Homecoming The Amazing Spider-Man 3 General Discussion - - - - - Part 14

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I think it's not that difficult to understand. Harry was going to die, he was desperate. He observed that the spider's venom could save him. It was risky, but he had nothing to lose, he was going to die!

Regarding Marc Webb, I think he's a talented guy. But the "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" script was written by four people! A mess. He did the best he could, and it was enough to make me love the movie.
 
He was going to die 40 years later like his father but by all means risk killing yourself now Harry...you were going to die anyways........when you are an old man.

Worst Spider-Man movie ever made.
 
I'll never understand how people can say TASM2 is worse than SM3. I get that it's all a matter of opinion, but stuff like that seems like crazy talk to me.
 
Guys, I think I have bipolar disorder... going to see a doctor Friday..
 
I'll never understand how people can say TASM2 is worse than SM3. I get that it's all a matter of opinion, but stuff like that seems like crazy talk to me.

they're about even but I think hearing this gives the edge to TASM2 being the worst spidey movie ever, a lifetime supply of cringe right there.

 
He was going to die 40 years later like his father but by all means risk killing yourself now Harry...you were going to die anyways........when you are an old man.

Worst Spider-Man movie ever made.
The only reason Norman stayed alive as long as he did, was because he was experimenting on himself and preserving his life. (hence the claws)

Harry didn't want to go through the same process.
 
The whole argument of him being out of his mind disregards one element of his disease: "it comes and goes."

Was Harry so out of his mind, that even after he had killed Gwen and got his revenge from Peter ("You took away my hope...now I'm going to take away yours!"), after the dust had settled and he was sitting with Fiers at the end of the film, that he's now going to form an entire group of vigilantes dedicated to killing him? Really? That shouldn't strike as a weak basis of wanting to kill someone to only a minority of fans.

Also, he was just so out of his mind that he couldn't put two and two together and realize that his best friend was trying to save his life, yet he learned, in a matter of minutes, how to ride his glider and make his way to the power plant?

Even when I went to see TASM2 with my cousin, my aunt (a very average movie goer) specifically pointed this out. I've also read this complaint on a countless number of posts, reviews, and websites. That should be a major concern, in my opinion. That shows that either a movie isn't doing a good job of explaining something, or perhaps it's far too elaborate for some people to understand. In this case, I think it's the former.



Norman points out to Harry that he had so much "potential" in the beginning of the film. That causes the audience to assume that Harry is probably an intelligent individual who has done little to benefit from his intelligence, or made the wrong choices in his life altogether. Given that, he seemed capable enough to understand that his best friend, supposedly a genius at science (I would probably take his advice, no?) is warning him of the possible drawbacks of attaining Spidey's blood. Additionally, as I said "two and two together" above, he didn't realize he had more time to live, considering his own father seemed to live a pretty decent length of time?

But no, he was so devastated by the fact that his best friend was actually a superhero that was trying to save his life, that he not only killed the love of that friend's life, but he's now going to form a team to kill him, too.

If I'm trying to look at it from Harry's perspective, it really isn't that difficult to grasp - especially if you're observing the situation prior to his transformation to Goblin. There wasn't anything that justified him taking such abrupt steps and completely disregarding the opinion of the guy we're supposed to believe is all he had, and has been his best bud from the time they were kids.

If you try to analyze Harry rationally, the only conclusion you arrive at is that the character was just dumb from the start.

With great power comes great posts :up:

The only reason Norman stayed alive as long as he did, was because he was experimenting on himself and preserving his life. (hence the claws)

Harry didn't want to go through the same process.

Yeah Harry thought looking like this was a much better alternative to having claws:

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Makes perfect sense ;)
 
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The whole argument of him being out of his mind disregards one element of his disease: "it comes and goes."

Was Harry so out of his mind, that even after he had killed Gwen and got his revenge from Peter ("You took away my hope...now I'm going to take away yours!"), after the dust had settled and he was sitting with Fiers at the end of the film, that he's now going to form an entire group of vigilantes dedicated to killing him? Really? That shouldn't strike as a weak basis of wanting to kill someone to only a minority of fans.

Also, he was just so out of his mind that he couldn't put two and two together and realize that his best friend was trying to save his life, yet he learned, in a matter of minutes, how to ride his glider and make his way to the power plant?

Even when I went to see TASM2 with my cousin, my aunt (a very average movie goer) specifically pointed this out. I've also read this complaint on a countless number of posts, reviews, and websites. That should be a major concern, in my opinion. That shows that either a movie isn't doing a good job of explaining something, or perhaps it's far too elaborate for some people to understand. In this case, I think it's the former.



Norman points out to Harry that he had so much "potential" in the beginning of the film. That causes the audience to assume that Harry is probably an intelligent individual who has done little to benefit from his intelligence, or made the wrong choices in his life altogether. Given that, he seemed capable enough to understand that his best friend, supposedly a genius at science (I would probably take his advice, no?) is warning him of the possible drawbacks of attaining Spidey's blood. Additionally, as I said "two and two together" above, he didn't realize he had more time to live, considering his own father seemed to live a pretty decent length of time?

But no, he was so devastated by the fact that his best friend was actually a superhero that was trying to save his life, that he not only killed the love of that friend's life, but he's now going to form a team to kill him, too.

If I'm trying to look at it from Harry's perspective, it really isn't that difficult to grasp - especially if you're observing the situation prior to his transformation to Goblin. There wasn't anything that justified him taking such abrupt steps and completely disregarding the opinion of the guy we're supposed to believe is all he had, and has been his best bud from the time they were kids.

If you try to analyze Harry rationally, the only conclusion you arrive at is that the character was just dumb from the start.

Great post man!
 
Well, we don't know if it's for Spidey. The whole point of the scene was to be ambiguous... to tease.

Y'know, for that Sinister Six movie? People would then see that to find out why the heck they're putting the team together.

But doing that is like if at the end of The Dark Knight, we see Dent alive and lived through the fall saying "I want revenge on Batman" especially when Batman retired after that night and forming a group and letting Scarecrow out.

And to add if it's not for Spider-Man....

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It's clear Harry hates Spidey more than anyone. He wants his blood. Why would he attack someone over attacking the person who could cure him?

Both ASM movies felt like 2 hour long trailers for the next one. Especially ASM 2.

So like the MCU films?

WAKA WAKA

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Guys, I think I have bipolar disorder... going to see a doctor Friday..
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they're about even but I think hearing this gives the edge to TASM2 being the worst spidey movie ever, a lifetime supply of cringe right there.

I'll never understand the hate for this, I absolutely love this score. I thought it fit perfectly.
 
Sony should just go full out f**k everyone mode, make TASM3 a musical with the entire soundtrack made by pharell williams

I bet Avi Arad would like that idea, being the progressive and 'hip' guy he thinks he is.
 
I've said for weeks. Do a film adaption of Spider-Man Turn of the Dark.

It'll be a hit I tell ya!
 
He was going to die 40 years later like his father but by all means risk killing yourself now Harry...you were going to die anyways........when you are an old man.

Worst Spider-Man movie ever made.

"Hey Peter, I'm dying."

"Harry, you know we are ALL dying, right?"
 
they could even have peter experiment with his sexuality just like Garfield wanted

Just gather up all the ideas that would get people mad and throw them all into one movie.

We could even have an live action adaptation of Trouble, except JJ Jameson is peter's biological father.

Hire me, Avi. You know its the right thing to do.
 
Sony really needs to let it go.

Like maybe they can strike a deal with Disney and do a Spider-Man/Frozen crossover. Who ever said that Spidey needs to be in the MCU? :o
 
heres the plan: we map out a trilogy revolving around Peter's parents, Ben and May, and once that trilogy ends we finally make the jump to Peter as Spider-Man!

Only for him to die in the first 5 minutes of the movie, and Miles Morales takes over without any character development or explanation.

Think of all the Uncle Ben and Aunt May action figures we'd sell, Avi.

also the soundtrack for each movie will be done by Justin Bieber and Iggy Azalea. Genius, I know.
 
heres the plan: we map out a trilogy revolving around Peter's parents, Ben and May, and once that trilogy ends we finally make the jump to Peter as Spider-Man!

Only for him to die in the first 5 minutes of the movie, and Miles Morales takes over without any character development or explanation.

Think of all the Uncle Ben and Aunt May action figures we'd sell, Avi.

Let's do a twist from the comics.

May ****s Richard Parker and is Peter's actually mother, gives Peter to Richard and Mary to raise him.
 
It's funny how Harry's disease only starts affecting him once Norman tells him he has it.
 
I want to see the Vulturess concept art from SM4, if there is any
 
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