The All Things Flash Thread. - Part 1

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  1. Thread Manager

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    This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]488513[/split]
     
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  2. KRYPTON INC.

    KRYPTON INC. Incorporated Kryptonian

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    And just like a thunderbolt... We got our own thread to discuss the upcoming film starring Ezra Miller as the Scarlet Speedster and all things pertaining to the Fastest Man Alive, including past incarnations in comics, animation and live action TV.
     
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  3. UltimateMarvel

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    The rumors said it's a creepy take on Captain Cold, what if it is Flashpoint Captain Cold? Also, not using Lauren Cohen and Jeffrey Dean Morgan would be a waste.
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  4. Sawyer

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    Isn't Flashpoint Captain Cold heroic?
     
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  5. ThePhantasm

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    agreed, i still think this will happen at some point
     
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  6. BlueLanternKal

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    Nah, he's basically the same. The FP universe is so ****ed up he's considered good by it's standards.
     
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  7. AvegningSpider

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    I still say Cold shouldn't be a creepy serial killer, it would go against his character, pre or post-Flashpoint (then again this is the universe with a Bat-branding Batman and a Joker in the style of Grant Morrison so it wouldn't surprise me, though it would surprise me if this happens with Geoffy Johns on the helm)
     
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    Yeah not a fan of Captain Cold or the rogues as anything but criminals with a code. That's their charm, that they aren't like Batman or Spider-Man's enemies.
     
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    There has to be stakes in this movie if Cold's the main villain. Classic Cold as is in the comics doesn't work.
     
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    I wouldn't use the rogues as the main antagonist, you can use Reverse Flash, Gorrilla Grodd or someone as sinister.
     
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    Reverse Flash should be saved for the sequel imo, he's the ultimate, end-all Flash villain. Grodd is VERY large-scale and i'm not sure if WB or Famuyiwa are ready to go that huge for the first Flash film.
     
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  12. AvegningSpider

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    Disagree on that, Classic Cold with a N52 like story with Snart fighting for his sister or just a story with all of the Rogues but the movie is mostly focussed on Barry and Snart and their rivalry could be really fun, there can be stakes but it ain't necessary to sacrifice the character's main appeal just to make them treatning/upping the stakes.
     
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    Yeah, I don't need huge stakes in this movie, Cold and the Rogues are interesting enough, and seeing one hero fight several villains at once is something I really want to see, the Flash and the Rogues is a somewhat unique rivalry among superheroes and their villains and I think it's worth exploring. Save the high stakes and villains like Reverse Flash for the sequel.
     
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    i feel like it'll be difficult to make cold vs. the flash a fair fight unless they make him a meta human.
     
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    They don't have to fight.
     
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    I understand where you're coming from, but you have to take into account that for a movie, the classic "Cat & Mouse" rivalry Barry & Snart had in the comics pre-new 52 doesn't work for a movie. There's an unwritten rule in a film that MOST movies (action movies especially) follow. A movie has to have a three act structure: 1. beginning/set-up for the story -- 2. Confrontation/whatever was established in the first act is at the middle point and the protagonist of the story usually goes through a character journey and they are tested by trial -- 3. Climax. The stakes & set-up that was established in the first act reach their most intense point in the story.

    Classic Cold doesn't fit that mold for two reasons: 1) his motivations are testing The Flash or wanting money. 2). He usually doesn't want to kill the Flash. The tension can not be raised for a third act because his motivation almost never go beyond the ones highlighted in the first point. It doesn't build to a Climax and final confrontation.


    New 52 Cold has a potentially great motivation for wanting to destroy The Flash (sister's death) and is more adaptable for a movie with 3 acts. Plus his action sequences would be more engaging and visually interesting than Classic Snart.
     
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    You can have stakes without death, the cat and mouse game in Catch me if you can was terribly good.
     
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    That's a 40 minute episode with a completely different structure from a 2+ hour movie.
     
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    Catch Me if you can is movie by Steven Spielberg starring Tom Hanks and Leonardo DiCaprio.
     
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    :funny:
     
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    Knightmare Flash
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  22. Micromind

    Micromind New World New Rules

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    Doesn't look like him ? :huh:

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  23. UltimateMarvel

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    The final design has some different details but both have the helmet and the torso
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    This is just a concept art.
     
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    My bad, thought you was talking about the 90s tv show. But even then, CMIUC is a biographical crime drama. It's not an action movie nor a superhero film.
     
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  25. Paradox1

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    Just because there has never been a comic book film like doesn't mean there can't be. If your gonna have just the Captain Cold in a Flash film than CMIUC is the template I'd want used. It would stick out and break the mold once again of what people think a CBM can be. Not the all life on earth is ending scenario, just a guy trying to stop a criminal from robbing banks.
     
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