The All Things Flash Thread. - Part 2

[emielaen]

Look, the MCU gave extra VFX time and more VFX budget to Infinity War & Endgame, that's why BP looked the way it did in the third act. This movie has been in post-production for what feels like years. So yes, you can bail out this movie and say "that's the go-to criticism of all movies these days" but that simply should not apply to these DC movies that haven't been rushed, aren't associated with a bloated slate (where VFX teams are stretched extremely thin), and have been in post for this long. It's entirely fair to criticize this movie for looking like crap, not even from a VFX standpoint alone, but the suits all look incredibly terrible. Something about that Batman cowl on Keaton doesn't look right. The Flash suit is just a complete dud. It's a visual eyesore from top to bottom in this trailer. The story intrigues me though, I really enjoy the elements of MoS being included here, and Calle looks great as Supergirl so I'll hold off a final verdict until I see more, but this concerns me just as much as Spider-Man: No Way Home did before the movie came out. Wherein we have completely unique visuals from respective universes (Burton/Snyder) that are being melded into this "Muschietti" universe that looks fairly bland so far.

I didn't say anything about the MCU. I said its a go to critique because its usually true re: these big films not named Avatar lol

But are you referring to design choices or the execution of said design re: VFX? I think the design work here is pretty clunky, I can't say I'm that much of a fan. But the CGI looks unfinished. Its not a bail out. Its just what it looks like to me rn. If it looks the same in theaters, then it'll go down as having shoddy CGI. End of story. I think Keaton looks fine. Not much about that bothers me. Flash's suit is clunky as hell. I don't really like it. But I never said certain critiques weren't valid. That is if the critique is actually worth something as opposed to just saying "its awful". That's a nothing critique to me. Incredibly terrible is a stretch imo, but I don't love em either.

What looks solid to me is the actual camera work and movement within it. I like some of the movement and things staying within the frame as opposed to a million cuts. The story and plot overall also intrigues me.

 

[#root]

Ok that actually looked surprisingly good to me. There was some footage released before, maybe at CinemaCon or something that I thought looked absolutely terrible so I had zero hope for this. I remember being shocked how atrociously cheap that footage looked. And with all things Ezra Miller, I was not going to watch this. But now… I’m shocked. I’m probably going to watch this.

Not in theatres though. Definitely won’t be paying .

 

[Silvermoth]

That was a fun trailer. Very snyderesque of course but clearly it’s a send off to that era.

I’m wondering though, I couldn’t see Ezra coming back after this but if they did do another flash movie what would they do now that flashpoint is done?

 

[TMP98]

idk, this looks pretty good outside of the really bad vfx work

 

[emielaen]

I’m wondering though, I couldn’t see Ezra coming back after this but if they did do another flash movie what would they do now that flashpoint is done?

Something with his Rogues probably.

 

[AntonGobbs89]

This is probably my most anticipated superhero film this year after that trailer.

 

[Closerframe]

Bad CGI aside, outside of The Suicide Squad, this looks like the most fun DC has had in awhile.

 

[titansupes]

Yeah. I'm hyped. I'm very hyped.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Oh yeah this is definitely my most anticipated cbm of the year by a long mile. I'm not a huge guardians fans and that trailer did nothing for me. This one was much better. Also, it just looks like a fun comic books experience. It's not overly grim.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well damn it this actually looks pretty damn good. Keaton doesn't seem to be missing a beat and the stuff with the likes of the MOS events happening but with no Superman there seems really interesting to me.

 

[king666]

Honestly, I like the new Flash suit. Sure, it has some issues (random patterns, lines, etc) but overall it looks pretty different from everything else in the genre imo.

 

[kguillou]

I also like Barry's new suit. Yeah it looks a bit too CGI-y but I like the design and how the red pops.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

That was a fun trailer. Very snyderesque of course but clearly it’s a send off to that era.

I find that ridiculous.
WB isnt satisfied of DCEU so they make Flash movie to erase this verse and create another universe (including younger Superman and Batman, kid Damian Wayne)

Im joking about Batman enter "yeaf, yeah, Im Batman"

 

[antsman41]

Also, if you're going to try and replicate the '89 cave... try harder. You're missing the walkway to the left of the turnstile.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

In the midst of Ezra being a terrible person and their relatively annoying performances as Flash in the past I had sort of forgotten that they're the most talented member of the DCEU JL cast by a pretty significant margin.

The double Barry thing is a great hook.

 

[samsnee]

I showed my dad this trailer and he was completely surprised by Keaton. He was like "wait a minute is that...who i think it is?!"

WB knows Keaton is the draw here.

I’m showing my age but 89 Batman was a cultural phenomenon. Comic book movies were a joke and afterthought between Donner’s Superman and Burton’s Batman.

That Batman movie showed that the character could be taken seriously on the big screen, and kids like me ate it up. If this movie is going to make bank, it needs the kids who see Keaton as their Batman to show up.

 

[MaceB]

And I’m not going to. I find the whole thing insulting. A shallow effort to convince audience to come see the movie. Not through good storytelling, good design, or quality actors but through a gimmick. Because after 2 decades, WB still doesn’t understand the dramatic potential of comic book stories.

I’m tired of it. I’m not gonna be seeing this in theaters. That’s for sure.

 

[Legendver2]

You mean like the 3 Spider-Men in NWH? That made almost 2 billion dollars? And how do you know it won't have good storytelling based on a 2 minute trailer?

 

[Kane52630]

 

[antsman41]

Is this the most dead of a forum for a blockbuster comic book film on the Hype ever?

We're 4 plus years in, the movie is out this summer and there are only 5 real threads, and most discussion is in 2 of them.

And the two most talked about topics is 'Michael Keaton - Batman' and the criminal acts of it's main actor, kind of crazy.

 

[Web-Head]

My oh my how the tables have turned, wow, I cannot wait for this movie now! The Flash has always been my favorite character from DC and after being severely disappointed with Ezra as the character in Justice League and even more so in the acts they've committed that have put a cloud around this film. My hype for this movie has just shifted tenfold after the trailer and the buzz it's getting from the likes of James Gunn.

 

[Spider-jedi]

It’s interesting to me that the Burtonverse Barry has blue lightning and they’ve given Snyderverse Barry the yellow lightning.

Simple explanation is they gave him yellow to be more comic accurate and the other Barry got blue to set them apart.

Slightly more nuanced take is that yellow is just meant to show he has a deeper connection with the Speed Force now.

My wild ass tinfoil hat theory is the Snyderverse Barry isn’t from the Snyderverse at all. He’s from another universe that will lead into the Gunnverse. And something bad happens with Burtonverse Barry that sets him off and leads to him creating and inhabiting the Snyderverse. And so Burtonverse Barry would basically have been the true architect and overarching antagonist of the Snyderverse. Purposely orchestrating events to try to get back home.

I think that would still mark the end of the Snyderverse, but it could be a way of saying it exists out there in the multiverse with a corrupted Barry pulling the strings. Meanwhile we move on with Gunn’s universe.

interesting headcanon. Snyder changed the lighting cuz i personally believe yellow was too bright for the color tone he wanted for his world. also notice how in ZSJL when barry saved iris when he is slowing down he is breaking up the road but in the trailer for the flash film they got rid of that. its like snyder wanted some real world physics but its just brought up too many question imo

 

[Gothamsknight]

 

[antsman41]

...literally just fix these 3 things and this suit goes from a 4/10 to almost an 8/10.

Add the Yellow Belt and calm his chest/**** down a bit, and it's up there with Returns.

 

[Kane52630]