the same time as a Ben Affleck staring Dare Devil 2. It won't spout mad legs so I'm sure the franchise is over.

 

[The Dark Defender]

They may not be in a hurry for a follow up, I doubt it's over permanently though.

 

[Dark Victory]

It's more like a higher percentage of FAMILIES with under 13 year olds wanted to watch a FAMILY style kid friendly comedy instead of a serious sci fi war film. Makes sense right?

It doesn't have anything to do with Stiller vs Bale.

Your comment is silly....wake up....

Don't forget that the piece of **** labeled "Wolverine" will probably do better than this. Just because a film had a good box office income doesn't make it a good film.

 

[FaT_tONle]

It could be the economy as well... all the movies have slightly underperformed... May lineups usually set records on an annual basis. Not the case this year. But with these dark films like Watchmen and TS underperforming... you wonder if it's only a matter of time before WB goes back to campy films geared at a younger audience. At least that would bode well for Superman... which shouldn't be very dark... assuming the reboot even happens in the next four years.