The All Things Flash Thread.

[erehwon0]

This New 52 origin of having Barry be driven by a tragedy has only been told in a number of years. Pre new 52, Barry Allen was just a dedicated civil servant who was given the powers of a god.

I kind of was disappointed that Geoff Johns retconned The Flash origin to give him a more concrete reason to be good like Batman. Seems no one believes people can be good because they can be like Superman. Maybe people thinks its more relatable? Reasonable? I don't know.

Anyway, that casting list which still has to be confirmed has no Joe West, Caitlin Snow nor Cisco Ramon so it seems that pretty much differentiates the TV universe from the DCEU. But having the Reverse Flash in there makes it just that much closer to the TV show.

I really like to see Mirror Master as the villain. Bring in his Mirror World and that would be a compelling villain. Just the idea of his abilities is being shown on screen will be like watcing scenes from Inception, 2001and Interstellar all mashed together.

 

[Tg11]

Or if anything they could always have Captain Boomerang as the villain for Flash's origin film

 

[BMCAABY]

Or if anything they could always have Captain Boomerang as the villain for Flash's origin film

How about no. Seems pretty dumb.
It is most probably going to be Eobard Thawne.

 

[BMCAABY]

This New 52 origin of having Barry be driven by a tragedy has only been told in a number of years. Pre new 52, Barry Allen was just a dedicated civil servant who was given the powers of a god.

I kind of was disappointed that Geoff Johns retconned The Flash origin to give him a more concrete reason to be good like Batman. Seems no one believes people can be good because they can be like Superman. Maybe people thinks its more relatable? Reasonable? I don't know.

Anyway, that casting list which still has to be confirmed has no Joe West, Caitlin Snow nor Cisco Ramon so it seems that pretty much differentiates the TV universe from the DCEU. But having the Reverse Flash in there makes it just that much closer to the TV show.

I really like to see Mirror Master as the villain. Bring in his Mirror World and that would be a compelling villain. Just the idea of his abilities is being shown on screen will be like watcing scenes from Inception, 2001and Interstellar all mashed together.

I see what you mean with that idea, but there has to be Eobard Thawne in a Flash film. He is pretty much the Lex Luthor or Joker to the Flash.
The tragedy is not really only a tragedy anymore because Eobard Thawne kills his mother which makes it about rivalry but also altering the timeline.
I think in DCEU the best way to go about a grand FLASH movie that will make more money is by having it semi-based on Flashpoint storyline.

I mean not having alot alternate timeline heroes clashing and murdering but having some. Like Aquaman showing up would be good, with Thomas Wayne in there aswell.. but having the main plot be about Barry Allen and Eobard Thawne. I mean instead of there being a huge mash up between Aquaman and WonderWoman because that is too much for one movie, they should just show that either Aquaman or Wonder Woman is brutally violent. Making it brief appearances but having Thomas Wayne help Barry throughout in his own journey to fight against Eobard. That would be great. So there would be more interaction between Barry and Thawne but also retaining the cool elements of the flashpoint storyline.

I think the origin of the Flash should be just shown in the opening credits that way it gets done with and everyone knows immediately how he gets his powers. But it has to be done a neat and clever way. Since it's about speed a complete slo-mo (deadpool like opening credits) seems awesome. Also similar to Watchmen.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Cold, Kadabra, or Mirror Master would all be good choices for the first films villain. It probably will be Thawne though.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Even post-Johns, the parents situation isn't what fuels the Flash's heroics. It's just the reason why he became a csi, trying to solve his parents' case.

There is a story to tell there, one of temptation, abuse of power, etc, but I wouldn't call it 'the origin story' in the same way Uncle Ben and the Waynes are very much why Peter and Bruce become superheroes.

 

[BMCAABY]

Even post-Johns, the parents situation isn't what fuels the Flash's heroics. It's just the reason why he became a csi, trying to solve his parents' case.

There is a story to tell there, one of temptation, abuse of power, etc, but I wouldn't call it 'the origin story' in the same way Uncle Ben and the Waynes are very much why Peter and Bruce become superheroes.

Honestly. Flash and Batman are the only ones with tragedies in the JL.. Although Flash doesn't become good only because of the incident, he does want to seek justice and become vigilante due to that incident. That incident is what fuels him to become a forensic scientist.

everyone else is inherently good.. Superman never really had a tragedy that fuels him to become a hero because he already is a good person due to the way pa & ma kent raised him.

 

[BMCAABY]

Cold, Kadabra, or Mirror Master would all be good choices for the first films villain. It probably will be Thawne though.

Abra Kadabra is a little too much for a Flash film. I would prefer if they never even use him. Eobard is the way to go!

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Honestly. Flash and Batman are the only ones with tragedies in the JL.. Although Flash doesn't become good only because of the incident, he does want to seek justice and become vigilante due to that incident. That incident is what fuels him to become a forensic scientist.

everyone else is inherently good.. Superman never really had a tragedy that fuels him to become a hero because he already is a good person due to the way pa & ma kent raised him.

It's not that incident that sets him on the path to seeking justice though, even in the timeline where his mother lives he's still a forensic scientist, and still becomes the Flash. Barry's mother being murdered is still a relatively recent change to the character's history compared to how long the Flash has been around. The murder of Barry's mother isn't the cause of the feud between Allen and Thawne, it's a result of it.

 

[The Shape]

The Big Bad has gotta be Thawne/Reverse Flash in this first solo film.

Can't wait to see what they do with him.

 

[Lencho01]

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/05/11/we-know-the-villain-of-justice-league

The other DC solo movies between Justice League and Justice League 2 take place in realish time - ie, The Flash takes place after Justice League

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/05/11/zack-stentz-is-writing-a-booster-gold-movie

While The Flash lost director Seth Grahame-Smith WB is sticking with his script (for now, there will be rewrites as there always are rewrites), and that script is lighter and poppier, focusing on the friendship of The Flash and Cyborg, who hit it off in Justice League.

 

[Tg11]

Or they can go with Captain Boomerang

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Or they can go with Captain Boomerang

Boomer just wouldn't work as the main antagonist of a movie.
Not without being inconsistent with Flash's powers like in the show.which is something I really hope they avoid.

I'd love to see him show up in the movie though.

Its gotta be reverse flash.
I loved what they did with him in the show, but I think they could do something different and even better with him in a movie.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Or they can go with Captain Boomerang

Boomerang isn't even remotely close to being a good choice for the primary villain in a Flash movie. He's not a smart enough, or powerful enough villain for the part, he's best used as a part of Cold's team, or on the SS, not as a solo act or even team leader. They should be looking at villains like Cold, Reverse Flash, Mirror Master, etc. villains that can actually give Flash a run for his money. I'm betting it's almost certainly gonna be Reverse Flash or Captain Cold as the primary foe.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Not sure if they should go with Thawne right off the bat. He's another villain with the same powers as the hero, plus it's right after the show delivered their great version of him. Mirror Master or Captain Cold or even a Rogues teamup would be ideal.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Not sure if they should go with Thawne right off the bat. He's another villain with the same powers as the hero, plus it's right after the show delivered their great version of him. Mirror Master or Captain Cold or even a Rogues teamup would be ideal.

Well, to be fair, when the movie comes out, the show will be on season 4, so it will have been a little while. But I do agree, Thawne should be saved for later, hint at him, and show signs of his presence, but save him for the sequel. Cold and his team could easily carry a first film.

 

[Boy Scout]

I'm not opposed to the idea, but I feel like, in order to properly develop the Rogues and flesh out their characterizations and motivations, they'd need to be either leads or supporting characters. I don't have an issue with that, but that would take time away from Barry's actual supporting cast (Iris, Captain Singh, etc.).

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I'm not opposed to the idea, but I feel like, in order to properly develop the Rogues and flesh out their characterizations and motivations, they'd need to be either leads or supporting characters. I don't have an issue with that, but that would take time away from Barry's actual supporting cast (Iris, Captain Singh, etc.).

This is actually another reason why I support the idea, it would encourage them to keep Barry's supporting cast smaller and would help to differentiate it from the show.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I think I'd just prefer the supporting cast to be the Rogues.

And the Reverse Flash as the antagonist.

 

[Tg11]

Mirror Master or Captain Cold would actually be a great villain to start off The Flash franchise assuming it spawns off into its own standalone franchise then yeah either Mirror Master or Captain Cold should be the first villain to start off with but Reverse Flash I would save him for a sequel

 

[BMCAABY]

Not sure if they should go with Thawne right off the bat. He's another villain with the same powers as the hero, plus it's right after the show delivered their great version of him. Mirror Master or Captain Cold or even a Rogues teamup would be ideal.

Honestly the show's version was pretty over-rated

 

[BMCAABY]

HOPEFULLY they go with this title design for the posters and promotional stuff.

 

[UltimateMarvel]

Maybe they'll do like BvS marketing and use a cleaner and brighter version of this logo:

 

[BMCAABY]

Maybe they'll do like BvS marketing and use a cleaner and brighter version of this logo:

I don't think those were official logo reveals for the solo movies.
Those were just made for the presentation.
The Flash movie will have a different logo..
Hopefully we get an announcement soon of who will be the director so we can guess and understand what they will go with for everything..

 

[BMCAABY]

This is cool.