The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[Spiderine]

Having Spidey as a guest star or cameo in a film about his villains would only piss the audience off because you're teasing them with the character they actually want to see be involved.......that's Spiderman.

It's a pathetic poorly conceived idea and will further take this franchise on a collision course with the Schumacher films. Didn't y'all just see the piss poor effort with Electro? And what kind of sympathetic angle will they spin with Rhino for cry in out loud? Jeezz.......

 

[Eddie]

Having Spidey as a guest star or cameo in a film about his villains would only piss the audience off because you're teasing them with the character they actually want to see be involved.......that's Spiderman.

It's a pathetic poorly conceived idea and will further take this franchise on a collision course with the Schumacher films. Didn't y'all just see the piss poor effort with Electro? And what kind of sympathetic angle will they spin with Rhino for cry in out loud? Jeezz.......

Aleksei: All I am wanting is for to shoot things and steal things! Why is nobody loving me?

 

[Visualiza]

Actually, Sinister Six movie has something called as "novelty factor" working for it, it would surely generate some interest and if it has Spidey as guest star in it then it would make more money.

Does it really? How far-reaching would that novelty factor be?

I'm not optimistic about it at all, but in all fairness, this is something we really more information on before we can even give any sort of meaningful speculation on.

We're all jumping the gun right now.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Actually, Sinister Six movie has something called as "novelty factor" working for it, it would surely generate some interest and if it has Spidey as guest star in it then it would make more money.

Half of the team would be from past movies.

I can already hear the moans in the theater when the trailer shows Dr Ock, Rhino and Green Goblin.

Then they realize Spider-man is barely in it?

Tomatoes will fly at the screen.

 

[Visualiza]

Half of the team would be from past movies.

I can already hear the moans in the theater when the trailer shows Dr Ock, Rhino and Green Goblin.

Then they realize Spider-man is barely in it?

Tomatoes will fly at the screen.

And this is exactly what I'm afraid of.

The only thing I could imagine being remotely compelling, and let me preface this by saying it's a monumental shot in the dark (as in it doesn't interest me in the least if Spider-Man isn't involved), is if it were some sort of heist flick or caper. That way, they could at least maintain their villainous ways and still be palatable. Egos would flare, betrayals would almost certainly occur, and there would at least be some semblance of tension and high stakes.

...I still wouldn't buy a ticket to see that.

 

[Micromind]

Who wants a Sinister Six without Spider-Man, what I'm saying is he will have less screen-time than his solo movies.... will it be successful ?


I'm not 100 % sure.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

What is the appeal of Sinister Six outside of being a massive threat to Spider-Man? Take that away and what is supposed to be the appeal?

Nail on the head.

The Sinister Six are appealing because you can't wait to see how Spider-man will beat them.

Nobody wants to root for them and watch them battle people outside of Spider-man.

 

[Marvin]

Nail on the head.

The Sinister Six are appealing because you can't wait to see how Spider-man will beat them.

Nobody wants to root for them and watch them battle people outside of Spider-man.

Yes I get it, no one want to see a movie about Ivan Drago that ends in anything but him punching Rocky. Kinda par for the course given the depth applied to the character.

The appeal of interesting characters should be that they are interesting characters. This isn't WWF(or E) where the appeal of characters lies in the fact that they will beat a certain person up or at least try to.

Next people will be saying the only way anyone will pay to watch a magneto film is if it ends or includes him fighting wolverine and xavier and iceman and scott sum...Xmen.

 

[Eddie]

Yes I get it, no one want to see a movie about Ivan Drago that ends in anything but him punching Rocky. Kinda par for the course given the depth applied to the character.

The appeal of interesting characters should be that they are interesting characters. This isn't WWF(or E) where the appeal of characters lies in the fact that they will beat a certain person up or at least try to.

Next people will be saying the only way anyone will pay to watch a magneto film is if it ends or includes him fighting wolverine and xavier and iceman and scott sum...Xmen.

Terrible example. Fox themselves decided their planned Magneto film wasn't working and it got integrated into an X-Men prequel.

 

[bullets]

Speaking of which , I'm glad that Magneto solo film never happened. What the hell were they thinking. I want stories about heroes. I'm tired of them trying to make the villains sympathetic and overshadowing the hero.

 

[Marvin]

Terrible example. Fox themselves decided their planned Magneto film wasn't working and it got integrated into an X-Men prequel.

We can't say with any certainty why. Could have had something to do with the performance of the other origin film for example, could have been development issues(not like they had a young attractive tested lead lined up or anything).

The point however wasn't about why they made the film(seeing as they didn't), it was about why anyone thinks it wouldn't work on premise alone. For example, do you think there is a film to be made with Fassbender running around without involving the Xmen/Xavier or do you think that wouldn't work?

 

[Eddie]

A Magneto standalone likely wouldn't get the level of buzz a team film could. Even Wolverine's last solo didn't generate as much interest as the team films do. A Magneto film could be great creatively (really, he's more of an anti-hero than a completely evil villain), but it probably wouldn't be a huge earner unless the budget was kept in check.

 

[Marvin]

A Magneto standalone likely wouldn't get the level of buzz a team film could. Even Wolverine's last solo didn't generate as much interest as the team films do. A Magneto film could be great creatively (really, he's more of an anti-hero than a completely evil villain), but it probably wouldn't be a huge earner unless the budget was kept in check.

Fortunately my question was more about if it could work, as for if it would be relevant and such, that's where the immediate novelty lead in, marvel studio schtick comes into play.

We'll see how it goes for Guardians.

 

[spiderman2]

Man its sad how spidy has fall. Before the year I thought this would be a top 5 ww box offices movie this year and maybe even 3 and now it looks like both xmen and captian America could end up making more ww then this. The futcher is not looking good. Does any one think that ASM3 could end up making less then 200 million in the USA when it comes out in a few years?

 

[enterthemadness]

Spider-man movies always drop in North America.

SM2 dropped from SM1.

SM3 dropped.

ASM dropped.

ASM2 dropped.

Yes, but all 3 of the original trilogy did over $300M. With the lowest one, Spidy 3, at $336.5M Domestic.


The ASM series reboot has already topped out at $262M Domestic being it's ceiling....or likely it's ceiling. That's not good, and makes this reboot unwarranted.

At this rate, ASM3 would be lucky to break $200M domestic, if ASM2 ends in the 230 range.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Yes, but all 3 of the original trilogy did over $300M. With the lowest one, Spidy 3, at $336.5M Domestic.


The ASM series reboot has already topped out at $262M Domestic being it's ceiling....or likely it's ceiling. That's not good, and makes this reboot unwarranted.

At this rate, ASM3 would be lucky to break $200M domestic, if ASM2 ends in the 230 range.

But SM4 wasn't guaranteed to make over 300 m either.

Look at POTC4.

 

[TheVileOne]

http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3837&p=.htm

Box Office Mojo has a great story on the box office fatigue for the franchise.

 

[Serpico Jones]

It will be a miracle if Sinister Six is actually made. ASM2's box office is going to cause some talks to go on at Sony.

The only way that movie doesn't get made is if ASM 2 is a complete financial disaster.

 

[enterthemadness]

But SM4 wasn't guaranteed to make over 300 m either.

Look at POTC4.

I think SM4 bottom would had been $280 Domestic. And maybe $300-310M. If it was much better than SM3.



Oh, and if SONY were to sell Spidy rights to Disyney/Marvel, well, I am sure Toby or Andrew ain't playing Spidy......

 

[Superhero 101]

If they do sell rights to Disney/marvel I really hope they keep Garfield

 

[Marvin]

Oh, and if SONY were to sell Spidy rights to Disyney/Marvel, well, I am sure Toby or Andrew ain't playing Spidy......

Sell the rights?
Expectations aside, people are acting like these property has become less viable than Thor/Hulk/GoG..etc.

 

[Stark Bauer]

It will be a miracle if Sinister Six is actually made. ASM2's box office is going to cause some talks to go on at Sony.

This is the age of miracles chaseter, and there is nothing more horrifying than a miracle.

 

[enterthemadness]

If they do sell rights to Disney/marvel I really hope they keep Garfield

I can't imagine it going over well that if Disney ever gets the rights, that gee, another reboot has to happen due to fact that they go with a different actor.



Even though clearly this Spidy takes places in a different universe than Marvel, considering, no mention of mass destruction/aliens/gods/etc are in ASM I am assuming...although I guess you could retcon ASM taking place BEFORE Marvel films...

 

[Serpico Jones]

If they do sell rights to Disney/marvel I really hope they keep Garfield

That's not going to happen. Disney isn't getting the rights back anytime soon.

 

[Serpico Jones]

Sony is going to hold on to this franchise until they are certain the company is going belly-up.