The Amazing Spider-Man The After Credits Scene and other nitpicks

[Anno_Domini]

They captured a live goblin.

Lol. That...that made me laugh.

We're not taking about actual real world science here, so anything goes. He could have slighlty altered the formula, so that he doesn't turn into the Lizard like Connors, and that alteration is enough to heal him without any dis-figuring side-effects, but drives him insane.

Of course we're not talking about real world science when no one could even turn into a giant lizard, but it definitely needs a lot of alterations to keep Osborn away from turning into a lizard as Dr. Connors. Sure, I think an alteration would be the best way to go and to also transform him into something hideous. Not looking like a goblin since there's no such thing, but to become disfigured enough that one like J. Jonah Jameson could dub him "The Green Goblin".

 

[BritishChap007]

All this being said, when I thought about retreading villains that were in the Raimi series, I do think it could work great. But, unlike Spidey, we really wouldn't need to redo their origins; at least not in the typical mold: introduce character, character gets desperate, character becomes villain.

The Green Goblin should be lurking fully transformed for a movie or two, and then only after him and Peter fight several times, should they explain: this is Norman, he took the serum (when), has been bad ever since, yadda yadda.

 

[TX85]

I didn't find the cranes cringeworthy at all. If Spiderman hadn't saved his son then yes it would have been bad like SM1 bad.

How exactly is the lab coat suppose to stay on when he grows double his normal size.

As for the scene with Osbourn and Connors. I took it more as he had something to do with their death, not that they had a direct connection to his origin.

Agreed!

 

[Jexx]

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[chaseter]

That site does not look legit.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

... Legit websites don't do that

 

[Jexx]

Nah, the adfly site isn't a scam. The article itself is though, it came out a year ago and has nothing to do with the DVD.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Newb, you're doing a great job in getting banned.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

My biggest nitpick: I would understand their design choice for the lizard if they had to show emotion in the character, but in the movie they never really do. He is angry... ok? There's no parts whatsoever where he has to show any other emotions, so why did they even think they had to choose that design?

 

[MilkmanDan]

Oh come on. The Lizard also had a really cute smile... Seriously, there were couple of moments where I thought the character looked adorable.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

thanks WiseassDan

 

[Jexx]

I liked the design of the Lizard :/

 

[Supa]

I liked the design of the Lizard :/

Me too. Like Spidey's new costume, he just looks odd in the shots Sony released before the movie. In motion, they both look pretty good.

 

[MilkmanDan]

thanks WiseassDan

I'm not kidding. I don't know if it's a good thing or not, but Lizard reminded me of Gollum in the way his facial expressions seemed disturbingly endearing at times.

 

[Hugebear]

Somebody turn on the lights!
If you could turn on the lights what would we see?

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

So a cross-species serum made him Green Goblin? How would that work?

It will probably be an advanced form of the serum, but with similar properties. That explains the green skin, sharp teeth, insanity, heightened strength/agility, etc. It's really obvious when you think about it... especially when the serum was supposed to save Norman's life. Not saying the guy in the post-credits scene was Norman, but I'm saying that it's not complicated to understand why the serum would change him into something Goblin-esque.

EDIT: Just saw your reply to Golgo and I fully agree.

 

[Golgo-13]

Lol, What's your avi from ThePoweCosmic?!

 

[Anno_Domini]

Somebody turn on the lights!
If you could turn on the lights what would we see?

Michael Massee.

 

[Golgo-13]

It will probably be an advanced form of the serum, but with similar properties. That explains the green skin, sharp teeth, insanity, heightened strength/agility, etc. It's really obvious when you think about it... especially when the serum was supposed to save Norman's life. Not saying the guy in the post-credits scene was Norman, but I'm saying that it's not complicated to understand why the serum would change him into something Goblin-esque.

EDIT: Just saw your reply to Golgo and I fully agree.

That's the thing i'm hoping they avoid. I don't want Osborn dis-fgured by the goblin formula. I want him to don a goblin mask, as opposed to looking like a troll of some kind due to the formula. The thing that i've always loved about the classic GG is that Spidey and the audience would not know when the GG persona had taken over Norman cause Osborn looks like a normal guy.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

Somebody turn on the lights!
If you could turn on the lights what would we see?

I am not sure turning on the lights would even make a difference... I still wouldn't know who it is (I mean I might recognize the actor or something) but unless he's wearing a name tag it wouldn't really tell me who his playing lol

he would need to have some very obvious characteristics to indicate who its suppose to be

That's the thing i'm hoping they avoid. I don't want Osborn dis-fgured by the goblin formula. I want him to don a goblin mask, as opposed to looking like a troll of some kind due to the formula. The thing that i've always loved about the classic GG is that Spidey and the audience would not know when the GG persona had taken over Norman cause Osborn looks like a normal guy.

maybe he wears a mask to cover his disfigured face (not that his disfiguration's are necessarily goblin or troll like) just that he's just badly disfigured

 

[iqbalkr]

it makes no sense if the serum turned dr.connors into lizard and in different times, it turned norman into green goblin

 

[Super Jim]

This one just seems so easy...

When Peter goes to Oscorp for the first time there is a holographic poster/picture with an audio recording. The audio states something like "The founder of Oscorp, Norman Osborn" and the picture is, obviously, of Norman Osborn.

Now everyone seems to have figured out that the actor who played the mysterious shadow figure was Michael Massee, and I have to agree from what I observed the second time I saw the movie and again from looking at stills online.

So, simple question...

Was the face in the postor/picture at Oscorp, which again was Norman Osborn, that of Michael Massee?

For some very odd reason I can't seem to find a still of this picture/poster anywhere online. Anyone have access to it so we can see?

Beyond this major piece of evidence I did take special note when I saw the after credits scene for the second time and if you listen to Michael Massee he really seems to be going out of his way to make his voice very Norman Osborn/Green Goblin-ish...

In additon if you're going to go with the standard Spider-Man storyline, Gwen Stacey needs to be killed by the Green Gobin. How else can you have the "Gwen Stacey Syndrome". Plus at some point Mary-Jane needs to come in (they were best friends and consolling each other is what leads to Mary-Jane and Peter becoming romantic).

Perfect setup if you think about it...

Movie 1 - Lizard/background of Peter/introduce parents/introduce Norman
Movie 2 - Have a dying Norman Osborn find out about Peter and send a suited mercenary (or two) or a hunter to capture Spiderman or to try to get a blood sample. This could either Scorpion (given his suit by Osborn) and either Rhino (altered by Osborn) or Electro (Given powers by Osborn) or it could be Kraven the Hunter and his half-brother the Cameleon. If it was the later the Cameleon could pretend to be Richard Parker, which would give added ability to delve into Peter's father's back story.
Movie 3 - Using the blood sample aquired in the 2nd movie Norman Osborn is able to develop a serum to save his life. This leads to him becoming mentally unstable and possibly having other physical complications. Any of this could lead to him seeking out Parker, and since he already knows that Parker is Spider-Man he can go after those closest to Parker. This of course leads to Goblin dropping Stacey off the bridge and Spider-Man using his web to catch her, which snaps her neck. Gwen dies, but at least we had her for three full movies. The ending scene can be Peter and Mary-Jane (Gwen's best friend) consoling each other...
Movie 4 - Harry Osborn wants revenge on Spider-Man for killing his father. Hopefully we never get into the Harry as the Green Goblin story, but usinng Harry for a revenge storyline is perfect. This is when the Max Gargon can be brought in as a mercenary who is willing to undego cybernetic transplants in order to be able to combat Spider-Man as Scorpion. Could even have a seconday villian who is given powers by Osborn. Maybe Shocker or better yet Electro or Rhino. Maybe Rhino and Scorpion would be too similar. Electro would be cool combined with Scorpion. Of course Peter's and Mary-Jane's relationship gets a little deper. This would also be a great time to bring in Felicia Hardy/Black Cat. Maybe have her cause friction/problems for Peter and Mary-Jane. Maybe even a little "cat fight" (pun intended).
Movie 5 - About time to bring in Eddie Brock and Venom. This time use the meteor story line for bringing in the symbiote. Keep this one strictly Venom versus Spidey, with maybe a bit more Black Cat. This one ends with Eddie Brock in jail/mental asylum and Cletus in the cell next door (or at least in the facility). The small piece of symbiot left attached leaves Brock and finds Cassidy. The choice between Felicia or Mary-Jane concludes. Maybe Black Cat dies in the fight against Venom.
Movie 6 - This one is dark. The sole foe is Carnage.

 

[Hugebear]

I am not sure turning on the lights would even make a difference... I still wouldn't know who it is (I mean I might recognize the actor or something) but until he's wearing a name tag it wouldn't really tell me who his playing lol

he would need to have some very obvious characteristics to indicate who its suppose to be

Exactly, remove all the theatrical execution and speculation all we got left is what we see.

 

[roach]

which is why I hated the scene...it raised a question we already had and added nothing.

 

[Hugebear]

Movie 2 - Have a dying Norman Osborn find out about Peter and send a suited mercenary (or two) or a hunter to capture Spiderman or to try to get a blood sample. This could either Scorpion (given his suit by Osborn) and either Rhino (altered by Osborn) or Electro (Given powers by Osborn) or it could be Kraven the Hunter and his half-brother the Cameleon. If it was the later the Cameleon could pretend to be Richard Parker, which would give added ability to delve into Peter's father's back story.

I actually had similar thoughts, but in mine the Chameleon would be the mercenary and he would pretend to be Richard Parker to get close to Peter to get the blood sample. That could be the way to make more use of the actor playing Richard.