The Official FLASHPOINT Film (2020) News And Speculation Thread

[2kt09]

If they use Flashpoint to change Ben Affleck into Jake Gyllenhaal, it will be one of the most gloriously stupid things to ever happen on a cinema screen.

I’m torn over it. On the one hand, this whole thing just sounds like a confusing, awful idea that will baffle the casual audience. On the other... imagine how much fun it’ll be to watch the fallout if they did make it.

And on the actual other hand, welcome to the world of movies based on comics.

 

[Black Narcissus]

And on the actual other hand, welcome to the world of movies based on comics.

Lawd.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Just because it's called Flashpoint does not make it an exact copy of Flashpoint.

These writers/directors are none for humorous stuff. I think it's more likely we will see barry go back several times to correct things.

For all we know one of the times will be the BvS doomsday future.

It will be oh my god what have i done know stuff.

I do think it will replace Afleck though.

I’m hoping that this will turn out as “Flashpoint” in name only.
And I’m saying that as someone who loves flashpoint and really wanted to see it as a movie. As faithful to the source as possible.

But with the way things are?
Flashpoint reeeeallly isn’t the story to do.

I say make it about Barry going back in time to save his mother and having that alter the future in some big ways.
But keep other heroes out of it.

That’s if it absolutely has to be some version of flashpoint.
I’d rather have something else entirely.

Gimme Gorilla Grodd or the rogues

 

[MbJ]

If they use Flashpoint to change Ben Affleck into Jake Gyllenhaal, it will be one of the most gloriously stupid things to ever happen on a cinema screen.

We gotta get Ben's last line to be "I don't want to go..."

...And then boom, Gyllenhaal.

 

[Micromind]

If they use Flashpoint to change Ben Affleck into Jake Gyllenhaal, it will be one of the most gloriously stupid things to ever happen on a cinema screen.

I’m torn over it. On the one hand, this whole thing just sounds like a confusing, awful idea that will baffle the casual audience. On the other... imagine how much fun it’ll be to watch the fallout if they did make it.

How fun was the fallout when Marvel changed Edward Norton into Mark Ruffalo ? How many people were baffled ? Was that Marvel's idea awful ?

 

[Axl Van Sixx]

^The difference, of course, is that Marvel didn't make an entire movie to explain why Edward Norton is now Mark Ruffalo.

Seriously, if they're going to recast Batman with Gyllenhaal instead of Affleck, they should just recast and be done with it. If they're actually going to make Flashpoint as a way of rebooting, they're just wasting everyone's time. The DCEU is not established enough for audiences to be invested in an Elseworlds-style alternative universe at this point.

 

[Aximili86]

Norton to Ruffalo is exactly the way to do this.

Whedon wasn't tied down by what Letterier had done, he mixed up the design and the Bruce characterization and general tone, but it was done in a way that if, hey, you liked The Incredible Hulk it's not totally stricken from the record either.

They just sort of move forward without canning what came before, and if some director down the line wants to reference The Incredible Hulk they can, if not they're hardly bound to do so.

Exactly how you go about the Batman thing. Give Reeves all the freedom in the world to do as he wants, change things up, have a different take on Bruce & Bats and the world, but just don't even acknowledge it on screen at all - don't do the Flashpoint change-up thing, it's not necessary. Just a change-up, maybe a smartass line of dialogue acknowledging it like they did with Rhodey in Iron Man 2, and be done with it. It's the Reeves & Gyllenhaal show now, we don't even bother explaining the change-up, but also not go out of our way to ****-can what came before.

Best of both worlds. Us who don't like the Snyder/Affleck take can pretend it never happened, those who do like it can just Keaton-to-Kilmer/Norton-to-Ruffalo the damn thing.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

Just a change-up, maybe a smartass line of dialogue acknowledging it like they did with Rhodey in Iron Man 2, and be done with it.

What was the line in Iron Man 2? I don't remember.

 

[MbJ]

What was the line in Iron Man 2? I don't remember.

When Rhodey first appears onscreen in Iron Man 2, Tony is visibly surprised and Rhodey says "Look, I'm here now. Just deal with it."

^The difference, of course, is that Marvel didn't make an entire movie to explain why Edward Norton is now Mark Ruffalo.

Seriously, if they're going to recast Batman with Gyllenhaal instead of Affleck, they should just recast and be done with it. If they're actually going to make Flashpoint as a way of rebooting, they're just wasting everyone's time. The DCEU is not established enough for audiences to be invested in an Elseworlds-style alternative universe at this point.

Which is why the apparent desire to use Flashpoint to reboot Batman is so weird. We already saw WB pull a soft reboot of sorts with Justice League, where they ignored or flat out retconned many things that happened in Batman v. Superman. It would make sense to just continue doing that going forward; pretending Man of Steel and Batman v. Superman didn't happen, especially if they get a new actor to play Batman as rumored. You don't need to have a whole subplot in the Flash's movie explaining why Ben Affleck was deaged into Jake Gyllenhaal.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

When Rhodey first appears onscreen in Iron Man 2, Tony is visibly surprised and Rhodey says "Look, I'm here now. Just deal with it."

Ah, okay, Thanks.

 

[Boy Scout]

If they use Flashpoint to change Ben Affleck into Jake Gyllenhaal, it will be one of the most gloriously stupid things to ever happen on a cinema screen.

I’m torn over it. On the one hand, this whole thing just sounds like a confusing, awful idea that will baffle the casual audience. On the other... imagine how much fun it’ll be to watch the fallout if they did make it.

Yeah, it should be a clean recast. **** a “graceful exit.”

Someone else already suggested pulling an IM2 and using some smart ass dialogue to acknowledge the change (if it has to be acknowledged at all), and I think that's the right way to go.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

I don’t care how they do it.
Just get Affleck the **** outta there and make something good.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

I don’t care how they do it.
Just get Affleck the **** outta there and make something good.

I like Affleck's version of Batman (contrary to all expectations) but even I'm getting tired of this 'is he-isn't he' circus. In some ways I'd be relieved if they recast. Not really seeing Gyllenhaal as Batman though.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

I like Affleck's version of Batman (contrary to all expectations) but even I'm getting tired of this 'is he-isn't he' circus. In some ways I'd be relieved if they recast. Not really seeing Gyllenhaal as Batman though.

I liked him in BvS and was looking forward to more of him as Batman.
But he just doesn’t care about the part. He seemed so bored through JL.
Last thing I want is more of that.
Get someone that’s excited to be Batman.
Shouldn’t be hard

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

Ha, true!

 

[Axl Van Sixx]

Norton to Ruffalo is exactly the way to do this.

Whedon wasn't tied down by what Letterier had done, he mixed up the design and the Bruce characterization and general tone, but it was done in a way that if, hey, you liked The Incredible Hulk it's not totally stricken from the record either.

They just sort of move forward without canning what came before, and if some director down the line wants to reference The Incredible Hulk they can, if not they're hardly bound to do so.

Exactly how you go about the Batman thing. Give Reeves all the freedom in the world to do as he wants, change things up, have a different take on Bruce & Bats and the world, but just don't even acknowledge it on screen at all - don't do the Flashpoint change-up thing, it's not necessary. Just a change-up, maybe a smartass line of dialogue acknowledging it like they did with Rhodey in Iron Man 2, and be done with it. It's the Reeves & Gyllenhaal show now, we don't even bother explaining the change-up, but also not go out of our way to ****-can what came before.

Best of both worlds. Us who don't like the Snyder/Affleck take can pretend it never happened, those who do like it can just Keaton-to-Kilmer/Norton-to-Ruffalo the damn thing.

I like Affleck's version of Batman (contrary to all expectations) but even I'm getting tired of this 'is he-isn't he' circus. In some ways I'd be relieved if they recast. Not really seeing Gyllenhaal as Batman though.

I liked him in BvS and was looking forward to more of him as Batman.
But he just doesn’t care about the part. He seemed so bored through JL.
Last thing I want is more of that.
Get someone that’s excited to be Batman.
Shouldn’t be hard

Couldn't agree more. Affleck knew what he was getting into when he signed up to play Batman in a cinematic universe. I can't blame him for being frustrated with the reception of the DCEU, which I'm sure must feel like the Daredevil situation all over again. But if he's going to leave, he shouldn't drag it out.

One way or another, I anticipate we might get a resolution to the Batman casting drama after the Blu-Ray release of Justice League.

 

[MbJ]

Justin Kroll revealed some more details on Meet The Movie Press. He says the tone WB is going for is the very first Iron Man; funny and fun, but with dark and serious moments when needed. He also claims Bruce Wayne does not have a huge role in the story, which is why Ben was looked at to direct.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Justin Kroll revealed some more details on Meet The Movie Press. He says the tone WB is going for is the very first Iron Man; funny and fun, but with dark and serious moments when needed. He also claims Bruce Wayne does not have a huge role in the story, which is why Ben was looked at to direct.

Funny and fun?
Sounds nothing like flashpoint.

GOOD

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

He also claims Bruce Wayne does not have a huge role in the story, which is why Ben was looked at to direct.

Well that's certainly true of the original FP story so it makes sense.

 

[Greenlite]

Justin Kroll revealed some more details on Meet The Movie Press. He says the tone WB is going for is the very first Iron Man; funny and fun, but with dark and serious moments when needed. He also claims Bruce Wayne does not have a huge role in the story, which is why Ben was looked at to direct.

Iron Man was a smash hit so hopefully they hit a balance there, and have a better 3rd act than that film lol.

Should have hired the Iron Man scribes then

 

[MbJ]

A short interview with the directors.

“They gave us a list of DC properties and said, ‘Is there anything you’d be interested in?’, in no way promising us anything at all.”
Goldstein adds that it was their experience with Warner Bros. on Game Night and what they did with Spider-Man: Homecoming that led the studio to consider them for one of its major superhero properties:

“They were interested in us because of Game Night and Spider-Man. Because of that combination they did kind of say, ‘We’d like you to consider one of our movies.’ So we read a number of the scripts, and that was one—we’re huge fans of the character, I collected the comic books as a kid. It was an exciting possibility.”

Daley adds that what also drew them to Flash was his general unrefined quality when it comes to being a superhero:

“Just the fact that the character is unique from other superheroes in that he doesn’t completely have his **** together like Superman does. It’s more of a ground-level superhero.”

Goldstein said that this approach—crafting a story in which the lead in your superhero movie is incredibly relatable—is what Flashpoint and Homecoming have in common:

“It’s a relatable way in to a superhero movie in some of the same ways that Peter Parker was for the Marvel side of things.”

 

[mclay18]

It seems like WB wants to get cracking on Flashpoint since they have a script they like before taking it out to directors. And it seems as though Daley & Goldstein are on the right wavelength with the studio as well.

But will they stay if Game Night flops?

 

[Greenlite]

apparently zemeckis was interested in doing the flashpoint film after the end of 2018, but now they've given it to Sweet and the other guy.

You guys think they're actually making a solo Flash film now, and make Flashpoint with Zemeckis as a sequel (maybe after JL vs IJL I hope)? that makes way more sense than hiring a comedian pair for flashpoint while zemeckis get sidelined...

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

apparently zemeckis was interested in doing the flashpoint film after the end of 2018, but now they've given it to Sweet and the other guy.

You guys think they're actually making a solo Flash film now, and make Flashpoint with Zemeckis as a sequel (maybe after JL vs IJL I hope)? that makes way more sense than hiring a comedian pair for flashpoint while zemeckis get sidelined...

I'd rather that. I know opinion is pretty divided now on whether a Flashpoint movie is a good idea, but if they do it I don't want it in a lighter vein than the source material (or the animated movie, which I love).

 

[Greenlite]

THR might have changed Flashpoint to "the Flash film" in their article

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dc-films-taps-chantal-nong-key-production-role-1086317

Insiders say the next wave will likely include the Flash film and Batgirl, among others.