The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 4

[thomass]

It isn't because there are too many Spider-Man movies though. It is because there are too many bad Spider-Man movies.

Harry Potter had eight in that span and never experienced fatigue. Iron Man is about to have his fifth in seven years next year and people still want to see it.

Also look at Batman and X-Men. In both cases they started off well. Then they started making bad movies (Shumacher Bat films, Last Stand & Origins) and people left. Then they started making good movies again and people came back. This is not coincidence.

The 'fatigue' is entirely quality related.

Fatigue has never been entirely quality related. Whether its a sports person who becomes burnt out playing to much of the game they love. Or a desert you're sick of even if it might be your favorite.

You can have to much of a good thing. When so many films are put out in a short space of time they lose there impact. There were 8 years between Nolan series and the one before.

In North America it may make sense but ASM2 seems to have had a decent reception in most places. I'm interested to know the reasons for the discrepancy tbh.

 

[kguillou]

It isn't because there are too many Spider-Man movies though. It is because there are too many bad Spider-Man movies.

Harry Potter had eight in that span and never experienced fatigue. Iron Man is about to have his fifth in seven years next year and people still want to see it.

Also look at Batman and X-Men. In both cases they started off well. Then they started making bad movies (Shumacher Bat films, Last Stand & Origins) and people left. Then they started making good movies again and people came back. This is not coincidence.

The 'fatigue' is entirely quality related.

I gotta say with the X-men franchise in particular it really is fascinating what they've done. Most franchises reboot after they grow stale but First Class and The Wolverine managed to reinvigorate the franchise while keeping the continuity intact (more or less). I gotta commend FOX for not giving up on it and taking the easy way out by rebooting and starting over.

 

[Erzengel]

I gotta say with the Wolverine franchise in particular it really is fascinating what they've done. Most franchises reboot after they grow stale but First Class and The Wolverine managed to reinvigorate the franchise while keeping the continuity intact (more or less). I gotta commend FOX for not giving up on it and taking the easy way out by rebooting and starting over.

Fixed.

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

In North America it may make sense but ASM2 seems to have had a decent reception in most places. I'm interested to know the reasons for the discrepancy tbh.

The overseas numbers aren't as impressive as they, at first, seemed they would be.

From TalismanRing:

OS Weekends from top 12 markets (# w/e)

ASM1 (2012) / ASM2 (2014)

Australia: 17.9 / 14.5 (5)
Brazil: 24.2 / 22.0 (3)
China: 48.8 / 80.9 (2)
France: 17.9 / 20.4 (3)
Germany: 17.6 / 15.6 (5)
Italy: 12.6 / 12.7 (4)
Japan: 32.9 / 25.3 (4)
Mexico: 28.2 / 27.9 (5)
Russia – CIS: 21.6 / 20.7 (4)
South Korea: 35.4 / 33.6 (4)
Spain: 10.9 / 8.3 (5)
United Kingdom: 39.0 / 38.9 (5)
O/S Total: 307.0 / 320.8

When you take into account ASM opened the same week as TDKR in China...

 

[kguillou]

Haha I see what you did there.

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

Haha I see what you did there.

I hate when I repeat what I've already said.

 

[The Joker]

I gotta say with the X-men franchise in particular it really is fascinating what they've done. Most franchises reboot after they grow stale but First Class and The Wolverine managed to reinvigorate the franchise while keeping the continuity intact (more or less). I gotta commend FOX for not giving up on it and taking the easy way out by rebooting and starting over.

You ain't seen nothing yet. I've just come back from Days Of Future Past, and in my opinion it's the best comic book movie since The Dark Knight. It was awesome. I can't wait to see it again.

 

[thomass]

The overseas numbers aren't as impressive as they, at first, seemed they would be.

I didn't say they were impressive although they reflect the ok reception it got. It was savaged in N. America.

 

[Micromind]

You ain't seen nothing yet. I've just come back from Days Of Future Past, and in my opinion it's the best comic book movie since The Dark Knight. It was awesome. I can't wait to see it again.

That's a high praise right there.

 

[JOE]

You ain't seen nothing yet. I've just come back from Days Of Future Past, and in my opinion it's the best comic book movie since The Dark Knight. It was awesome. I can't wait to see it again.

How would you rate it out of 10? On that note, what do you rate these movies out of 10 so I have something to compare it to?

The Dark Knight
Iron-Man
Spider-Man 2
The Avengers

 

[The Joker]

How would you rate it out of 10?

10/10. No question.

On that note, what do you rate these movies out of 10 so I have something to compare it to?

The Dark Knight
Iron-Man
Spider-Man 2
The Avengers

TDK - 10/10
Iron Man - 9/10
Spider-Man 2 - 9.5/10
The Avengers - 8.5/10

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

I didn't say they were impressive although they reflect the ok reception it got. It was savaged in N. America.

If you exclude China, where ASM had the nightmare scheduling, ASM2 is making less overseas than ASM. It may not be as extreme as what's happening in the U.S., but it's still disappointing.

 

[JOE]

10/10. No question.



TDK - 10/10
Iron Man - 9/10
Spider-Man 2 - 9.5/10
The Avengers - 8.5/10

Wow... Thanks Joker!

Although I've never understood people giving movies 10/10 ratings. I've never been able to watch a movie and say it was absolutely perfect and there's nothing I would have changed. Unless there isn't anything you'd ever want to change, in either case I'm glad you loved it. Really looking forward to it now.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

10/10. No question.



TDK - 10/10
Iron Man - 9/10
Spider-Man 2 - 9.5/10
The Avengers - 8.5/10

How would you rate First Class? Since I loved that one.

 

[The Joker]

Wow... Thanks Joker!

Although I've never understood people giving movies 10/10 ratings. I've never been able to watch a movie and say it was absolutely perfect and there's nothing I would have changed. Unless there isn't anything you'd ever want to change, in either case I'm glad you loved it. Really looking forward to it now.

There's no such thing as a perfect movie I don't think, but there's such a thing as enjoying a movie so much that it's as close to perfection as you can get. They're the ones I rate 10/10.

I came out of DOFP and the first thing I thought was I want to see that again right now. I haven't felt like that for a comic book movie since TDK. And we've had some darn fine CBM's since then like Avengers and Cap 2. But DOFP was even better than them, IMO.

How would you rate First Class? Since I loved that one.

9/10. Loved it, too.

 

[Iceman]

You ain't seen nothing yet. I've just come back from Days Of Future Past, and in my opinion it's the best comic book movie since The Dark Knight. It was awesome. I can't wait to see it again.

10/10. No question.



TDK - 10/10
Iron Man - 9/10
Spider-Man 2 - 9.5/10
The Avengers - 8.5/10

Wow! The Joker has spoken. Can't wait to see it. Leaving in about 40 minutes.

 

[Mace Dolex]

It's sad that The Avengers made more in it's OW than Spidey will make in it's entire Domestic run.

Yeah while I'm happy that Marvel is having great success with characters that were once considered B-list like Iron Man and Cap, to me as a kid I always viewed Spider-Man as Marvel's mascot just like Bugs Bunny as to Warner Bros.

But we shouldn't lose faith Spider-Man has been through slumps before (the 1970's series), and kids all over the world recognize him and there will many more SM movies long after we're all gone and the internet is nothing but a memory.

 

[JOE]

It's not Spider-Man I'm losing faith in, it's the direction Sony is dragging him...

 

[Oscorp]

You ain't seen nothing yet. I've just come back from Days Of Future Past, and in my opinion it's the best comic book movie since The Dark Knight. It was awesome. I can't wait to see it again.

Have you written a Review of it? I'd love to read it sometime. It excites me a lot to hear this. I love First Class and I love The Wolverine even more so I Think Fox is heading in a great direction when it comes to X-Men right now.

 

[The Joker]

Have you written a Review of it? I'd love to read it sometime. It excites me a lot to hear this. I love First Class and I love The Wolverine even more so I Think Fox is heading in a great direction when it comes to X-Men right now.

I just wrote a mini review as I'm not long home from seeing it and went straight there after work so I'm a bit tired to write a full review right now: http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=28855787&postcount=185

If you love First Class and The Wolverine, then you will be blown away by DOFP. Singer takes the best things from FC and X-2 and combines them into DOFP.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Is there any superhero franchise that hasn't dipped in quality by the 4th or 5th movie?

It's the 4th/5th movie curse.

 

[Oscorp]

I just wrote a mini review as I'm not long home from seeing it and went straight there after work so I'm a bit tired to write a full review right now: http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=28855787&postcount=185

If you love First Class and The Wolverine, then you will be blown away by DOFP. Singer takes the best things from FC and X-2 and combines them into DOFP.

I just read it. Awesome to hear how great this is not only according to you, but to many other SHH members as well!

It's funny to me how Singer seems to bring out his absolute best when working on X-Men films. Other than X-Men 2 (and the first one to some extent), I've Heard that most of his films are pretty bad. Shows how passionate he is about X-Men!

 

[hippie_hunter]

I never saw Jack the Giant Killer because it looked rather dull and boring, but the Singer films I have watched are pretty damn great. Anyone who says that he's a bad director doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.

 

[Oscorp]

I never saw Jack the Giant Killer because it looked rather dull and boring, but the Singer films I have watched are pretty damn great. Anyone who says that he's a bad director doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.

I have only seen his X-Men films so I have no idea myself, just what I've read sometimes.

Any film you would recommend?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I have only seen his X-Men films so I have no idea myself, just what I've read sometimes.

Any film you would recommend?

I know this wasn't directed at me but...

USUAL SUSPECTS