Homecoming The Amazing Spider-Man 3 General Discussion - Part 3

[ThatSpiderGuy]

On twitter i searched "andrew garfield" and already found a bunch of tweets about how cutting him from spiderman would be terrible, and plus theres a HUGE amount of fans that just love Andrew in general. And this is only coming from the people i follow, not the whole twitter-base

 

[Andrew Lucas]

SO POST IT!



Yeah that's what I've been saying. Everyone in the world hates these movies. I mean you can see that in every one of my posts. Why don't you go and link one for proof?

Your reading comprehension skills are as bad as your ill informed opinions.



Really who am I trying to shut up? I am asking for something and getting nothing back except hearsay claims that something which I know doesn't exist does.



Why don't you help me do that and at the same time validate your argument, and post the proof?



I never said that. Is bad reading skills a common affliction with TASM fans?

I said only fanboys would get seriously upset if he was replaced. Like the looney tunes reactions you were getting on Tumblr about never watching a Spider-Man movie again if he is replaced.

Not once did I say nobody likes him or cares about him, or the whole world hates him or these movies. I challenge either one of you hyperbolic exaggerators to link one single post of mine where I said that.

Go ahead.



THANK YOU. So someone else here can read properly then.

Don't twist things, you said that only fanboys will miss his recasting, what says that most of the General Audiences are fanboys.

Everybody at some extent is affected, I was when Tobey was announced to no longer be part of the Spider-Man franchise, and I was like, 12 years old?

I'm asking for a prof that shows that the audience and not geeks would be totally okay with such action and that they don't care for Andrew. You haven't given one yet.

Okay, how many pics do you want? Just to prof that non comic book fans likes him. One million? Just don't exaggerate lol.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Its not everyone from twitter, its just from the people that i follow.
And im using the ipad app, so theres no address bar to copy and paste from

That's ok. We were already told about this last night by someone who said they were all saying things like they would not watch Spidey movies ever again if there was no more Andrew.

They are fanboy types. You don't take them seriously because they always saying crazy dramatic things like that, and they don't even mean it because they will be there on opening day for any new Spider-Man movies whether Andrew is in them or not lol.

 

[SymbioteSeb]

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/spi...piderman-tobey-maguire-or-andrew-garf-739115/
Here's some proof.
Half of this thread is already supporting Garfield

 

[Frodo]

I've lived through several different Bonds, Batmans, Supermans, and now Spidermans , and I've heard the same thing everytime from fans. You can't replace Brosnan, You can't replace Keaton, etc.

Fanboys and the GA do develop emotional attachments to certain actors and versions of franchises, but GA are alot more open to giving new actors a shot , like it or not. I've seen it happen plenty of times before.

Now whether the actor delivers or not or is accepted by the GA is a separate issue. Whether Sony fumbles again and miscasts the role remains to be seen.

The reality of the situation is Sony is gonna do what they wanna do , and I don't think the fanboys are gonna have much of a say on this one. If they replace the actor I don't doubt they'll be a fair amount of flaming, nerd rage, and calls for a boycott , but Sony will do it despite how upset fans are. I've seen studios do it before , and if anything , a little controversy means interest
in the whos who of casting and the next film.

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/spi...piderman-tobey-maguire-or-andrew-garf-739115/
Here's some proof.
Half of this thread is already supporting Garfield

That's not helping if only half are supporting. Then you got half not supporting.

 

[SymbioteSeb]

That's not helping if only half are supporting. Then you got half not supporting.

I meant more than half.
And that tobey fanboy(sethysquare) is acting ridiculous......

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

This has always been a half supported franchise. This franchise needed a quality increase with the sequel and that didn't happen thus Sony is in trouble.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

That's not helping if only half are supporting. Then you got half not supporting.

It's also from Comicvine which is a website for comic fanboys lol.

 

[Erzengel]

371 posts on a thread that's older than TASM2.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Getting rid of Andrew Garfield in Spider-Man is like getting rid of Martin Freeman in The Hobbit.

I disagree. Not that I think Freeman is irreplaceable, but because the environment is completely different.

The Hobbit is one movie, filmed together, and split into three parts. Recasting Freeman partway through would be like having Garfield play Spidey for most of TASM2 and then bringing in somebody else for the third act.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

It's also from Comicvine which is a website for comic fanboys lol.

SHH is no different

 

[Doctor Octopus]

SHH is no different

That's why nobody is using you few guys as proof of anything lol.

 

[Airnick]

I disagree. Not that I think Freeman is irreplaceable, but because the environment is completely different.

The Hobbit is one movie, filmed together, and split into three parts. Recasting Freeman partway through would be like having Garfield play Spidey for most of TASM2 and then bringing in somebody else for the third act.

Solid point.

 

[ThatSpiderGuy]

That's ok. We were already told about this last night by someone who said they were all saying things like they would not watch Spidey movies ever again if there was no more Andrew.

They are fanboy types. You don't take them seriously because they always saying crazy dramatic things like that, and they don't even mean it because they will be there on opening day for any new Spider-Man movies whether Andrew is in them or not lol.

What im getting from this is that people who want Andrew to stay are fanboys.......
The tweets im seeing arent dramatic.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

That's why nobody is using you few guys as proof of anything lol.

Countless of posters already said that Andrew's recasting would have a bad effect, like the past Spider-Man did. But if you want to believe that it won't, where is everywhere,there's nothing to do.

 

[The Joker]

Don't twist things, you said that only fanboys will miss his recasting, what says that most of the General Audiences are fanboys.

Totally untrue. Miles said this;

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=29861499&postcount=851

I responded with this;

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=29861523&postcount=854

Then this;

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=29861589&postcount=862

And thus escalated the whole asking for proof that Garfield has defined Spider-Man for the consensus, because so far I only see fanboys saying this, and not being able to provide any proof.

I never denied there was any support for Garfield or that nobody liked him. I said so plain as day;

'You're reading fanboys and their hysterical over reactions. I'm sure there is some sane rational genuine support for him to stay, but you can bet at the same time these people are not saying 'Well I am done with Spider-Man movies if he doesn't come back' or any other OTT bull dust like that. '

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=29861705&postcount=880

I'm asking for a prof that shows that the audience and not geeks would be totally okay with such action and that they don't care for Andrew. You haven't given one yet.

That's because that is not what I have been saying for the millionth time. I said only fanboys would get seriously upset if he was replaced, the audience wouldn't be affected. They'd accept a new Spider-Man as long as he's good and the movies are good.

I also said the general consensus does not see Garfield as irreplaceable or the definitive Spidey like the way they see Jackman and RDJ defined their roles.

Okay, how many pics do you want? Just to prof that non comic book fans likes him. One million? Just don't exaggerate lol.

Andrew, when you can find me a post where I said non comic book fans don't like him, then you can post pics.

Happy hunting.

 

[SymbioteSeb]

https://***********/search?q=andrew is spider-man&src=typd
Tweets from the general audience

 

[ThatSpiderGuy]

I disagree. Not that I think Freeman is irreplaceable, but because the environment is completely different.

The Hobbit is one movie, filmed together, and split into three parts. Recasting Freeman partway through would be like having Garfield play Spidey for most of TASM2 and then bringing in somebody else for the third act.

I was talking about acting wise and likeability XD
Oh well, here we go with the opinion arguement..... :/

 

[Nemeres]

This is a breakthrough, an actual admission that people did like Maguire in the role.

Lol, you're way off. My opinion, in a nutshell: the 1st two Raimi films rule, both Webb films are nothing stellar. But it would be stupid to deny Garfield his credit just because I'm team Raimi. He's an asset for the franchise and dumping him would be counterproductive. End.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

What im getting from this is that people who want Andrew to stay are fanboys.......
The tweets im seeing arent dramatic.

They are not the ones I mean. I mean the ones that are acting like it's the end of the franchise if he leaves. The ones who want him to stay won't give up on the movies if they replace him.

That's what we mean. He is not irreplaceable. Only fanboys think so. They are minorities.

Countless of posters already said that Andrew's recasting would have a bad effect, like the past Spider-Man did. But if you want to believe that it won't, where is everywhere,there's nothing to do.

Those posters are wrong Andrew. Recasting was not reason why there was bad effect. It was because TASM was not very good, and they copied Batman movies tones, and the villain was weak, and lots of other problems.

 

[Frodo]

This has always been a half supported franchise. This franchise needed a quality increase with the sequel and that didn't happen thus Sony is in trouble.

That's true. This reboot has always been divisive in terms of the fans at least. Maybe it always will be , I dunno. It may take a fresh take with no baggage to either version before you have a Spiderman that everyone or at least a majority support and are excited about.

At the very least the Raimi/Webb films have basically given a pretty comprehensive summary of the past 50 years of Spiderman .We've had the Origin, The Goblin saga, his two great loves, his supporting cast ,The alien costume and Venom sagas, the Ultimate Spiderman line, his greatest foes, etc.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I was talking about acting wise and likeability XD
Oh well, here we go with the opinion arguement..... :/

The two situations are not comparable. Apples and oranges.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Lol, you're way off. My opinion, in a nutshell: the 1st two Raimi films rule, both Webb films are nothing stellar. But it would be stupid to deny Garfield his credit just because I'm team Raimi. He's an asset for the franchise and dumping him would be counterproductive. End.

Dammit I thought I had one. Oh well.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

Jokey,

That's nothing but a hive of comic book fanboys. Just like the ones here arguing this utter nonsense that he can't be replaced or it will really hurt the series if he is.

You quoted them there yourself; "I won't see another Spidey movie if Andrew isn't in it". Classic hysterical cries of over emotional fanboys who have their rose tinted glasses on so tightly they can't see the wood for the trees.

Again, just fanboys.When those reactions came from "normal" people.

Because only fanboys would say hysterical rubbish like they would never watch another Spider-Man movie if Garfield got replaced.

Just fanboys.

You're reading fanboys and their hysterical over reactions. I'm sure there is some sane rational genuine support for him to stay, but you can bet at the same time these people are not saying 'Well I am done with Spider-Man movies if he doesn't come back' or any other OTT bull dust like that.

Fanboys. Did you stopped to think that, maybe these people that won't watch the future movies(which is overreaction), it's because they love him?Just like with the first Bond? That's what Miles is trying to say, people care about him, not only comic book fans.

Only fans who are too absorbed in their fan love for Garfield are under that false delusion

Again, just the fans. There is this woman that I used to talk on another forum and that she basically never was a Spider-Man, but now she loved both movies and even said that ASM2 is the most flawed. She read every single Comic Book of Spider-Man since then.

See? Andrew not only brought us the better Spider-Man but actually brought new fans to the web head mythology. If he did that with someone that wasn't a fan...yeah, just fanboys are going to miss him when the inevitable comes.


I'm gonna eat some pie, don't worry about the "prof"


EDIT: Oh wait..Seb already posted.