The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 5

[DarthSkywalker]

BvS isn't a lock for a billion. Does it have a chance? Yes. Does it have a good chance? By calling in the subs with Batman, I'd say so. As long as Snyder doesn't royally screw it up Is it a lock? Definitely not.

Like chaseter said, AoU is the only movie within the next couple years that's a lock for 1B....

AoU, BvS, Avatar 2, Episode VII and Finding Dory are locks. Or as close to locks as you can get imo. Avatar 2 is the "biggest" lock.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Episode VII is 2015, not 2016.

 

[spider-neil]

AoU, BvS, Avatar 2, Episode VII and Finding Dory are locks. Or as close to locks as you can get imo. Avatar 2 is the "biggest" lock.

Avatar 2 - Lock
I think Avatar incredibly has a shot of breaking the all time record again as there are more 3D theaters and I think the majority of people will watch the movie in 3D as they will remember the experience of watching Avatar in 3D, which imho is STILL the best 3D movie ever.

AoU - Lock

BvS - Lock

Episode VII - hmm...
After 3 disastrous movies in a row. I dunno...

Finding Dory - hmm...
Finding Nemo did big numbers. I don't know the sequel will bring in the masses but if Frozen can do a billion no reason FD can't.
I'm hoping Train your Dragon crosses a billion although that is unlikely.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Maybe you will be correct but I just can't think that because I've seen plenty of fans say such and such movie is a lock do this and that film doesn't do it. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 fans were sure it was going to do 900mil, the Thor: The Dark World fans were sure it was going to do about 900mil as well. The Man of Stee fans got overly excited as well with their predictions. There has been a lot of over zealous predictions for comicbook films by fans and studio people alike and a billion is not easy to obtain so I'm unwilling to say BvS is a lock to make a billion.

To be fair though, Warner Bros. and other studios believed that Man of Steel was going to be a $1 billion hit and Sony was aiming for $1 billion with Amazing Spider-Man 2. I can't blame the fans when even the studios were aiming a bit too high. Disney was probably the only realistic studio with their expectations for Thor: The Dark World.

 

[JOE]

AoU, BvS, Avatar 2, Episode VII and Finding Dory are locks. Or as close to locks as you can get imo. Avatar 2 is the "biggest" lock.

Find Dory? Really? Finding Nemo didn't even make 1B and it's going to be really hard to make a better movie than that. Especially with the exact same premise...

BvS I cannot agree with... High 800's I'd say would be a lock, anything more is very optimistic to me. Unless the trailers come out and it looks like the second coming of Christ.

SW7 possibly just because how big the franchise is and what J.J can bring to the table. Although he did a fantastic job with Star Trek and look how that worked out in the B.O... Star Wars sells though, just look at E1-3, garbage and they made money.

Avatar 2 is tricky. The first one a once in a lifetime thing for the box office, IMO. 3D was just starting to become popular, and this movie was one of the best IMAX 3D experiences of all time. With how common IMAX and 3D have become, I doubt the second movie will have the same revolutionary feeling the first had... But it's definitely a strong contender. I think Avatar was a one hit wonder, they won't be able to replicate the feeling the first one gave people.

 

[Morbius]

I'm amazed at how much money these movies have been making - especially since i'm a movie lover myself and with rising ticket prices for cinemas over the last few years, people like me who live and breathe film are more inclined to download movies rather than buy them at face value - where cinemas are concerned, I'd say I go about once a month, if at all. It's just so expensive!

 

[spider-neil]

I'm amazed at how much money these movies have been making - especially since i'm a movie lover myself and with rising ticket prices for cinemas over the last few years, people like me who live and breathe film are more inclined to download movies rather than buy them at face value - where cinemas are concerned, I'd say I go about once a month, if at all. It's just so expensive!

It's too expensive. Everyone is having fun except dad who has to pay for the tickets and the popcorn.
Incredible that you are getting massive BO in the advent of home theater and pirate download.

 

[Morbius]

My thoughts exactly - gone are the days when big bucks could be made from video sales etc I've seen two separate leading DVD stores in my city close down, and i'm guessing piracy is a prime suspect

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think it is more everyone buys their DVDs from Amazon, Wal Mart, Target, etc. As opposed to DVD stores because DVD stores tend to be more expensive. That is why shops go out of business.

 

[Erzengel]

Episode VII - hmm...
After 3 disastrous movies in a row. I dunno...

You can debate the quality, but the prequels brought in over 2.4 billion combined world wide and that was almost a decade since the last one came out.

 

[Arach Knight]

I'm amazed at how much money these movies have been making - especially since i'm a movie lover myself and with rising ticket prices for cinemas over the last few years, people like me who live and breathe film are more inclined to download movies rather than buy them at face value - where cinemas are concerned, I'd say I go about once a month, if at all. It's just so expensive!

Look around your area. In my county (county, not country), there are places where movie tickets are as high as $14, and other places where they are as low as $6. I tend to go to a Regal Cinemas theatre in which the price is $6.50 before 5pm and $7.50 after. And this is a first run theatre.

 

[spider-neil]

I think it is more everyone buys their DVDs from Amazon, Wal Mart, Target, etc. As opposed to DVD stores because DVD stores tend to be more expensive. That is why shops go out of business.

I think Netflix is the reason Blockbusters and co went bust.

 

[spider-neil]

You can debate the quality, but the prequels brought in over 2.4 billion combined world wide and that was almost a decade since the last one came out.

All true but I don't know if the new movie is a lock to make a truck load of money. I mentioned the prequels to my fiance and she actually shuddered. I should have asked her if she is interested in seeing the new SW movie. I think it (success or failure) could go either way.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

AoU isn't a lock for a billion, it's a lock for 1.5 billion.

 

[InJustice]

Batman and Superman for the first time ever with the last 2 Batman movies making over a Billion. I'd say this movie is a lock for billion. I think even the GA with no interest in comic book movies will turn up to see this. It's historic. Just like when the GA with no interest in comic book movies turned up to watch Avengers because it was the first superhero movie mash up.

Iconography is not enough of a justification for the 1bil lock prediction. Audiences would have to like it and have found little to no problems in order for BvS to be locked for 1bil.

 

[Erzengel]

All true but I don't know if the new movie is a lock to make a truck load of money. I mentioned the prequels to my fiance and she actually shuddered. I should have asked her if she is interested in seeing the new SW movie. I think it (success or failure) could go either way.

Star Wars is a unique franchise on to itself. Think most people will see it just cause it is Star Wars. If the movie is actually stellar than the numbers just increase.

 

[Wildcard]

You are forgetting one thing...Zach Snyder.

That's your reasoning? Zack Snyder isn't a bad director at all & I loved MoS through & through so I don't see what you're getting at.

And again, I'd say the amount of movies some of you expect to reach a billion is insane. It's just not going to happen with most of them being released within the same year.

Truth be told, there's no such thing as a "lock" to make a billion. That comes down to how interested audiences are when it comes down to the release & if they actually want to get off their asses & get to a theater.

But it isn't ever guaranteed with any film no matter what it is.

 

[Bruce Malone]

AoU isn't a lock for a billion, it's a lock for 1.5 billion.

I wouldn't go so far and say a lock, I do think it will make more than a just around a billion flat though.

 

[thomass]

That's your reasoning? Zack Snyder isn't a bad director at all & I loved MoS through & through so I don't see what you're getting at.

And again, I'd say the amount of movies some of you expect to reach a billion is insane. It's just not going to happen with most of them being released within the same year.

Truth be told, there's no such thing as a "lock" to make a billion. That comes down to how interested audiences are when it comes down to the release & if they actually want to get off their asses & get to a theater.

But it isn't ever guaranteed with any film no matter what it is.

Yep exactly.

 

[chaseter]

That's your reasoning? Zack Snyder isn't a bad director at all & I loved MoS through & through so I don't see what you're getting at.

Congratulations???

Agree to disagree?

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

616 aside, which they have kind of done, do any of those really hold the box office potential? One of the major problems here is these films, if you are going to do them right, aren't cheap. Heck, $160m doesn't even get you that much mileage in this day and age on these types of films. Just look at some of the reaction to "hidden Godzilla".

Maybe I am wrong, but I don't feel like Sony is in the position to make "small gains", which is what those could produce at their very best imo. If Spidey proper is losing steam at the box office, what hope is there really for 2099 or Noir to turn it around?

I think if they are done right (it's Sony so we know how that goes) they could be an amazing spectacle. What I'm saying is have Pete the center of it all and he comes in and teams up with whoever to launch that part of the franchise. And then after a few movies you could have an Avengers like team up with all the Spider-Men. That would be something worth seeing IMO

 

[flickchick85]

That's your reasoning? Zack Snyder isn't a bad director at all & I loved MoS through & through so I don't see what you're getting at.

And yet a lot of people don't feel that way, which I think was his point. Zack Snyder is a director who's been very hit-and-miss, both in reception and box office. And when he "hits," it's never been anything colossal. His biggest runaway hit (that is, a movie that performed way ABOVE expectations) was 300, and those numbers are nothing compared to the ones being discussed now. Everything else he's made since then has disappointed on some level at the box office, and gotten mixed reactions from critics and audiences at best. Hell, his Superman movie - arguably the most recognizable superhero on the planet - got eclipsed globally at the box office by Captain America, a hero thought just a few years ago to be a B-level player. Snyder just doesn't hit with audiences the way Michael Bay (unfortunately) and Christopher Nolan have.

I'm not saying Batman/Superman can't make it to a billion. I'm just saying at this point, Snyder seems more like a hindrance than an asset to its ability to get there.

 

[InJustice]

And yet a lot of people don't feel that way, which I think was his point. Zack Snyder is a director who's been very hit-and-miss, both in reception and box office. And when he "hits," it's never been anything colossal. His biggest runaway hit (that is, a movie that performed way ABOVE expectations) was 300, and those numbers are nothing compared to the ones being discussed now. Everything else he's made since then has disappointed on some level at the box office, and gotten mixed reactions from critics and audiences at best. Hell, his Superman movie - arguably the most recognizable superhero on the planet - got eclipsed globally at the box office by Captain America, a hero thought just a few years ago to be a B-level player. Snyder just doesn't hit with audiences the way Michael Bay (unfortunately) and Christopher Nolan have.

I'm not saying Batman/Superman can't make it to a billion. I'm just saying at this point, Snyder seems more like a hindrance than an asset to its ability to get there.

And do you think audiences care about that detail? I think you're giving them too much credit for thinking that a director's name/ratings would turn the themselves (general audience) off from watching a movie. In spite of mixed ratings, Man of Steel still made 660+mil with added DVD/home video sales, which would suggest that audiences don't really care about ratings/director's name. Same goes for movies like Transformers, where it's been panned since its inception, but it still makes money.

 

[flickchick85]

And do you think audiences care about that detail? I think you're giving them too much credit for thinking that a director's name/ratings would turn the themselves (general audience) off from watching a movie. In spite of mixed ratings, Man of Steel still made 660+mil with added DVD/home video sales, which would suggest that audiences don't really care about ratings/director's name. Same goes for movies like Transformers, where it's been panned since its inception, but it still makes money.

My point wasn't that audiences care about the names, my point was their reception to his products. Snyder's style doesn't reap broad success the way those other directors do, and it's NOT the audiences going, "oh, it's that Snyder, better stay at home." It's them going, "I don't know if this looks like something I'll enjoy." OR after they've seen it, "eh, that could have been better. Probably won't see it again." His style doesn't have the broad appeal (or, one could argue, his movies don't deliver on their trailers' promise) to bring the kind of numbers that are generally expected of these characters. And yeah, MoS brought in $660m+, which was almost universally seen as a disappointing number at the time, since it didn't even beat that Spidey reboot which was ALSO seen as a slight financial disappointment. And now it's being eclipsed by Cap and possibly even freakin' X-Men (a series that's never been a major WW player). Sad day when those characters are competition for Superman. The bottom line is, if MoS had gotten a better response, it would have had better numbers. And for the record, I'm one who enjoyed MoS, so I'm not trying to bash it. But Cap had both the better film and the broader appeal, imo, so he deserved to beat MoS. And the ones to blame for that are Zack Snyder and David Goyer, for not making a Superman movie that more people could love. Snyder just doesn't make loveable movies, imo, and the evidence is in his track record: at the box office, with the audience's CinemaScore ratings, and with the critical reception.

Good thing for BvS is that it doesn't need to be loveable to make big numbers...but it would certainly help.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

I think a lot of people tend to overrate Superman's popularity. They confuse everyone knowing him with everyone liking him. The Batman/Superman sequel will make a ton because of the first cinematic team-up aspect of the two characters.

In terms of popularity across all platforms Superman doesn't touch Spider-Man or Batman in annual revenue.

I personally think BvS will make a billion, but I'm not expecting anything particularly great.