The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - User Review Thread! - SPOILERS! - Part 4

[Spider-Fan]

Agreed. I didn't have the strong feeling against the 'cringeworthy' stuff people cite in TASM2 like others. I enjoyed it, and hope Webb isn't spooked and carries it over for the third. I like to have colour in Spidey flicks, and the darkness and grit in Batman.

I love color in my Spider-Man as well. But not

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"I am RHINOOOOOOO!!!!" or dumb kids not staying in a crowd and having a stare down with the mechanized villain! Or Max talking to "Spidey" in his apartment...or singing Happy bday to himself...

I love color. But, my goodness.

 

[AnneFan]

I'd also like to add I love the way Webb uses songs during certain scenes/montages. It really drives the scene home I feel, gives it more emotion. In the first film the whole scene/montage with cold play while peter is skateboarding and slinging around on the chains. And in this film the Phillip Phillips song while he starts doing all that stuff in his room, going through his dad's stuff etc. Those scenes to me are just so damn awesome with the music.

Yep, I like that too. The tradition of Raindrops and Funky Soul lives on!

 

[Spider-Fan]

I guess it depends on the viewer. I haven't seen B&R since the one time I had the misfortune of it, and literally I got physically ill. Okay, maybe I was also suffering from a bout with sunstroke that day, but STILL, I recall it being a putrid film, exceeded in crapiness maybe only by the likes of Battlefield Earth. TASM2 has too many good aspects to it (Garfield and Stone, beautiful Spidey swinging, etc) to relegate it to amongst-worst-movies-ever-made status.

Hence why I am not putting it in the same league as Batman & Robin. That film is LEAGUES below most films. But, Batman Forever wasn't nearly as bad as even B&R was. I'd say that is a more comporable comparison. I'd agree, TASM2 is better. But, not by a lot.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Mysterio has many times tried to drive Spider-Man mad, so the concept isn't without merit. But, you NEED to keep the fishbowl. The banter between he and Mysterio is one of the best things about all of his stories. You need that classic design to some degree.

1. Speaking of which they used him as the one who rid the world of Wolverine in Old Man Logan. He made Logan think he was attacking and killing villains when in reality he was killing his friend and teammates.

2. Disagreed, but they need to keep his face and or head hidden

 

[Broseph44]

Man, the more I read these criticisms, the more I feel like everybody saw a different film than I did.

Seen it three times now and it just keeps getting better. I pretty much utterly disagree with every major complaint leveled at the film: Jumbled plot, the hyperbolic Schumacher comparisons, crappy Electro...I don't just disagree with it, I flat out don't understand it.

I'm right there with you dude 100%. And Annefan exactly I expect the quirky humor and fun because it's Spidey. And this film out of all the films we've gotten nailed Spidey/Peter I think. And Andrew just IS Spidey/Peter. Sorry Tobey. I just see Andrew and it's perfection.

 

[mclay18]

Oh, this film got VERY cringeworthy! Electro, Rhino, Kafka, etc. Plenty of cringeworthy scenes in this film. Granted, Batman Forever didn't have great moments and this film did. But, TASM2 is not in a different ballpark. Has better seats, same ballpark.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. 4/10 for me.

The superb final 15 minutes are what kept the film from being a total waste of movie. (Seriously, it was like Raimi stepping behind the camera or the producers finally letting Webb tell his own story.) The ending deserved a better movie, frankly.

But man oh man was the plot a mess. Suffers from the same problems BF and SM-3 did. (But even SM-3 had its moments where Raimi was able to transcend the numerous studio and producer mandates.) And why the hell did Sony go through the trouble of hiring Jamie Foxx if they're not going to let him be menacing? Electro wasn't funny and more importantly, wasn't menacing. That's the thing, hiring a freaking OSCAR WINNER and having him do a Richard Pryor impression... infuriating.

And I hated the world building. Felt very forced into the narrative... c'mon, Oscorp being the source for all of Spider-Man's villain roster? Can anyone spell contrived?

Webb did the best he could, but I think he had less input than Raimi did at this point. I hope Sony takes note and get a fresh set of writers for TASM3... and perhaps show Avi Arad the door? That guy's been nothing but trouble for the Spidey franchise.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

What exactly, is the big deal of Max singing happy birthday to himself? It wasn't some song and dance routine, he didn't dance around his apartment in a birthday hat singing to a Spidey cardboard cut-out or anything close to that. He sang it to himself like anybody would sing a song to themselve while at work alone. Where is the issue here? Seriously? I'm genuinely confused. It's like people take something utterly benign or mild and blow it entirely out of proportion.

 

[AnneFan]

I love color in my Spider-Man as well. But not

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"I am RHINOOOOOOO!!!!" or dumb kids not staying in a crowd and having a stare down with the mechanized villain! Or Max talking to "Spidey" in his apartment...or singing Happy bday to himself...

I love color. But, my goodness.

Didn't have a problem with any of it. There's more going on in this film, 'colour' aside. It's not all bull at a gate humour for the entire runtime. The positives far outweigh any niggles for me.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I agree with you wholeheartedly. 4/10 for me.

The superb final 15 minutes are what kept the film from being a total waste of movie. (Seriously, it was like Raimi stepping behind the camera or the producers finally letting Webb tell his own story.) The ending deserved a better movie, frankly.

But man oh man was the plot a mess. Suffers from the same problems BF and SM-3 did. (But even SM-3 had its moments where Raimi was able to transcend the numerous studio and producer mandates.) And why the hell did Sony go through the trouble of hiring Jamie Foxx if they're not going to let him be menacing? Electro wasn't funny and more importantly, wasn't menacing. That's the thing, hiring a freaking OSCAR WINNER and having him do a Richard Pryor impression... infuriating.

And I hated the world building. Felt very forced into the narrative... c'mon, Oscorp being the source for all of Spider-Man's villain roster? Can anyone spell contrived?

Webb did the best he could, but I think he had less input than Raimi did at this point. I hope Sony takes note and get a fresh set of writers for TASM3... and perhaps show Avi Arad the door? That guy's been nothing but trouble for the Spidey franchise.

That right there frustrates me more than anything else about the movie. They had a brilliant idea of where to take this film, and squandered it by trying to do too much, and several IMPORTANT plotlines in this film either were meaningless or just flat out sucked. The ending of this movie deserved to be in an ELITE Spider-Man film. Not the worst film of the series. I absolutely hate that the film's ending is 100% wasted and lost in the garbage.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Oh, this film got VERY cringeworthy! Electro, Rhino, Kafka, etc. Plenty of cringeworthy scenes in this film. Granted, Batman Forever didn't have great moments and this film did. But, TASM2 is not in a different ballpark. Has better seats, same ballpark.

I agree and disagree.

Max had one cringeworthy scene. Rhino had none imo as he is by nature a hammy goon and Kafka had only one cringeworthy scene.

So two cringeworthy scenes out of many makes this not close to even the cheese of Batman Forever, imo.

 

[AnneFan]

And Annefan exactly I expect the quirky humor and fun because it's Spidey.

 

[Broseph44]

What exactly, is the big deal of Max singing happy birthday to himself? It wasn't some song and dance routine, he didn't dance around his apartment in a birthday hat singing to a Spidey cardboard cut-out or anything close to that. He sang it to himself like anybody would sing a song to themselve while at work alone. Where is the issue here? Seriously? I'm genuinely confused. It's like people take something utterly benign or mild and blow it entirely out of proportion.

Yeah I don't see the problem with that either. And all the stuff with him and Spidey in his apartment was to show how crazy he is. Just like his vision in his head of him yelling and attacking Smythe. People keep sitting here saying how Electro wasn't this fleshed out character blah blah.

It's all right there set up for you. The guy has been bullied, picked on and forgotten pretty much his whole life one would assume. He's goofy looking. That doesn't help the bullying. And he's legit crazy, talking to himself and carrying a conversation with Spidey who isn't there. I do no get why people seem to ignore this.

Didn't have a problem with any of it. There's more going on in this film, 'colour' aside. It's not all bull at a gate humour for the entire runtime. The positives far outweigh any niggles for me.

Likewise had not one problem with any of those things.

 

[Spider-Fan]

What exactly, is the big deal of Max singing happy birthday to himself? It wasn't some song and dance routine, he didn't dance around his apartment in a birthday hat singing to a Spidey cardboard cut-out or anything close to that. He sang it to himself like anybody would sing a song to themselve while at work alone. Where is the issue here? Seriously? I'm genuinely confused. It's like people take something utterly benign or mild and blow it entirely out of proportion.

First, that entire plotline was poorly conceived. All his scenes are goofy and poorly written. He unnaturally narrates to himself all the time! I know I never really cared about his struggle. Yeah, guy had to work on his birthday. But, he was already creepy and off putting. No one feels bad for the creepy guy. The fact THIS was what led him down the path to evil is weak. They had a blank canvas basically to work with for Electro, and the plot they came up with was cliche, poorly written, and jarred the narrative to a signifcant extent.

Honestly, if they had not developed him at all and made him someone Norman Osborn experimented on before he died and used him as muscle (later maybe Harry teams up with him once he finds out about him), the movie would have been better. No poorly used screentime on him, and you could have further developed Harry's subplot and done more with Peter's interpersonal relationships and maybe given the dumb parents plot a better ending. Instead, Max Dillon sings happy birthday to himself in an awful scene, and no one cares. Not good use of the screen.

 

[mclay18]

That right there frustrates me more than anything else about the movie. They had a brilliant idea of where to take this film, and squandered it by trying to do too much, and several IMPORTANT plotlines in this film either were meaningless or just flat out sucked. The ending of this movie deserved to be in an ELITE Spider-Man film. Not the worst film of the series. I absolutely hate that the film's ending is 100% wasted and lost in the garbage.

I would say it rivals Raimi's Spider-Man 2 in terms of catharsis and getting audiences pumped for the next installment. It really does.

It's a shame the writers only bothered to get the ending right, but not the rest of the film. Orci, Kurtzman, and Pinkner need to be shown the door, as well as Avi Arad.

 

[SpideyK]

I didn't exactly love Electro. He was a little weird, but I didn't hate him.

His line at Times Square about "blowing out the candles", though... ಠ_ಠ

 

[Spider-Fan]

I agree and disagree.

Max had one cringeworthy scene. Rhino had none imo as he is by nature a hammy goon and Kafka had only one cringeworthy scene.

So two cringeworthy scenes out of many makes this not close to even the cheese of Batman Forever, imo.

Where we disagree is I cringed more than twice.

 

[Broseph44]

Geeze you really disliked this film haha

 

[Spider-Fan]

Geeze you really disliked this film haha

There is plenty I liked in the movie too, but what I disliked, I REALLY disliked! That is the problem.

 

[Broseph44]

There is plenty I liked in the movie too, but what I disliked, I REALLY disliked! That is the problem.

Sorry to hear that dude. All I know is I am already set to watch the **** out of this movie on blu ray.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Where we disagree is I cringed more than twice.

I didn't cringe. I shook my head in the, "I can't believe this crap" a good 7 or 8 times during this movie.

That right there frustrates me more than anything else about the movie. They had a brilliant idea of where to take this film, and squandered it by trying to do too much, and several IMPORTANT plotlines in this film either were meaningless or just flat out sucked. The ending of this movie deserved to be in an ELITE Spider-Man film. Not the worst film of the series. I absolutely hate that the film's ending is 100% wasted and lost in the garbage.

Outside of the unnecessary and boring prologue, this movie pretty much has the perfect Spidey book end with Gwen's speech. If you just watched the two confrontations with Rhino, while Rhino is horrible, it is pretty strong imo. Especially if you include the graduation and recorded speech moments. It is everything in between that falls hard. Like they forgot to make the actual movie.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I didn't cringe. I shook my head in the, "I can't believe this crap" a good 7 or 8 times during this movie.


Outside of the unnecessary and boring prologue, this movie pretty much has the perfect Spidey book end with Gwen's speech. If you just watched the two confrontations with Rhino, while Rhino is horrible, it is pretty strong imo. Especially if you include the graduation and recorded speech moments. It is everything in between that falls hard. Like they forgot to make the actual movie.

Agreed with everything you said. It's like they knew how to start and where they wanted to go, but they didn't know how to cleanly get there. Major shame.

 

[Feenix]

Fantastic movie. 8/10. I'll probably see it again and give it a 9/10 because I missed parts of this one.

Why you may ask? Because of the woman next to me who had her son on her lap and explained the whole movie to him loudly. Edit

And also because of the family next to her who let their daughter run up and down the stairs and talk loudly and laugh.

You know, there was an incident in the States where a guy went rage and shot someone in the movie theatre. He went overboard, but if I was allowed to without getting in trouble, I would have slapped those parents and forced them to take their kids outside of the theatre and ban them from it.

It's not the kid's fault, it's the parents' and I want those parents to be banned from taking their children to public places like movie theatres until they're old enough to shut the hell up.

Next time, I'm going to the 18+ theatre. It's way more expensive, but after having to deal with this BS for CA and Spiderman, I'm done with children.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Agreed with everything you said. It's like they knew how to start and where they wanted to go, but they didn't know how to cleanly get there. Major shame.

All the talk of how they had the script early. Never considering that it was still a very short turnaround even if they started writing the script at the start of 2012. Not mention they were tinkering throughout. Second, never considered who was writing. Talented screenwriters could have made this work. I don't feel they had that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Fantastic movie. 8/10. I'll probably see it again and give it a 9/10 because I missed parts of this one.

Why you may ask? Because of the woman next to me who had her son on her lap and explained the whole movie to him loudly in Spanish.

And also because of the family next to her who let their daughter run up and down the stairs and talk loudly and laugh.

You know, there was an incident in the States where a guy went rage and shot someone in the movie theatre. He went overboard, but if I was allowed to without getting in trouble, I would have slapped those parents and forced them to take their kids outside of the theatre and ban them from.

It's not the kid's fault, it's the parents' and I want those parents to be banned fr taking their children to public places like movie theatres.

Next time, I'm going to the 18+ theatre. It's way more expensive, but after having to deal with this BS for CA and Spiderman, I'm done with children.

Not only was this a promotion of violence against women, it was also potentially racist.

 

[grieven]

Fantastic movie. 8/10. I'll probably see it again and give it a 9/10 because I missed parts of this one.

Why you may ask? Because of the woman next to me who had her son on her lap and explained the whole movie to him loudly in Spanish.

And also because of the family next to her who let their daughter run up and down the stairs and talk loudly and laugh.

You know, there was an incident in the States where a guy went rage and shot someone in the movie theatre. He went overboard, but if I was allowed to without getting in trouble, I would have slapped those parents and forced them to take their kids outside of the theatre and ban them from.

It's not the kid's fault, it's the parents' and I want those parents to be banned fr taking their children to public places like movie theatres.

Next time, I'm going to the 18+ theatre. It's way more expensive, but after having to deal with this BS for CA and Spiderman, I'm done with children.

Sounds eerily like my experience. The lights went down and I was so excited, and then a family of 4 (father, mother, kid around 4 and infant) come strolling up the aisle - literally a baby in a stroller, and the mother with the infant sits right next to me. Needless to say they absolutely ruined it for me, i couldn't concentrate on a thing being said onscreen with the mother rocking the baby and hitting me in the process. The other kid was whining to go home through the 2nd half of the movie.

How the hell they got into the theater with a stroller and infant I don't know.

I feel your pain, brother, and am impressed you were able to give it an 8 given what you had to contend with!